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RedBaronK #21 Posted Sep 08 2017 - 00:53

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View PostMorania, on Sep 07 2017 - 23:45, said:

Sucks, cuz arty lives matter.

 

The type 59G of NA?

 

To be honest I'm surprised it took this long for vigilante arty spree to take place.

 

 



NeroGermanicus #22 Posted Sep 08 2017 - 00:59

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I have a few tarded players do that. Mark em with an X and in the future they may or may not "accidentally" get hit. You mostly see it with noobs that blame arty for bad play. But then you get those that think because they are blue or green think that they are so much better than you. I XMV focus fire on them. Spread the hate and all that.

TVV #23 Posted Sep 08 2017 - 01:18

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I will agree that the team damage mechanic needs to be fixed as soon as arty is subjected to the same team damage rules as everyone else. As it is, it is the class responsible for most team damage, so I find any complaints from arty players ironic to say the least. 

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View Postjohnmadara, on Sep 08 2017 - 00:31, said:

think of how many times you TKed someone while playing arty

 

ZERO.  I've done team damage, yes.  I can't help it when someone runs directly into the big yellow circle I've marked on the ground right before firing and the shell is already in flight.  But ZERO teamkills at this point with arty.  One with my SU-122-44 trying to SAVE an arty, my HE splash got the M41 and the E25 at the same time.  But so far I've completely avoided TKs in my arty.  

Edited by Komitadjie, Sep 08 2017 - 01:21.


TheAquaLung #25 Posted Sep 08 2017 - 01:42

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Not sure about a movement, but I was TK'ed by the other arty player on my team. Just in the few seconds at the end of the match he rams me the shoots me. I guess the timing was right because he didn't turn blue.

Winterpeger #26 Posted Sep 08 2017 - 01:51

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View PostTVV, on Sep 07 2017 - 18:18, said:

I will agree that the team damage mechanic needs to be fixed as soon as arty is subjected to the same team damage rules as everyone else. As it is, it is the class responsible for most team damage, so I find any complaints from arty players ironic to say the least. 

 

and yet vbaddict says that the class responsible for the most team damage for the last 30 days is ....  

 

Damage dealt to team

Tier: All, Type: All, Nation: All, Premium Tanks: All, Server: All, Map: All, Gametype: All, Team: Both, Battles: >1000, Grouped by: Tanks

 



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There was this one player who is known and kind of popular is pub games because of trolling and killing friendly arty.

 

I just don't remember the name of the player. Hopefully, that player is banned already.



Xx1Tommy1xX #28 Posted Sep 08 2017 - 02:02

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View PostWinterpeger, on Sep 07 2017 - 19:51, said:

 

and yet vbaddict says that the class responsible for the most team damage for the last 30 days is ....  

 

Damage dealt to team

Tier: All, Type: All, Nation: All, Premium Tanks: All, Server: All, Map: All, Gametype: All, Team: Both, Battles: >1000, Grouped by: Tanks

 

I honestly didn't see this one coming.



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View PostXx1Tommy1xX, on Sep 08 2017 - 02:02, said:

I honestly didn't see this one coming.

 

If you check by proportion of games played to team damage arty skyrockets. More people own the IS-7 than tier 10 arty pieces. Of course more common tanks have a higher mass value, but the team damage ratio for how uncommon SPGs are is ridiculous.

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View PostRin_, on Sep 08 2017 - 02:10, said:

 

If you check by proportion of games played to team damage arty skyrockets. More people own the IS-7 than tier 10 arty pieces. Of course more common tanks have a higher mass value, but the team damage ratio for how uncommon SPGs are is ridiculous.

 

Given the two or three second flight time on the shells, the huge splash on a lot of the higher tier shells, and the absurdly high RNG on the shots, all combined with the need to fire fairly close to allies if you want to complete any of the "damage while stunned" missions would lead to a fair bit of splash.  Especially when your allies seem quite happy to run right into the big yellow circle... that doesn't really surprise me.  And since they *removed* the "zero splash" option for an arty shell, I'd expect team damage to go way the heck up as people try to do these personal missions.  

 

Still funny to see, you're a lot more likely to take a team-damage shot from something else.  I honestly didn't expect that either.


Edited by Komitadjie, Sep 08 2017 - 02:17.


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View Postjohnmadara, on Sep 08 2017 - 00:31, said:

think of how many times you TKed someone while playing arty

 

Current count: 4.

 

I felt bad about each one of them, but when a shell is in flight and you tell them it's incoming four seconds before it lands, what can you do?  Of course, each time it happened, I was legitimately at an isolated target (not with friendly engaged) and by the time the shell gets there, a friendly has charged the unit, making it back up and guess where they usually end up when they stop?  Yup, right where the bad guy just was.


 

Considering one guy was bragging today on these very forums that he TKd 11 team mates in 5 days, my four of about 5400 SPG games in total (I have about a 30% SPG played rate) my paltry 4 doesn't seem worth mentioning as a sort of "I TK more than you TK" brag, wouldn't you say?


 

I take not shooting or harming my team mates pretty seriously, no matter the unit I play and I always am hopeful that all my team mates feel the same.


 

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commander42 #32 Posted Sep 08 2017 - 02:41

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its not a trend its just a very trolly minority who need to be eradicated(I have only actually seen 3 people do it, one person like 4 times, sidenote he also was one player who cheated for the t-22 as well........), whenever somebody tries doing that the rest of their team needs to take them out, if they get taken out every game too they cant do damage to the red team and it will be easier for them to become blue in the future

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I wonder if we could get wargaming to refund all research, credits spent, and crew XP and take arty out of the game....... I like arty but it just seems like its too much of a hassle to be worth it anymore. I only play it to have fun, and I rarely do more than 2k damage in my BC155 58 with full premium rounds and a 4 skill crew.......

 

Eliminating team damage would just fix a whole slew of crappy problems, there would literally be ZERO TROLLS. Like team chat, they're just going to have to put on their big boy pants and do it.



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This whole "we won't do anything because team damage is automated" is utter crap.  Just got TK'd by our T110E4 at the beginning of battle.  We lost, of course.  

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yes, because your earth-shattering 800 average damage would have carried the team to victory

 

arty is cancer, and there is already enough frustration with idiot teams and corridor maps

 

personally, i would TK arty every game if I could



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View PostWinterpeger, on Sep 07 2017 - 19:51, said:

 

and yet vbaddict says that the class responsible for the most team damage for the last 30 days is ....  

 

Damage dealt to team

Tier: All, Type: All, Nation: All, Premium Tanks: All, Server: All, Map: All, Gametype: All, Team: Both, Battles: >1000, Grouped by: Tanks

 

 

Interesting.  That 183mm HESH splash is real! 

Painbringer71 #37 Posted Sep 08 2017 - 16:37

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People are morons sometimes.  People who [edited]the most about arty would probably learn the most from actually playing them and getting good at it.  You seriously learn on all maps where to not be a dumb [edited]and sit.  You will really find the safe spots and understand the locations that arties cant to hit you from.  It is not leaving the game so [edited]or learn how to deal with them the best you can.  Your choice 

 

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If there is, count me in.

Gang_Starr #39 Posted Sep 08 2017 - 18:27

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Sounds like heaven!

Burning_Haggis #40 Posted Sep 08 2017 - 18:40

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I would post a tongue-in-cheek humor answer, but some grouchy-[edited]mod would send me another nastygram because there are a few (really all of them, but I am not saying that... just thinking it)  that have no ability to understand humor of any form .




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