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Loveclark #1 Posted Aug 23 2017 - 14:34

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I am the first one out in the middle or where ever and hide in a bush to do spotting and I lite up enemy players and my team mates shot them but I don't get the spotting damage for them can you tell me what maybe going wrong or do I need to run around like a chicken with my head cut off to get my spotting damage

Fulcrous___O_OII #2 Posted Aug 23 2017 - 14:41

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If there is a tank with more View Range than you, (another light) they will get the spotting damage. You need to see the notification "Spotted (Tank Name)" and you'll see "Assist Damage (Tank Name)"

 

 



ThePigSheFlies #3 Posted Aug 23 2017 - 14:42

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more specifics would be needed to answer that, but more than likely someone else is actually spotting them.

 

as for "running around like a chicken with your head cut off" - no, that is not how active spotting is done either, and the fact that you asked that question makes me really wonder how little you do know about running LTs.

 

upload some replays, or at least a heat map showing where you went and when if you want a better answer.

 

else you can always search wotreplays or vbaddict for replays on the map you're struggling with to find out how other people are getting high spotting assist battles.



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Post a replay so we can tell you what you're doing wrong.

Desert_Fox_1969 #5 Posted Aug 23 2017 - 15:03

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Very likely another scout spotted them before you. 

Hellsfog #6 Posted Aug 23 2017 - 15:32

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I assume we are talking about your chaffee since it is your most played tank. The chaffee has good view range for it's tier so spotting shouldn't be a problem. With these two facts in mind,

 

1. What equipment are you running? vents, optics, binocs?

2. Is your crew at 100%? Please say it is.

3. What crew skill/perks are you using? Situational awareness, recon?

4. Not all bushes are the same. Are you setting up where you can spot the enemy and your team can shoot them?

5. What other tanks are in the area who may be spotting instead of you?

 

A replay would be helpful in answering the last two.  Even if we aren't talking about the chaffee, the same questions would apply to other scouts. 



PunCzarBlintz #7 Posted Aug 23 2017 - 16:00

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You have to sit in the right bush.

The enemy team has to go where you are spotting.

Your team has to cooperate.

 

When all three elements come together, you get a high pay off in spotting damage.

Lose one element,  and it falls apart.



roestreyev #8 Posted Aug 23 2017 - 16:04

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You get spotting damages if your ally doing the damages doesn't have enough view range to see that target for himself. If there are 2 of you spotting target, you'll get half the spotting damages.

Plays_With_Matches #9 Posted Aug 23 2017 - 16:51

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You will only get spotting damage for damage dealt by your team mates that can not spot for themselves. For example if there is a TD sitting behind you dishing out damage and the enemy is beyond his view range someone else will get the credit for the spotting. However if multiple tanks are spotting the spotting damage will be divided among the tanks spotting.

oldewolfe #10 Posted Aug 24 2017 - 17:05

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I get most of my Spotting Damage by being in the Wrong Place at the Right Time.....     

 

I haven't Played a Scout Live since my MT25, and that didn't go well.....       On the Test Server, I have played the T49, RU251, and the T100LT.....     But that's about it, most of my Spotting/Assist Damage is in mostly Mediums and Heavies.....

 

I think my Best Game for Spotting Damage was in my Centurion Mk I at almost 3K Spotting and just over 1K on my own....



ThePigSheFlies #11 Posted Aug 24 2017 - 18:10

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View Postoldewolfe, on Aug 24 2017 - 11:05, said:

I get most of my Spotting Damage by being in the Wrong Place at the Right Time.....     

 

I haven't Played a Scout Live since my MT25, and that didn't go well.....       On the Test Server, I have played the T49, RU251, and the T100LT.....     But that's about it, most of my Spotting/Assist Damage is in mostly Mediums and Heavies.....

 

I think my Best Game for Spotting Damage was in my Centurion Mk I at almost 3K Spotting and just over 1K on my own....

 

most people can't play all classes equally well.  I struggle a bit in TDs and Heavies, because I find them boring.  

 

As for racking up spotting assist.

  • My best so far was 13k assist in the 1390 when it was a tier 8 - early passive, then mid/late game active
  • My best in a tier 7 was right around 10k in the T71 when it saw tier 10s - all active scouting and damage dealing on prok
  • My best in a tier 6, was 11k assist in the Type 64 - when it saw tier 9s.  all passive.  my team base camped maliknova, and so did theirs
  • My best in a tier 5 was 10k assist in the old T-50-2 when it saw tier 10s, and long before wargaming thought about giving us the MegaTurd25™  I had multiple games in the old Chaffee and old ELC over 8k assist over the years.

 

 



MayhemUndyTkr #12 Posted Sep 13 2017 - 16:02

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Again, replay lets everyone see what you are doing well or poorly, but something I have noticed many LT players do, is run out to a good "spot" or "bush", that has no Line of Sight.  You may be closest to the enemy, and may have gotten there first, and cammo'ed up, and binocs up, but there is a ROCK in front of you... or a hill..., or a building...  Sometimes LT players will get set in their ways and have their "spots" that they go to, even if another scout with better vision, higher tier, better view of the field is in the same area.  I call it "Double Scouting" (sometimes triple..)  Communicate your intentions with the team, ask the other scout where they intend to go, do not vie for your "spot".  Be sure to be flexible and in an area where YOU can be beneficial to your team.  Even if Pig "stole" your bush...  Go find a place to help the other flank...  Something that has helped my LT play...  Stop in the bush 3 seconds before the bush you think you should be in.  Be CERTAIN you have LOS...  Get YOUR camo/binocs up while the enemy is moving, and you are still...

Ikanator #13 Posted Sep 28 2017 - 03:35

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I favor running TDs. I usually try to run TDs that have good view ranges and then add to that with binocular optics, vents when possible, Situational Awareness and Recon skills. While I don't always get a lot of spotting damage, I nevertheless occasionally get games where I get Spotter's Medals and once even got a Patrol Duty medal. Obviously for the binoculars to kick in I have to be stationary. It's partly a question of picking the right bush/whatever to hide behind, partly a matter of where the enemy is going in relation to where you are, as well as how many of your teammates can engage the targets you are spotting. You also need to get a handle on figuring out lines of sight from where you are as well. The game can be frustrating in that it's not always blindingly obvious which areas are blocked from your vision by the terrain. The minimap can both help and hinder because while it tells you the position of all contacts that are known by all the allied tanks you are in radio communications with, it doesn't indicate which areas you can't see into from where you are. Last but possibly not least, I would suggest getting the Signal Boosting skill for your radio operator if you can. The greater your radio range, the more allied tanks you can talk to and transmit targeting information to, the more likely you could get spotting damage.

 

I realize that getting some of these skills may be a problem as light tanks tend to have small crews with members having more than one role to play. So you might have to get a 4 or 5 skill crew before you can have all the bases covered in terms of skills and perks that you arguably need to have to get best performance out of the vehicle. Just stick with it and make use of your personal reserves as much as you can. I don't normally run light tanks, but I would suggest that at the very least you get coated optics and install vents if you can. Binocular optics might not help that much as you may want to be more mobile than a "camping" TD. Make sure your crew's concealment skills are full up at 100%, and get the other skills I mentioned. BIA will also help as well. I suspect that one of the harder aspects of LTs could be figuring out when, where and how to move. I know that it can take a surprisingly long time to do that for TDs, because contrary to some people's expectations and play styles you usually can't just hide behind the same bush the whole game. :)


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HazmattsMilitia #14 Posted Nov 04 2017 - 20:16

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View PostThePigSheFlies, on Aug 23 2017 - 08:42, said:

as for "running around like a chicken with your head cut off" - no, that is not how active spotting is done either, and the fact that you asked that question makes me really wonder how little you do know about running LTs.

 Most of the time that is true but there is a time and place for "running around like a chicken with it's head cut off". I had a battle in my ELC just the other day where i got 3,815 spotting/tracking damage and spotted 11 enemy tanks by doing exactly that. Though the "running around like a chicken with it's head cut off" method is heavily dependent on how well your team reacts to the targets they are presented, in my case my team did excellent in supporting me and I survived the battle with half my hp left due mostly to the great support I got. Thanks to the players who played a standard battle in Malinovka starting at the south spawn on 11/2/17 6:23PM! :honoring:



Awestryker #15 Posted Nov 09 2017 - 21:09

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View PostLoveclark, on Aug 23 2017 - 08:34, said:

I am the first one out in the middle or where ever and hide in a bush to do spotting and I lite up enemy players and my team mates shot them but I don't get the spotting damage for them can you tell me what maybe going wrong or do I need to run around like a chicken with my head cut off to get my spotting damage

 

Secret WoT info: Some bushes don't work like others...

 

Scouting is a BLAST, but you need to work to learn to do it well...

 

First, watch this: Explaining Mechanics - Visibility System

https://www.youtube....h?v=7qrQ1UPltXg

 

Then watch these videos:

https://www.youtube....h?v=Ul6pP4A3SwA

https://www.youtube....h?v=1Uj7-EpGkRo

https://www.youtube....h?v=bGZEZmqwfkc

 

This next part is a lot of work but it pays off...

Watch these videos, and open up Excel as your watching, pause and alt tab back and forth as you watch these videos, make a spreadsheet with all the map names down along the left side (e.g. Abbey, Airfield, etc.) and all the random game types (e.g. standard, encounter, assault) along the top of the spreadsheet, and as you watch these videos pause them and put the bush grid location these guys give you into the spreadsheet (e.g. A5, etc. - and maybe make some notes for yourself in the spreadsheet). These two links below lead to 130+ videos on scouting locations, but, the good part is you do not need to watch every second of every video, you decide how much you want to watch of each. Every single map in current rotation, except for one, has passive scouting locations, and everyone can be actively scouted. When your done with the spreadsheet, print it out, and keep it in front of you as you play:

https://www.youtube....pMAU_drqZK9s3rJ

https://www.youtube....-zCh2Ivc2oOFiD4

 

Enjoy...lights are a BLAST...


Edited by Awestryker, Nov 09 2017 - 21:18.






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