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Poll: Help Lert decide on his next R/C tank (29 members have cast votes)

Which one to get?

  1. Panther (5 votes [17.24%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 17.24%

  2. Panzer III (3 votes [10.34%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.34%

  3. KV-1 (10 votes [34.48%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 34.48%

  4. T-34/85 (8 votes [27.59%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 27.59%

  5. M4A3 (3 votes [10.34%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.34%

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Lert #1 Posted Sep 07 2017 - 19:40

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I'm likely to be in a position soon to get another 1/16th scale R/C tank. Now I'm trying to decide which one to get. My choices are:

 

- Panther

- Pz III

- KV-1

- T-34/85

- Sherman M4A3

 

Reasons to get the Panther:

- It's a Panther! Legendary machine.

- Imposing piece, even in 1/16 scale

 

Reasons not to get the Panther:

- Already have a JagdPanther. Same chassis, similar vehicle.

- Needs a small investment in third-party photo etch to get to an acceptable standard of detail, mostly the engine grills.

- Already have four German tanks.

 

Reasons to get the Pz III:

- Nice and compact

- Underrated machine

 

Reasons not to get the Pz III:

- Already have a StuG III, same chassis, similar vehicle

- Is the manufacturer's oldest model, thus the detail is lacking and proportions are - .. eh.

- Needs a moderate investment in third-party photo etch and parts to get to an acceptable standard of detail.

- Already have four German tanks.

 

Reasons to get the KV-1:

- Would be my first Russian one

- Can replace KV-1 turret with third-party KV-2 turret and thus have a KV-2

 

Reasons not to get the KV-1:

- The KV-1 itself is a bit - eh.

- I don't want a Kv-1, I want a KV-2. Turning it into a KV-2 would require another ~$100, which I don't have and thus would be a future investment, but this is still the cheapest way of getting a 1/16 scale R/C KV-2.

 

Reasons to get the T-34/85:

- Would be my first Russian one

- Legendary machine

 

Reasons not to get the T-34/85:

- I'd rather have a T-34/76, but they don't make those

- It's a bit cliche, isn't it, such a standard vehicle

 

Reasons to get the Sherman M4A3:

- It's a Sherman! Everyone loves Shermans.

- Would be my first allied / US vehicle

- It's a welded hull type, which I prefer over the cast hull types

 

Reasons not to get the Sherman M4A3:

- It's the M4A3, IMO the ugliest turret design for the Sherman

- Honestly, in a model of a Sherman I'd rather not have the 105mm howitzer but a 75 or better yet, a 76

- Replacing the turret and gun would be as expensive as making the KV-1 into a KV-2

 

So help me choose?

 

"But why not *insert tank here* instead?"

 

Because I don't want insert tank here instead. I've narrowed it down to one of these five.

 

As bonus content, here a picture of my StuG III G:

 


Edited by Lert, Sep 07 2017 - 20:48.


qcarr #2 Posted Sep 07 2017 - 19:43

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I voted for the T-34-85. Legendary vehicle, and would be your first Soviet tank. I love Shermans, but would hold out until you can get hold of an Easy 8. :)

 

Good luck with whatever you choose, and I hope you'll post lots of photos!



Lert #3 Posted Sep 07 2017 - 19:46

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View Postqcarr, on Sep 07 2017 - 18:43, said:

 I love Shermans, but would hold out until you can get hold of an Easy 8.

 

They don't make one at this scale at a price I'd ever be able to afford. Chances of that ever happening are slim to none.

Dockmaster #4 Posted Sep 07 2017 - 20:00

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I think the Panther was one of the iconic tanks of WWII. It was produced in significant numbers and was a tough opponent by all accounts.

 

It gets my vote.

 

P.S. Very nice to see you post Lert. You have been missed around here.



Da_Craw #5 Posted Sep 07 2017 - 20:21

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Which PzIII?  The earlier models with the 37s are not as sexy as the later ones.  IIIG is pefect.  Nice turret, big gun, no side skirts.

Lert #6 Posted Sep 07 2017 - 20:25

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View PostDa_Craw, on Sep 07 2017 - 19:21, said:

Which PzIII?

 

Ausf. L:

 

 

I would have to get third-party engine grille vents and replace the overly thick plastic barrel with a more scale accurate 50mm L/60 aftermarket aluminum barrel to even make it look presentable.



Yankee #7 Posted Sep 07 2017 - 20:30

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Why not a Tiger?

Lert #8 Posted Sep 07 2017 - 20:31

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View PostYankee, on Sep 07 2017 - 19:30, said:

Why not a Tiger?

 

Because it's an overrated, abominably misshapen, malproportioned square box that I have no interest in spending any money on, let alone my entire 'toy' budget for the rest of this year.

Edited by Lert, Sep 07 2017 - 20:33.


ArtyAardvark #9 Posted Sep 07 2017 - 20:37

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Good to see a Lert post. I thought about it a bit, and you have German ones already, so not the German, though the Panther is a beautiful tank and you would like it, and the pz3 is very cool, but kinda small. The Russian tanks...I love the KV1, but the two Russian tanks aren't really "lookers"...if you know what I mean. The Sherman, cool, and though not necessarily the variant I would have chosen either, I think would be most enjoyable for you, and cool to watch. So...I vote Sherman. Btw, I have the cast metal versions of a lot of their tanks, the Shermans are really nice.

Lert #10 Posted Sep 07 2017 - 20:40

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View PostArtyAardvark, on Sep 07 2017 - 19:37, said:

Btw, I have the cast metal versions of a lot of their tanks, the Shermans are really nice.

 

Yeah that's the general consensus. Thing is though that the Sherman would take at least a turret and gun replacement to bring it to a standard I'd be happy with.

 

I have:

 

- JagdPanther

- Leopard 2A6

- Pz IV F2

- StuG III G

 

Though the Pz IV is in pieces awaiting a rebuild, and the electronics are kaputt.



moon111 #11 Posted Sep 07 2017 - 20:57

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I saw these RC tanks for the first time at the Aquino tank-fest.  When told how much they cost my kid wasn't interested.  It was like a dead skunk to him.

 

Unless you're getting bigger, faster, better.... why get another?  There doesn't seem to be a purpose.  Although new is always grand, at that point, does

it make sense to hold on to all the old?  Sell something off to finance the new?  Get that KV-2 turret and change the Stug to a Finnish version and go to war.



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I stopped at Panther. For me there is no other tank. ;)

NL_Celt #13 Posted Sep 07 2017 - 21:16

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I'd go for the KV-1 seeing as you have no USSR tanks. One of the first truly sensibly designed heavy tanks, a major shock to the Germans.

 

When I played sand box tanks many years ago we had multiple tanks of the same type, Tigers, Panthers, Pz IV and III, Shermans, and especially T-34s as well as several KV-I. The 1/76 scale models we had for the T-34 and KV were supplied with two turrets that you could switch with a quick turn to make the T-34/76 into the T-34/85 and the KV-1 into the KV-2. Any chance you can do similar and have both versions of the KV? Change the display every so often.

 

My second vote would be the T-34/85


Edited by NL_Celt, Sep 07 2017 - 21:19.


Lert #14 Posted Sep 07 2017 - 21:24

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View PostNL_Celt, on Sep 07 2017 - 20:16, said:

Any chance you can do similar and have both versions of the KV? Change the display every so often.

 

Would need some finagling, but I think I could manage. The aftermarket turret is a captured one with a German cupola:

 

 

I would need to remove the cupola and replace it with plasticard, fill gaps with putty, sand smooth, etc. The difficult bit would be making another periscope. I was going to use one of the ones from the KV-1 turret, which ofcourse I can't do if I want to keep the KV-1 turret intact. I'd need to scratchbuild a periscope.

 

If I do that replacing the KV-1 turret with the KV-2 one and vice versa would be a matter of 10 minutes with a screwdriver, opening up the tank, undoing the turret drive mechanism, unplugging the electronics and swapping the turret, then assembling the whole thing again.


Edited by Lert, Sep 07 2017 - 21:26.


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Beautiful finish job on the Stug!

Go with the 34/85!  Why?  Because "Russian Bias" LOL

 



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View PostLert, on Sep 07 2017 - 13:25, said:

 

Ausf. L:

 

 

I would have to get third-party engine grille vents and replace the overly thick plastic barrel with a more scale accurate 50mm L/60 aftermarket aluminum barrel to even make it look presentable.

 

Meh.  That is definitely lower quality in appearance than the Stug.

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Are any of these the variety that fire airsoft rounds?

Lert #18 Posted Sep 07 2017 - 21:51

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View PostDa_Craw, on Sep 07 2017 - 20:49, said:

Are any of these the variety that fire airsoft rounds?

 

All of them, but that is literally the least interesting aspect about them for me.

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View PostLert, on Sep 07 2017 - 14:31, said:

 

Because it's an overrated, abominably misshapen, malproportioned square box that I have no interest in spending any money on, let alone my entire 'toy' budget for the rest of this year.

Posted Image

 

but.. this is none of those things :(



Lert #20 Posted Sep 08 2017 - 14:13

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View PostYankee, on Sep 08 2017 - 09:47, said:

 

but.. this is none of those things :(

 

That is a nice paint job.

 

I still don't want a Tiger, though.






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