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Old_Noobette #1 Posted Sep 08 2017 - 21:13

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Hey Guys

Last week my GTX 750 graphics card went bye bye. In a panic i ordered a GTX 1050Ti from BestBuy

Couple questions

A:  Will i see any improvement at all in the game playability?

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B: Is it normal for BestBuy to wait three weeks before shipping a graphics card?

    Im being forced to play with the integrated graphics and its HORRIBLE it will barely do the absolute minimum settings and resolution.

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Viper69 #2 Posted Sep 08 2017 - 21:16

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Cancel the order and get yourself a 1060 or an amd card. I don't think you will get any improvement. Some of video cards are just re branded previous gen cards with tiny changes.



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View PostOld_Noobette, on Sep 08 2017 - 15:13, said:

B: Is it normal for BestBuy to wait three weeks before shipping a graphics card?

 

There are long wait times no matter what distributor you go to, as low-mid range graphics cards are in really high demand now for cryptocurrency mining. Not so much for the nVidia cards as AMD's options are preferred for that, but there's still a huge demand.



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That is of course it's in your budget. 

Old_Noobette #5 Posted Sep 08 2017 - 21:27

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View PostViper69, on Sep 08 2017 - 15:16, said:

Cancel the order and get yourself a 1060 or an amd card. I don't think you will get any improvement. Some of video cards are just re branded previous gen cards with tiny changes.

 

Sadly i tried but because the order is stuck in "Being Prepared" they said i could not cancel it. I actually wanted the 1060, but i was limited by space and a small power supply. It's a little media PC under the TV

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Newegg has a small form factor 1060

Horribad_At_Tanks #7 Posted Sep 08 2017 - 21:47

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View PostOld_Noobette, on Sep 08 2017 - 15:27, said:

 

Sadly i tried but because the order is stuck in "Being Prepared" they said i could not cancel it. I actually wanted the 1060, but i was limited by space and a small power supply. It's a little media PC under the TV

 

A 1060 would most likely not work in that pc and as far as improvement in performance yes the 1050ti is far more powerful than a 750 but it will depend on the cpu in your media pc. If it was already struggling with the 750 then a more powerful card won't help much. Can you tell us what model and brand it is so we can look up its specs? 

 

 



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For future reference on nVidia cards. The cards ending in *50 or *60 are budget cards and generally not as powerful as the previous generations *70 and *80 cards. Now since you're going from a 750 to a 1050, you will see a big improvement as you're advancing 3 generations. Doing a 980 or 1080 would have been a bigger jump IF it was in your budget.

 

ALSO, never EVER buy tech from BestBuy. Use Newegg or Amazon. You will find a much better selection, better prices, and it will ship right away. A 3 week wait is BS.



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View PostIronmike11B, on Sep 08 2017 - 16:28, said:

For future reference on nVidia cards. The cards ending in *50 or *60 are budget cards and generally not as powerful as the previous generations *70 and *80 cards. Now since you're going from a 750 to a 1050, you will see a big improvement as you're advancing 3 generations. Doing a 980 or 1080 would have been a bigger jump IF it was in your budget.

 

ALSO, never EVER buy tech from BestBuy. Use Newegg or Amazon. You will find a much better selection, better prices, and it will ship right away. A 3 week wait is BS.

 

Dunno if I would call the 1060 a budget card as budget usually implies some sacrifice in performance and at 1080p which is the most common gaming resolution it will smoke any game full ultra. Even the 1050ti is more a mid range card over previous generations as it also will do most games 1080p ultra past a few of the really eye candy heavy AAA games which will have you set a few items back to high. Hell the base 1050 will still run 1080p a good detail and frames.

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If you have a Best Buy nearby, they usually have mid range cards on the store shelves and occasionally higher end cards.  

 

Other retailers who'd have one?  No clue.  I hear Fry's is awesome, but I r East Coast and know there is no Fry's joy in my life



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View PostHorribad_At_Tanks, on Sep 08 2017 - 16:25, said:

 

Dunno if I would call the 1060 a budget card as budget usually implies some sacrifice in performance and at 1080p which is the most common gaming resolution it will smoke any game full ultra. Even the 1050ti is more a mid range card over previous generations as it also will do most games 1080p ultra past a few of the really eye candy heavy AAA games which will have you set a few items back to high. Hell the base 1050 will still run 1080p a good detail and frames.

 

It's the budget card for it's generation (the 10 series). Just like the 950/960 was, 850/860, etc. I highly doubt you would you or anyone else would say the 1050 performs at the same level as the 1080 or 1080 Ti.

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Amazon ships really quick, faster than what they advertised. 

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View PostIronmike11B, on Sep 08 2017 - 17:45, said:

 

It's the budget card for it's generation (the 10 series). Just like the 950/960 was, 850/860, etc. I highly doubt you would you or anyone else would say the 1050 performs at the same level as the 1080 or 1080 Ti.

 

Of course not but on a 1080p 60hz screen you won't find any difference in performance between a 1060 or 1080ti. Both are going to run at the 60 fps limit with everything turned all the way up. Its less about level of performance and more about how many pixels do you want to drive with the current gen choices. So if you want to drive a 1440p or 4k screen then sure the 1080 is going to be the one to choose.

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View PostHorribad_At_Tanks, on Sep 08 2017 - 16:57, said:

 

Of course not but on a 1080p 60hz screen you won't find any difference in performance between a 1060 or 1080ti. Both are going to run at the 60 fps limit with everything turned all the way up. Its less about level of performance and more about how many pixels do you want to drive with the current gen choices. So if you want to drive a 1440p or 4k screen then sure the 1080 is going to be the one to choose.

 

Mostly true. 60 fps is not the limit though. I run a EVGA 980 Classified card and am getting around 150 fps. Now we can argue about the eye's ability to perceive high frame rates all day but it's inconsequential. I'm running at 2560x1080 with all bells and whistles turned on. I could go 1440p if my monitor went that high. I'm also running a 2nd monitor off the same card at 1920x1080.

 

The big difference in the cards is how much detail you can turn on at max resolution and not suffer any performance drop.



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View PostIronmike11B, on Sep 08 2017 - 18:09, said:

 

Mostly true. 60 fps is not the limit though. I run a EVGA 980 Classified card and am getting around 150 fps. Now we can argue about the eye's ability to perceive high frame rates all day but it's inconsequential. I'm running at 2560x1080 with all bells and whistles turned on. I could go 1440p if my monitor went that high. I'm also running a 2nd monitor off the same card at 1920x1080.

 

The big difference in the cards is how much detail you can turn on at max resolution and not suffer any performance drop.

 

I didn't say that 60 fps is the limit I stated that the most common monitor for gaming is a 1080p 60hz panel. It would do the owner of that screen no good to buy anything much higher than a 1060 because for him that's a high end card. If he was the owner of a 1440p or 4k screen then sure get the 1070 or 1080 but they won't grant you any better image quality just the ability to drive all those pixels at usable frames. For me 1080p is fine as I can't see the pixels even on a 42" screen so even more pixels wouldn't help.

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View PostHorribad_At_Tanks, on Sep 08 2017 - 16:57, said:

 

Of course not but on a 1080p 60hz screen you won't find any difference in performance between a 1060 or 1080ti. Both are going to run at the 60 fps limit with everything turned all the way up. Its less about level of performance and more about how many pixels do you want to drive with the current gen choices. So if you want to drive a 1440p or 4k screen then sure the 1080 is going to be the one to choose.

 

No matter what, the 1050 or 1060 will get it done. It's still going to max out at 1920x1080. I tend to go a bit bigger when I upgrade but that's just me. I just built 2 new pc for my wife and daughter using 1050 ti cards and they both do well for games like Civ 6 and older FPS.

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View PostIronmike11B, on Sep 08 2017 - 18:19, said:

 

No matter what, the 1050 or 1060 will get it done. It's still going to max out at 1920x1080. I tend to go a bit bigger when I upgrade but that's just me. I just built 2 new pc for my wife and daughter using 1050 ti cards and they both do well for games like Civ 6 and older FPS.

 

I assumed you meant what the eye can perceive. You want to limit your fps to 60 on a 60hz display or you get tearing which gets worse the higher you go over the 60hz limit so the ability to render frames higher than that becomes irrelevant. This goes back to the point that the current gen cards are less about budget or high end and more about what resolution you want to run ultra settings on. Even the plain ole 1050 will do 720p ultra 60 fps if that's the screen size you use so to that user its a high end card.

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View PostHorribad_At_Tanks, on Sep 08 2017 - 17:34, said:

 

I assumed you meant what the eye can perceive. You want to limit your fps to 60 on a 60hz display or you get tearing which gets worse the higher you go over the 60hz limit so the ability to render frames higher than that becomes irrelevant. This goes back to the point that the current gen cards are less about budget or high end and more about what resolution you want to run ultra settings on. Even the plain ole 1050 will do 720p ultra 60 fps if that's the screen size you use so to that user its a high end card.

 

As far as frames go, the eye can perceive up to a point. Anything past that and it's not really necessary other than to smooth some details out.

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View PostHorribad_At_Tanks, on Sep 08 2017 - 15:47, said:

 

A 1060 would most likely not work in that pc and as far as improvement in performance yes the 1050ti is far more powerful than a 750 but it will depend on the cpu in your media pc. If it was already struggling with the 750 then a more powerful card won't help much. Can you tell us what model and brand it is so we can look up its specs? 

 

                      

I know it's older than dirt but...

its a AMD Phenom II x4 550 3.1ghz (all cores unlocked) with 8gb of RAM with a 450w mini PSU ( they stopped making this PSU i hope i won't need to replace it)  and Win7pro

I went ahead and splurged when i bought the 1050ti and bought a SSD, i will be migrating the OS from my 12 year old WD HD to the new SSD. (i hope i see at least some performance increase in program opening time.)

With the gtx750 i could play all but the Maximum settings. At Maximum the frame rate would drop below 30



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Given how dated your cpu is the 1050ti is a good match, for the money the prices are absurd with the mining craze even though that is in decline since the market is a bit of a scam anyway once the bubble bursts.




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