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EmmaRizzi112 #1 Posted Aug 21 2017 - 07:32

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I want to play through an arty line, but I don't know which one would be better. I really liked my brothers M43, But he sold it, So I kind of want to get that one.

JEDIDIEUGH #2 Posted Aug 21 2017 - 07:48

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none. we don't anymore cancer.

tanopasman62 #3 Posted Aug 21 2017 - 07:54

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Russian arty is the best arty line if you're not an arty players because you can get the tier 7 S-51 from the KV-2, which carries a tier 10 nuclear blaster.



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The american ones are good, and the BC 155 58 is used in competitive play, but for your typical new player the American ones are easier to learn...

The G.W. Panther is probably the best tier for tier in the game, but other than the tier 4 and tier 6 the rest of the line is pretty "meh"...



Komitadjie #5 Posted Aug 21 2017 - 08:18

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I have enjoyed both German and American arty through 6, working on the GW Panther right now.

Grille is awesome fun.

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View PostE_Rizzi112, on Aug 21 2017 - 01:32, said:

I want to play through an arty line, but I don't know which one would be better. I really liked my brothers M43, But he sold it, So I kind of want to get that one.

 

First: ignore the anti arty trolls... They're responsible for the recent unwanted arty nerfing...

 

Second, most nations have their ups and down... Generally speaking, US arties have good engines and carry lots of ammo but cause average damage(a well placed shot may oneshot a same tier vehicle). French arties are very accurate and have good engines at the expense of causing low DMG (don't expect to ever oneshot a same tier unless ammoracking it, event if a direct hit inside an open cabin stationnay TD). German arties are powerful and have great range from the early tiers, at the expense of long reload, long aiming and slow top speed (a well placed shot may oneshot a tier over). Russian arties are fast and powerful at the expense of high dispersion and being behemoths when you reach mid tiers (you are an easy target) (a well placed shot may oneshot a tier over but trust me you'll never hit your target and will only score "close enough" shots). HK arties are hectic and pretty much each behave differently. I'd suggest beginning with the US line and then go French, Russian, German and British.



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Go Russky. Do it the less painful way and go through the KV-1 to the mother-of-all-derps KV-2, then up the Arty line at tier six.

 

IMHO



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View PostJEDIDIEUGH, on Aug 20 2017 - 22:48, said:

none. we don't anymore cancer.

 

I believe it's trying to communicate. :amazed:

Chalybos #9 Posted Aug 21 2017 - 17:12

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American line is good, Russian line is as well.  Either line works out well, but as pointed out the Russian line has the KV-2 shortcut.

EmmaRizzi112 #10 Posted Aug 21 2017 - 19:12

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I am going to go through the American arty :)

 


Edited by E_Rizzi112, Aug 21 2017 - 19:17.


Komitadjie #11 Posted Aug 21 2017 - 20:20

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Good call, I think. I just unlocked the M44, and this thing is all kinds of fun.

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View PostKomitadjie, on Aug 21 2017 - 12:20, said:

Good call, I think. I just unlocked the M44, and this thing is all kinds of fun.

 

Nice :)

EmmaRizzi112 #13 Posted Aug 21 2017 - 20:42

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View PostRake, on Aug 21 2017 - 01:28, said:

How many different threads are you going to troll this topic with?

 

I lost the other one lol sorry

Deaf_Taz #14 Posted Aug 21 2017 - 21:24

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View PostE_Rizzi112, on Aug 21 2017 - 00:32, said:

I want to play through an arty line, but I don't know which one would be better. I really liked my brothers M43, But he sold it, So I kind of want to get that one.

 

I played all lines of nations artys!  In my opinion, all artys are good.:great:

JEDIDIEUGH #15 Posted Aug 22 2017 - 05:27

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View PostLexers615, on Aug 20 2017 - 23:34, said:

 

First: ignore the anti arty trolls... They're responsible for the recent unwanted arty nerfing...

 

Second, most nations have their ups and down... Generally speaking, US arties have good engines and carry lots of ammo but cause average damage(a well placed shot may oneshot a same tier vehicle). French arties are very accurate and have good engines at the expense of causing low DMG (don't expect to ever oneshot a same tier unless ammoracking it, event if a direct hit inside an open cabin stationnay TD). German arties are powerful and have great range from the early tiers, at the expense of long reload, long aiming and slow top speed (a well placed shot may oneshot a tier over). Russian arties are fast and powerful at the expense of high dispersion and being behemoths when you reach mid tiers (you are an easy target) (a well placed shot may oneshot a tier over but trust me you'll never hit your target and will only score "close enough" shots). HK arties are hectic and pretty much each behave differently. I'd suggest beginning with the US line and then go French, Russian, German and British.

 

Anti arty trolls?

What's wrong with hating an unbalanced aspect of the game? 



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OP,

  I have approx. 13k arty battles, and almost all are the American line. If they weren't decent, I wouldn't have wasted my time in that many battles with the American line. German and some French are good as well, Russian hits hard- all have pros and cons to each nation. What nation is best for you likely will be determined on your play style in an arty.



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View PostJEDIDIEUGH, on Aug 21 2017 - 23:27, said:

 

Anti arty trolls?

What's wrong with hating an unbalanced aspect of the game? 

 

arty is one of the the sole soures of balance vs camping and OP top tiers...

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View PostJEDIDIEUGH, on Aug 22 2017 - 05:27, said:

 

Anti arty trolls?

What's wrong with hating an unbalanced aspect of the game? 

 

Everything , camper.  Everything.



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View PostColonelShakes, on Aug 25 2017 - 03:47, said:

 

Everything , camper.  Everything.

Did you just assume I play like a bot and sit still once I get spotted? I literally spend the majority of my time playing light tanks and when you get hit by arty going 50-60 kph from 1000 meters away can be REALLY frustrating. 

View PostLexers615, on Aug 23 2017 - 18:11, said:

 

arty is one of the the sole soures of balance vs camping and OP top tiers...

You've confused me... You said that arty is balanced against camping (basically means you believe the slogan 'arty prevents camping' ) and OP top tiers. Arty is literally the biggest cause of camping because everyone is afraid of getting hit by arty. Also "OP top tiers"? Like what the UDES,Patriot, tier 10 tanks etc.? If that's a problem just play tier 9 and up.

 

Note: My experience with artillery is a very bad one. I get focused down even  if I'm not the first one spotted.


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View PostJEDIDIEUGH, on Aug 28 2017 - 20:05, said:

Did you just assume I play like a bot and sit still once I get spotted? I literally spend the majority of my time playing light tanks and when you get hit by arty going 50-60 kph from 1000 meters away can be REALLY frustrating.

I play high tier arties nearly on a daily basis and what you are telling barely ever happens, unless you are talking about a modder who's got aimbot equivalent for arties and you were driving on a very very very linear path. Without even talking about the huge dispersion and the fact the arty shells are the soles that actually can land outside their indicated dispersion circle, they take up to 4-5s to reach their 1km away target, do the math...

 

View PostJEDIDIEUGH, on Aug 28 2017 - 20:05, said:

You've confused me... You said that arty is balanced against camping (basically means you believe the slogan 'arty prevents camping' ) and OP top tiers. Arty is literally the biggest cause of camping because everyone is afraid of getting hit by arty. Also "OP top tiers"? Like what the UDES,Patriot, tier 10 tanks etc.? If that's a problem just play tier 9 and up.

 

Note: My experience with artillery is a very bad one. I get focused down even  if I'm not the first one spotted.

Mostly fallacy there... As I just wrote, arty shells are the ones with the lowest velocity, so hitting a target in movement requires skills/mods/extreme luck. Hitting stationary targets (snipers, campers, arties, etc...) is possible because campers are used to their usual campfire locations (like hill in Fiery Stalient, or "that-rock-in-the-middle-of-nowhere-that-can-house-four-campers" in just about every map), which arty players are too, and we adjust accordingly... So, again unless you are talking about one of the "pros" with all the mods in the market, arty can effectively only hit slow moving or stationary targets or "maybe" linearly moving targets with luck. Anything else is only a source of frustration for arties... Campers on the other hand hate having to leave their campfires because of arty fires...

 

Besides, the artificially created arty whining (which modders started to defocus the debate away from modding) spreads "misconceptions" (i.e.: lies) that arties can see anyone, that we can hit anything, that we can oneshot any tank, etc... and resulted in the recent nerf in which most arties lost about 40% of their damage power (either through the raw damage potential, or WG's nerfing of the splash damage calculation on the server side) for the added stunning effect (which is clearly overrated but should have been added a while ago for every high caliber bounces... Your T29 crew may not even feel the chaingun shell bounces, but no way it won't suffer shock from a KV2 AP shell bouncing...)






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