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I_brake_for_gnomes #1 Posted Aug 18 2017 - 18:06

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First of all, I am not a employee of wargamming so I can not confirm or deny that future release of a Polish tech tree. What this posting is all about is to inform everyone what kind of polish tanks there was so you know what they are all about. Most of my knowledge is on pre-war Polish tanks gleaned from many resources including books.

 

So why do I think that a Polish tech tree is coming out? From all of the signs, including the release of a Polish premium tank, it is pretty obvious that Wargamming is doing what they did in the past with the rollouts of the Czech and Swedish tech trees. The only big question in my mind is whether there are going to be any new Polish maps or not. The release of the Swedish tank tree was also to have a new Swedish map along with it but that didn't happen.

 

So on to the Polish tanks... and keep in mind that if I list that a tank was a prototype then the tank was actually built and tested.

LIGHT TANKS

4TP prototype produced; Gun: 20mm wz.38; Max Speed: 55kph; Hull: 17/13/13; Turret: 13/13/13

7TP 143 tanks produced; Gun: twin 7.92mm CKm wz.30 or a 37mm Bofors wz.37; Max Speed: 37kph; Hull: 17/17/9; Turret: 15/15/15

9TP 13 tanks produced; this is an upgraded 7TP light tank

PZInz 130 prototype produced; Gun: 20mm wz.28 AA; Max Speed: 60kph; Hull: 8/8/8; Turret: 8/8/8; amphibious light tank

BWP-1 1,409 tanks acquired from the Soviets; this is the Polish equivalent of the Soviet BMP-1

Carden-Lloyd 11 tanks acquired from the British; this is a tankette

Hotchkiss H-39 3 tanks acquired from the French in 1939 for evaluation

Matilda I 18 tanks used by the Polish in Scotland for training

PT-76 30 tanks acquired from the Soviets

Renault FT 150 tanks of various models acquired from the French including some being built in Poland, called the FT CWS

Renault NC-1 24 tanks acquired from the French

Renault R-35 50 tanks acquired from the French in 1939

T-70 53 tanks acquired from the Soviets and used from July 1943 to January 1945

TK 710 of various types were built; Gun: 7.92mm CKm wz.25, 20mm FK-A wz.38, 37mm Bofors wz.36, 47mm wz.25; Max Speed: 46kph; Hull: 10/10/10

Vickers 6-tonowy 38 tanks acquired from the British; Gun: twin 7.92mm CKm wz.30, 47mm British QFSA; Max Speed: 35kph; Hull: 13/13/8; Turret: 13/13/13

 

MEDIUM TANKS

10TP prototype produced; Gun: 37mm wz.36; Max Speed: 56kph; Hull: 20/20/20; Turret: 16/16/16

14TP prototype produced; Gun: 37mm wz.37; Max Speed: 50kph; Armor is from 35mm to 50mm

20/25TP prototype produced; Gun: 75mm wz.22/24; Max Speed: 45kph; Armor is from 35mm to 80mm

M4, M4A1, M4A1(76)W, M4A2, M4A3(105), M4A4 main tank used by the Free Polish Army on the Western Front during WW2

PzKpfw IIIG 3 tanks captured and used in North Africa as training tanks

PzKpfw IVH 1 tank captured and used against the Germans in 1944 during the Italian campaign

T-34/76C, T-34/76E 71 tanks acquired from the Soviets

T-34/85 unknown number of tanks acquired from the Soviets

T-34/85M unknown number of T-34/85 tanks that the Poland upgraded in their factories

T-54, T-54A, T-54AD, T-54AM 3,000 tanks were produced in Poland between 1956 and 1964

T-55, T-55L, T-55AD-1, T-55AD-2 7,000 tanks were produced in Poland between 1964 and 1979

Cromwell, Crusader unknown number of British tanks that the Free Polish Army used on the Western Front during WW2

Sherman I, Sherman IC unknown number of British tanks that the Free Polish Army used on the Western Front during WW2

 

HEAVY TANKS

IS-2 71 tanks acquired and used by the Polish Army on the Eastern Front during WW2

IS-3 2 tanks acquired and used by the Polish Army on the Eastern Front during WW2

Churchill unknown number of British tanks that the Free Polish Army used on the Western Front during WW2

 

TANK DESTROYERS

PZInz 160 prototype produced; Gun: 37mm wz.36; Max Sped: 50 kph; Armor is unknown

TKD 4 tanks produced; Gun: 47mm wz.25; Max Speed: 42kph; Hull: 6/6/6

ASU-57 100 tanks acquired from the Soviets in 1962

ASU-85 31 tanks acquired from the Soviets in 1966

ISU-122 22 tanks acquired from the Soviets

ISU-152 10 tanks acquired from the Soviets

M10 GMC unknown number acquired from the Americans and used by the Free Polish Army

SU-76 the main Polish tank destroyer used on the Eastern Front

SU-85 2 tanks acquired from the Soviets

SU-100 2 tanks acquired from the Soviets

SU-152 3 tanks acquired from the Soviets

Archer used by the 2nd Polish Corps in 1944

 

SPG

AHS Krab 28 tanks built: Gun: 155mm; Max Speed: 60kph; Armor is unknown

2S1 Gvozdika 324 tanks acquired from the Soviets

2S7 Pion 8 tanks acquired from the Soviets in 1985

 

I found this interesting concept for a Polish tank tech tree here -> http://polishtreefor...host24.com/?i=1

 

That's what I have for Poland and I am sure that I am missing some tanks especially the paper project tanks. BTW, if this tech tree ever comes out than the Soviet Rudy tank needs to move over to the Polish tech tree. That's because the tank is based after a popular Polish television show about Polish tankers during WW2. -> https://en.wikipedia...pancerni_i_pies

 

I hope you guys enjoy this look at Polish tanks. Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 



CynicalDutchie #2 Posted Aug 18 2017 - 18:07

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There is no Polish tree currently in the works for WoT.

AndrewSledge #3 Posted Aug 18 2017 - 18:20

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Whatever they release, there will be 2 or 3 decent tanks, and the rest will be crap.

MrJamez #4 Posted Aug 18 2017 - 19:59

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View PostI_brake_for_gnomes, on Aug 18 2017 - 17:06, said:

First of all, I am not a employee of wargamming so I can not confirm or deny that future release of a Polish tech tree. What this posting is all about is to inform everyone what kind of polish tanks there was so you know what they are all about. Most of my knowledge is on pre-war Polish tanks gleaned from many resources including books.

 

So why do I think that a Polish tech tree is coming out? From all of the signs, including the release of a Polish premium tank, it is pretty obvious that Wargamming is doing what they did in the past with the rollouts of the Czech and Swedish tech trees. The only big question in my mind is whether there are going to be any new Polish maps or not. The release of the Swedish tank tree was also to have a new Swedish map along with it but that didn't happen.

 

So on to the Polish tanks... and keep in mind that if I list that a tank was a prototype then the tank was actually built and tested.

LIGHT TANKS

4TP prototype produced; Gun: 20mm wz.38; Max Speed: 55kph; Hull: 17/13/13; Turret: 13/13/13

7TP 143 tanks produced; Gun: twin 7.92mm CKm wz.30 or a 37mm Bofors wz.37; Max Speed: 37kph; Hull: 17/17/9; Turret: 15/15/15

9TP 13 tanks produced; this is an upgraded 7TP light tank

PZInz 130 prototype produced; Gun: 20mm wz.28 AA; Max Speed: 60kph; Hull: 8/8/8; Turret: 8/8/8; amphibious light tank

BWP-1 1,409 tanks acquired from the Soviets; this is the Polish equivalent of the Soviet BMP-1

Carden-Lloyd 11 tanks acquired from the British; this is a tankette

Hotchkiss H-39 3 tanks acquired from the French in 1939 for evaluation

Matilda I 18 tanks used by the Polish in Scotland for training

PT-76 30 tanks acquired from the Soviets

Renault FT 150 tanks of various models acquired from the French including some being built in Poland, called the FT CWS

Renault NC-1 24 tanks acquired from the French

Renault R-35 50 tanks acquired from the French in 1939

T-70 53 tanks acquired from the Soviets and used from July 1943 to January 1945

TK 710 of various types were built; Gun: 7.92mm CKm wz.25, 20mm FK-A wz.38, 37mm Bofors wz.36, 47mm wz.25; Max Speed: 46kph; Hull: 10/10/10

Vickers 6-tonowy 38 tanks acquired from the British; Gun: twin 7.92mm CKm wz.30, 47mm British QFSA; Max Speed: 35kph; Hull: 13/13/8; Turret: 13/13/13

 

MEDIUM TANKS

10TP prototype produced; Gun: 37mm wz.36; Max Speed: 56kph; Hull: 20/20/20; Turret: 16/16/16

14TP prototype produced; Gun: 37mm wz.37; Max Speed: 50kph; Armor is from 35mm to 50mm

20/25TP prototype produced; Gun: 75mm wz.22/24; Max Speed: 45kph; Armor is from 35mm to 80mm

M4, M4A1, M4A1(76)W, M4A2, M4A3(105), M4A4 main tank used by the Free Polish Army on the Western Front during WW2

PzKpfw IIIG 3 tanks captured and used in North Africa as training tanks

PzKpfw IVH 1 tank captured and used against the Germans in 1944 during the Italian campaign

T-34/76C, T-34/76E 71 tanks acquired from the Soviets

T-34/85 unknown number of tanks acquired from the Soviets

T-34/85M unknown number of T-34/85 tanks that the Poland upgraded in their factories

T-54, T-54A, T-54AD, T-54AM 3,000 tanks were produced in Poland between 1956 and 1964

T-55, T-55L, T-55AD-1, T-55AD-2 7,000 tanks were produced in Poland between 1964 and 1979

Cromwell, Crusader unknown number of British tanks that the Free Polish Army used on the Western Front during WW2

Sherman I, Sherman IC unknown number of British tanks that the Free Polish Army used on the Western Front during WW2

 

HEAVY TANKS

IS-2 71 tanks acquired and used by the Polish Army on the Eastern Front during WW2

IS-3 2 tanks acquired and used by the Polish Army on the Eastern Front during WW2

Churchill unknown number of British tanks that the Free Polish Army used on the Western Front during WW2

 

TANK DESTROYERS

PZInz 160 prototype produced; Gun: 37mm wz.36; Max Sped: 50 kph; Armor is unknown

TKD 4 tanks produced; Gun: 47mm wz.25; Max Speed: 42kph; Hull: 6/6/6

ASU-57 100 tanks acquired from the Soviets in 1962

ASU-85 31 tanks acquired from the Soviets in 1966

ISU-122 22 tanks acquired from the Soviets

ISU-152 10 tanks acquired from the Soviets

M10 GMC unknown number acquired from the Americans and used by the Free Polish Army

SU-76 the main Polish tank destroyer used on the Eastern Front

SU-85 2 tanks acquired from the Soviets

SU-100 2 tanks acquired from the Soviets

SU-152 3 tanks acquired from the Soviets

Archer used by the 2nd Polish Corps in 1944

 

SPG

AHS Krab 28 tanks built: Gun: 155mm; Max Speed: 60kph; Armor is unknown

2S1 Gvozdika 324 tanks acquired from the Soviets

2S7 Pion 8 tanks acquired from the Soviets in 1985

 

I found this interesting concept for a Polish tank tech tree here -> http://polishtreefor...host24.com/?i=1

 

That's what I have for Poland and I am sure that I am missing some tanks especially the paper project tanks. BTW, if this tech tree ever comes out than the Soviet Rudy tank needs to move over to the Polish tech tree. That's because the tank is based after a popular Polish television show about Polish tankers during WW2. -> https://en.wikipedia...pancerni_i_pies

 

I hope you guys enjoy this look at Polish tanks. Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

An interesting read, I am always up for the possibility of a new tech tree. I would hope for even more tech trees to come, hopefully with unique characteristics.

nicodeimous #5 Posted Aug 22 2017 - 16:28

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View PostI_brake_for_gnomes, on Aug 18 2017 - 12:06, said:

First of all, I am not a employee of wargamming so I can not confirm or deny that future release of a Polish tech tree. What this posting is all about is to inform everyone what kind of polish tanks there was so you know what they are all about. Most of my knowledge is on pre-war Polish tanks gleaned from many resources including books.

 

So why do I think that a Polish tech tree is coming out? From all of the signs, including the release of a Polish premium tank, it is pretty obvious that Wargamming is doing what they did in the past with the rollouts of the Czech and Swedish tech trees. The only big question in my mind is whether there are going to be any new Polish maps or not. The release of the Swedish tank tree was also to have a new Swedish map along with it but that didn't happen.

 

So on to the Polish tanks... and keep in mind that if I list that a tank was a prototype then the tank was actually built and tested.

LIGHT TANKS

4TP prototype produced; Gun: 20mm wz.38; Max Speed: 55kph; Hull: 17/13/13; Turret: 13/13/13

7TP 143 tanks produced; Gun: twin 7.92mm CKm wz.30 or a 37mm Bofors wz.37; Max Speed: 37kph; Hull: 17/17/9; Turret: 15/15/15

9TP 13 tanks produced; this is an upgraded 7TP light tank

PZInz 130 prototype produced; Gun: 20mm wz.28 AA; Max Speed: 60kph; Hull: 8/8/8; Turret: 8/8/8; amphibious light tank

BWP-1 1,409 tanks acquired from the Soviets; this is the Polish equivalent of the Soviet BMP-1

Carden-Lloyd 11 tanks acquired from the British; this is a tankette

Hotchkiss H-39 3 tanks acquired from the French in 1939 for evaluation

Matilda I 18 tanks used by the Polish in Scotland for training

PT-76 30 tanks acquired from the Soviets

Renault FT 150 tanks of various models acquired from the French including some being built in Poland, called the FT CWS

Renault NC-1 24 tanks acquired from the French

Renault R-35 50 tanks acquired from the French in 1939

T-70 53 tanks acquired from the Soviets and used from July 1943 to January 1945

TK 710 of various types were built; Gun: 7.92mm CKm wz.25, 20mm FK-A wz.38, 37mm Bofors wz.36, 47mm wz.25; Max Speed: 46kph; Hull: 10/10/10

Vickers 6-tonowy 38 tanks acquired from the British; Gun: twin 7.92mm CKm wz.30, 47mm British QFSA; Max Speed: 35kph; Hull: 13/13/8; Turret: 13/13/13

 

MEDIUM TANKS

10TP prototype produced; Gun: 37mm wz.36; Max Speed: 56kph; Hull: 20/20/20; Turret: 16/16/16

14TP prototype produced; Gun: 37mm wz.37; Max Speed: 50kph; Armor is from 35mm to 50mm

20/25TP prototype produced; Gun: 75mm wz.22/24; Max Speed: 45kph; Armor is from 35mm to 80mm

M4, M4A1, M4A1(76)W, M4A2, M4A3(105), M4A4 main tank used by the Free Polish Army on the Western Front during WW2

PzKpfw IIIG 3 tanks captured and used in North Africa as training tanks

PzKpfw IVH 1 tank captured and used against the Germans in 1944 during the Italian campaign

T-34/76C, T-34/76E 71 tanks acquired from the Soviets

T-34/85 unknown number of tanks acquired from the Soviets

T-34/85M unknown number of T-34/85 tanks that the Poland upgraded in their factories

T-54, T-54A, T-54AD, T-54AM 3,000 tanks were produced in Poland between 1956 and 1964

T-55, T-55L, T-55AD-1, T-55AD-2 7,000 tanks were produced in Poland between 1964 and 1979

Cromwell, Crusader unknown number of British tanks that the Free Polish Army used on the Western Front during WW2

Sherman I, Sherman IC unknown number of British tanks that the Free Polish Army used on the Western Front during WW2

 

HEAVY TANKS

IS-2 71 tanks acquired and used by the Polish Army on the Eastern Front during WW2

IS-3 2 tanks acquired and used by the Polish Army on the Eastern Front during WW2

Churchill unknown number of British tanks that the Free Polish Army used on the Western Front during WW2

 

TANK DESTROYERS

PZInz 160 prototype produced; Gun: 37mm wz.36; Max Sped: 50 kph; Armor is unknown

TKD 4 tanks produced; Gun: 47mm wz.25; Max Speed: 42kph; Hull: 6/6/6

ASU-57 100 tanks acquired from the Soviets in 1962

ASU-85 31 tanks acquired from the Soviets in 1966

ISU-122 22 tanks acquired from the Soviets

ISU-152 10 tanks acquired from the Soviets

M10 GMC unknown number acquired from the Americans and used by the Free Polish Army

SU-76 the main Polish tank destroyer used on the Eastern Front

SU-85 2 tanks acquired from the Soviets

SU-100 2 tanks acquired from the Soviets

SU-152 3 tanks acquired from the Soviets

Archer used by the 2nd Polish Corps in 1944

 

SPG

AHS Krab 28 tanks built: Gun: 155mm; Max Speed: 60kph; Armor is unknown

2S1 Gvozdika 324 tanks acquired from the Soviets

2S7 Pion 8 tanks acquired from the Soviets in 1985

 

I found this interesting concept for a Polish tank tech tree here -> http://polishtreefor...host24.com/?i=1

 

That's what I have for Poland and I am sure that I am missing some tanks especially the paper project tanks. BTW, if this tech tree ever comes out than the Soviet Rudy tank needs to move over to the Polish tech tree. That's because the tank is based after a popular Polish television show about Polish tankers during WW2. -> https://en.wikipedia...pancerni_i_pies

 

I hope you guys enjoy this look at Polish tanks. Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

Good list of tanks, sadly that's a lot of clones and prototypes - the trees largely unneeded from the look of it.  The need to save to Polish for a combined EU Tree ... Romanians, Polish, Etc.







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