Jump to content


Buff to T69 and T54E1


  • Please log in to reply
19 replies to this topic

MacDaddyMatty #1 Posted Aug 28 2017 - 13:41

    Major

  • -Players-
  • 17753 battles
  • 3,549
  • [D-DAY] D-DAY
  • Member since:
    10-07-2016

developers...

Issue:
The USA T69 and T54E1 have been power-creeped by the new tec-tree and premium tanks to the point they are unable to compete.

Fix:
Please consider the following change to both these tanks:
- Penetration. This is a must. At current all of its rounds are woefully inadequate even when top tier. This tanks regularly sees tier 10!
- Shell velocity. Currently too slow.
as well any of the following:
- Speed or
- Turret armor or
- Shell cost. A very good game

(Ace: http://wotreplays.com/site/3786132#fiery_salient-macdaddymatty-t69 ) makes 5,000-8,000 credits. An ok, or bad game ( http://wotreplays.com/site/3785899#abbey-macdaddymatty-t69  loses 20,000-60,000 credits!!)
 

 

(EDIT: with premium account and boosters!)


 

Thank you for your consideration.
~MDM


Edited by MacDaddyMatty, Aug 28 2017 - 13:47.


MacDaddyMatty #2 Posted Aug 28 2017 - 13:46

    Major

  • -Players-
  • 17753 battles
  • 3,549
  • [D-DAY] D-DAY
  • Member since:
    10-07-2016

It breaks my heart.

It usually ends up as a fireball.

http://macdaddymatty.com/pics/fireball.jpg



Nudnick #3 Posted Aug 28 2017 - 13:47

    Major

  • -Players-
  • 21137 battles
  • 2,349
  • Member since:
    01-06-2013
Totally agree, my T69 sits in the garage, and I have the T54 unlocked but won't buy it until they buff it.

Kamahl1234 #4 Posted Aug 28 2017 - 15:26

    Major

  • Players
  • 17962 battles
  • 8,618
  • Member since:
    04-06-2012
Well, IIRC with the HD change the T69 is getting a pretty good turret buff.

__xXKingXx__ #5 Posted Aug 28 2017 - 15:40

    Sergeant

  • Players
  • 18520 battles
  • 190
  • [-GO-] -GO-
  • Member since:
    06-21-2012
What about the Type 59 facing all the Power Houses?

MacDaddyMatty #6 Posted Aug 28 2017 - 15:57

    Major

  • -Players-
  • 17753 battles
  • 3,549
  • [D-DAY] D-DAY
  • Member since:
    10-07-2016

View Post__xXKingXx__, on Aug 28 2017 - 09:40, said:

What about the Type 59 facing all the Power Houses?

 

I don't know, make a new thread about it.

This one is for the T69 and T54E1.


 


Edited by MacDaddyMatty, Aug 28 2017 - 15:57.


Doomslinger #7 Posted Aug 28 2017 - 16:02

    Major

  • Players
  • 61656 battles
  • 5,767
  • Member since:
    07-29-2012

View Post__xXKingXx__, on Aug 28 2017 - 10:40, said:

What about the Type 59 facing all the Power Houses?

 

I read that the type 59 is getting a lot of buffs soon.

BlitzMInc #8 Posted Aug 28 2017 - 16:50

    Staff sergeant

  • Players
  • 35473 battles
  • 384
  • [NSP] NSP
  • Member since:
    01-03-2013
well you gotta shoot alot of gold but i still do good in my e1, 1600 potential in 6secs is nice if used good

Dogg_zilla #9 Posted Aug 28 2017 - 17:29

    First lieutenant

  • -Players-
  • 7962 battles
  • 523
  • Member since:
    03-07-2015
I've never seen so many people agree before on here.

I also agree.

Even the T-57 has trouble fighting other tier X, the T54 and T69 are completely inadequate.

The T-57 is worse than most tier 9, and is only slightly better than most tier 8 auto loaders.

The 54 and 69 are completely and totally inadequate in every way. The 57 is only barely adequate, and I usually target it because it's an easy kill. I can't even count how many times I've had T57 rounds bounce off of me in anything even moderately armored. The 54 and 69 are incredibly easy to defeat.





misterwit #10 Posted Aug 28 2017 - 18:32

    First lieutenant

  • Players
  • 12824 battles
  • 703
  • [NOKAP] NOKAP
  • Member since:
    06-15-2011

I'd be happy with my T54E1 getting some gun handling buffs but that's all it needs really.

 

I could be a bit jaded since I was cooking a crew up to 3 skills in a premium tank before I unlocked it so I've been rolling with BIA among other perks since battle 1.



BlitzMInc #11 Posted Aug 28 2017 - 19:13

    Staff sergeant

  • Players
  • 35473 battles
  • 384
  • [NSP] NSP
  • Member since:
    01-03-2013

View PostDogg_zilla, on Aug 28 2017 - 11:29, said:

I've never seen so many people agree before on here.

I also agree.

Even the T-57 has trouble fighting other tier X, the T54 and T69 are completely inadequate.

The T-57 is worse than most tier 9, and is only slightly better than most tier 8 auto loaders.

The 54 and 69 are completely and totally inadequate in every way. The 57 is only barely adequate, and I usually target it because it's an easy kill. I can't even count how many times I've had T57 rounds bounce off of me in anything even moderately armored. The 54 and 69 are incredibly easy to defeat.


 

 

the t57 is one of the most op 10s there is, it is not easy mode like some others but that thing is a dmp monster

maybe you faced less skilled players, or since it reloads so fast i dont think twice about whipping shells out there

i would like a better ap round for the e1, id prolly shoot gold anyway tho for the better velocity



BlitzMInc #12 Posted Aug 28 2017 - 19:16

    Staff sergeant

  • Players
  • 35473 battles
  • 384
  • [NSP] NSP
  • Member since:
    01-03-2013

View Postmisterwit, on Aug 28 2017 - 12:32, said:

I'd be happy with my T54E1 getting some gun handling buffs but that's all it needs really.

 

I could be a bit jaded since I was cooking a crew up to 3 skills in a premium tank before I unlocked it so I've been rolling with BIA among other perks since battle 1.

 

ya .4 is kinda brutal, it is possible to snipe and hit half your clip maybe 3

Gnevsie #13 Posted Aug 29 2017 - 11:32

    Corporal

  • -Players-
  • 1930 battles
  • 45
  • Member since:
    03-15-2015
Poor murican' Autoloaders D: ... I secretly weep for them when a T57 turns a corner to see my 155 just staring at it with a star in its eye, gleeful in its luck to see a T57 infront of it, in the open! hoping that I've loaded HE to two shot the poor thing and put it out of its misery, or just use a full clip, whichever.

*snif*

doogie9982 #14 Posted Aug 29 2017 - 11:57

    Staff sergeant

  • Players
  • 20052 battles
  • 294
  • Member since:
    12-06-2012
I did ok in the T69, of course you have to spam heat to be even remotely competitive.  However I cannot deal with the steaming pile of dog excrement that is the T54E1.  This tank will sit in my garage collecting dust until WG decides to make it playable again or until I get really desperate for credits.

MacDaddyMatty #15 Posted Aug 31 2017 - 00:28

    Major

  • -Players-
  • 17753 battles
  • 3,549
  • [D-DAY] D-DAY
  • Member since:
    10-07-2016

T69

Shells         APCR/HEAT/HE
270/5600/250
Shell Cost
150/150/185 HPDamage
175/210/38 mmPenetration
 
DPM   1431

 

Lorr 40t

AP/APCR/HE
Shells
1030/4000/650
Shell Cost
300/300/400 HPDamage
232/263/50 mmPenetration
 
DPM   2670

:(


Edited by MacDaddyMatty, Aug 31 2017 - 00:32.


billwiw #16 Posted Aug 31 2017 - 00:31

    Staff sergeant

  • Players
  • 29660 battles
  • 379
  • [FELOW] FELOW
  • Member since:
    04-15-2011
The T54E1 is really good. It doesn't need a buff. That's like people complaining about how they want their WTE100's back. You still destroy french auto-loaders and heavies when you flank. The T69 is pretty weak at the moment so it could use a tiny bit of speed.

MacDaddyMatty #17 Posted Aug 31 2017 - 00:33

    Major

  • -Players-
  • 17753 battles
  • 3,549
  • [D-DAY] D-DAY
  • Member since:
    10-07-2016

View Postbillwiw, on Aug 30 2017 - 18:31, said:

The T54E1 is really good. It doesn't need a buff. That's like people complaining about how they want their WTE100's back. You still destroy french auto-loaders and heavies when you flank. The T69 is pretty weak at the moment so it could use a tiny bit of speed.

 

T69 cant pen anything. 

Look at the stats.


Edited by MacDaddyMatty, Aug 31 2017 - 00:34.


BlitzMInc #18 Posted Sep 13 2017 - 16:55

    Staff sergeant

  • Players
  • 35473 battles
  • 384
  • [NSP] NSP
  • Member since:
    01-03-2013

View PostMacDaddyMatty, on Aug 30 2017 - 18:28, said:

T69

Shells         APCR/HEAT/HE
270/5600/250
Shell Cost
150/150/185 HPDamage
175/210/38 mmPenetration
 
DPM   1431

 

Lorr 40t

AP/APCR/HE
Shells
1030/4000/650
Shell Cost
300/300/400 HPDamage
232/263/50 mmPenetration
 
DPM   2670

:(

 

thats the stock gun, its a little better than that

GearTech #19 Posted Sep 13 2017 - 22:47

    Corporal

  • Players
  • 14240 battles
  • 11
  • [GT-I] GT-I
  • Member since:
    05-22-2011

Alright i figure i better comment on here seeing as i love the 3 american autoloaders to no end :P

First lets start with the T69: great tank, I could stop there but it does need a small amount of love. Most of its stats are good or at least par for a tier 8 medium. The T69 has always had bad pen forcing you to be careful when and where you place your shots. a pen buff to get it up to at least the pershing would be amazing and go a long way. Aim time is about the only other stat on the tank I want to see improved because right now it takes an unholy amount of time to aim. The rest of its gun handling stats are meh but arent too much worse than the centurion. Now its armor is not as weak as you people make it out to be, it has pretty average values for a medium and enough weird angles to bounce shots. The tank could use a small tweak but it is by no means under powered, I consistently put out great games in it and its one of my highest win rate and WN8 tanks i own and use.

Now on to the T54E1: Now again i like the t54e1, however it has some of the same problems such as the gun has less pen then the patton when they are from the same nation. Gun handling is pretty poor on the t54e1 like the t69, there is much to be desired here and should get a small buff to put it up in line with at least the centurion. The biggest problem i have with the t54e1 is actually its mobility. Now this is not entirely unwarranted because the t54e1 actually has pretty decent armor for a medium and beats out a lot of other. Decent armor combined with the weird angling and curves on this tank make it bounce a lot of shells you wouldnt expect.

 

T57: I dont even know why some of you think this tank is weak... It gets the exact same gun as the T110E5 putting out 400dmg and 258mm penetration. the gun handling is worse but it better be! the thing has 25% more damage per minute that the e5 which most autoloaders have less dmp than their standard loading counterparts because burst damage is a thing. SO the fact that this tank has an insane burst and still higher dpm almost warrent a nerf to the thing. If it wasnt for the sub par armor this thing would be very over powered but as it stands it is still a top tier tank and I love getting insane damage games in it.



8bit_Gamer #20 Posted Sep 13 2017 - 22:53

    First lieutenant

  • Players
  • 13955 battles
  • 716
  • Member since:
    04-23-2011
Stopped my T69 grind half way through. Did the HD model help the armor situation at all?

I would appreciate some love for that line. I would readily pick it back up and start working toward the T57 again if they did.




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users