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EL_MIG #1 Posted Aug 22 2017 - 01:52

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Where are the turney`s, i miss tournaments.  Its been almost a month with out tournaments, i need my turney fix. Yes im doing the clan cup but it aint the same. I call on my turney team but in cup my clan has a caller or 2. Im finaly getting good at calling the 3 vs3. come on WOT get the tournaments going. 

RushingJaws #2 Posted Aug 22 2017 - 02:10

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Wargaming realized they were giving out a fortune in tourneys, killing their profit, and slowly killed it.

Doomslinger #3 Posted Aug 22 2017 - 02:18

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The tournaments were rigged so that if you won too often, it would affect your match making in there. Suddenly you would be playing 9000 rating players/teams if you won a few of those tournaments. So people would join tournaments and just not show up. This would place them at the bottom for points and lower their mm ratings. Then they would get better mm because the system would adjust them down to play against players with average or lower ratings, instead of having to play against high rated players all the time. This is a perfect example of what happens with skill based mm. People learn how to "game" the system so they can fight against lower in skill opponents. I think WG saw what was going on so they are trying to find a way to change how that tournament ranking system works. That is a fundamental flaw with skill based mm systems. A 9000 rating player can "game" the system so they are being matched against 3000 rating players. Imagine what that is like for the 3000 rating players? I have seen this happen in other games with skill based mm systems.

Strike_Witch_Tomoko #4 Posted Aug 22 2017 - 02:23

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View PostEL_MIG, on Aug 21 2017 - 17:52, said:

Where are the turney`s, i miss tournaments.  Its been almost a month with out tournaments, i need my turney fix. Yes im doing the clan cup but it aint the same. I call on my turney team but in cup my clan has a caller or 2. Im finaly getting good at calling the 3 vs3. come on WOT get the tournaments going. 

 

tourny dev was moved to a different position

 

we don't have a replacement



Agentt_Orange #5 Posted Aug 22 2017 - 02:50

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View PostRushingJaws, on Aug 22 2017 - 02:10, said:

Wargaming realized they were giving out a fortune in tourneys, killing their profit, and slowly killed it.

 

^^  THIS is exactly what I believe, too.  Remember last October when WG "blew their gold budget"???  How do you blow your "virtual" gold budget??  :amazed:

I'm sure WG will have a week long tourney some time near the end of the year during the holidays.  The big 19th anniversary celebration was a garage slot and a day of premium!?!  While I like having a free garage slot and a day of premium, it would have been great to have a 19th anniversary tournament, a discount on premium time, xp conversion, discounts on camo, a cool tank, etc.  (And yes, I did like the 50% off equipment... so I know there was a little more than I first reported about).  With the decline in player base, a better marketing campaign, and thank you to the long time players, would have been in order. 



BigDollarBillz #6 Posted Aug 22 2017 - 03:47

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They are reworking the tournaments.

VoteKickHacks #7 Posted Aug 22 2017 - 03:57

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I ate them, my bad.
Take comfort in the fact that it tasted good.

Outamyhead #8 Posted Aug 23 2017 - 03:38

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View PostBigDollarBillz, on Aug 21 2017 - 18:47, said:

They are reworking the tournaments.

 

I noticed they changed the wording of the WGLNA opening tournament, it went from an automatic invite to the silver league, to there will be no silver league.

Edited by Outamyhead, Aug 23 2017 - 04:22.


Raum_The_Smurf #9 Posted Aug 24 2017 - 00:42

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View PostRushingJaws, on Aug 21 2017 - 20:10, said:

Wargaming realized they were giving out a fortune in tourneys, killing their profit, and slowly killed it.

 

slowly killed it? tf it was here and then it wasnt

View PostDoomslinger, on Aug 21 2017 - 20:18, said:

The tournaments were rigged so that if you won too often, it would affect your match making in there. Suddenly you would be playing 9000 rating players/teams if you won a few of those tournaments. So people would join tournaments and just not show up. This would place them at the bottom for points and lower their mm ratings. Then they would get better mm because the system would adjust them down to play against players with average or lower ratings, instead of having to play against high rated players all the time. This is a perfect example of what happens with skill based mm. People learn how to "game" the system so they can fight against lower in skill opponents. I think WG saw what was going on so they are trying to find a way to change how that tournament ranking system works. That is a fundamental flaw with skill based mm systems. A 9000 rating player can "game" the system so they are being matched against 3000 rating players. Imagine what that is like for the 3000 rating players? I have seen this happen in other games with skill based mm systems.

 

never had that issue i didnt get placed against a crap ton of high PR people everytime and most of the time the ones that werent showing up were the low PR players and i never registered for a game and missed it unless something important came up

cavalry11 #10 Posted Aug 24 2017 - 03:48

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they just did away with the tournaments for the average player they still have the ones for high caliber players and they pay huge amounts for winners. as usual if you are an average player you don't matter to wargaming.

rrobilla51 #11 Posted Aug 24 2017 - 21:44

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WG better start the 1 x 1's and 3 x3's pretty soon.  I spend a fortune with them but wont put out another cent until the tournaments restart.   The only reason I acquire tanks is to participate in these tournaments, thus no tournaments = no play = I wont  pay.   lets all kill their revenue stream and not buy anything from them until tournaments return.  

I also don't want excuses like they blew their gold budget, that's just BS.  or the guy that ran them moved and they don't have a replacement, that's just BS also.   I'm sure WG has more than one person that can setup the tournaments.



Josies_boy #12 Posted Aug 27 2017 - 02:10

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Maybe look at:

Player Suggestions to WoT for Tournament Design



EL_MIG #13 Posted Aug 30 2017 - 03:53

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this is  so sad to see, WOT cant even keep the tournaments going. Broken company

Snowplow #14 Posted Aug 31 2017 - 22:16

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Really miss the good old 5 vs 5 weekly - made a fortune in gold and premium time . Hopefully WG will have a new format soon .

sector7ge #15 Posted Sep 01 2017 - 22:11

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Bring back the tournaments, is this algo happening in other servers too?

Warlion485 #16 Posted Sep 01 2017 - 22:37

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View Postrrobilla51, on Aug 24 2017 - 20:44, said:

WG better start the 1 x 1's and 3 x3's pretty soon.  I spend a fortune with them but wont put out another cent until the tournaments restart.   The only reason I acquire tanks is to participate in these tournaments, thus no tournaments = no play = I wont  pay.   lets all kill their revenue stream and not buy anything from them until tournaments return.  

I also don't want excuses like they blew their gold budget, that's just BS.  or the guy that ran them moved and they don't have a replacement, that's just BS also.   I'm sure WG has more than one person that can setup the tournaments.

 

Business......no make money....something goes away.  Oh......... like the 30K players that were on line.

AnonymousHippopotamus #17 Posted Sep 02 2017 - 05:40

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If you're interested, check out this 1 v 1 tournament I host every friday: http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/552642-new-1-v-1-tournament-to-be-hosted-every-friday/

Cylon_Dave #18 Posted Sep 05 2017 - 21:29

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Based on how the WGLNA has went this year for all sides EU, APAC, and NA sounds like a heavy overhaul redo on the tourny system and competitive side of Tanks.

+added note: There was mention of work being done to make the up coming tournament system less buggy. (players not being added in roaster, time of matches starting to early)

 



Moose_Nuts #19 Posted Sep 07 2017 - 00:03

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They are too busy making stupid 30v30 modes too worry about tournaments.

 



Lews_Kannon #20 Posted Sep 08 2017 - 22:15

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So I am [edited]at WG Tourneys via Email.  After 3 attempts they respond to come here.  I don't see a [edited]answer!  @ WoT if you have time to conduct tourneys for high tier 15v15 you can get the rest of us,  If you have time to put yet another NEW [edited]PREM. TANK into service you can help the community by flipping the dam Tourney 'switch' for the 1v1 etc.  OMG no wonder the fan base is dying morons.  you need new management



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