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_Kradok_ #21 Posted Sep 09 2017 - 03:13

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View PostShortcult, on Sep 08 2017 - 19:55, said:

 

Had does that have any relation to the merits of an indirect fire mechanic in a player versus player game?

 

The back & forth is pointless. We won't change one another's minds. I'm good with that. 

 

If arty is removed, I'll quit and spend my disposable income elsewhere. I've played arty since day 1, by the rules, enduring all the moronic opinions as if it's somehow wrong to play their game. I'm banking on the economics... if people like me quit, this game loses a lot of $$$. If people who "hate" arty quit, I don't see it as as much of a hit. 

 

Time will tell. Good luck. 



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Sky cancer is there for lazy and toxic players who want to make the game more toxic for everyone else and is an incredibly dumb game mechanic that can't be countered outright unlike other classes.

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View Post_Kradok_, on Sep 09 2017 - 01:48, said:

Try.... my wallet, and the wallet of those who also enjoy arty,  versus yours and your ilk. Anything else is noise. 

 

Bring it. 

 

Judging by the numbers of premium arty in the game, I'd say WG knows which side of this fence they will be on.

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View Post_Kradok_, on Sep 08 2017 - 18:13, said:

 

The back & forth is pointless. We won't change one another's minds. I'm good with that. 

 

If arty is removed, I'll quit and spend my disposable income elsewhere. I've played arty since day 1, by the rules, enduring all the moronic opinions as if it's somehow wrong to play their game. I'm banking on the economics... if people like me quit, this game loses a lot of $$$. If people who "hate" arty quit, I don't see it as as much of a hit. 

 

Time will tell. Good luck. 

 

Don't want you to quit.  Don't want you to stop playing arty.  Spending money is your own decision, I deride anyone who lambasts you for it or supports it.

 

My point still is, make it optional, but with rules.

 

Ken makes a good point, make every class optional and gather the data to see what it reveals.  The only 'rule' I think I would add to it is to only be able to deselect one class at a time.  Plus a cool down on the choice, else people will be constantly switching and giving the MM a nervous breakdown.

 

Yes, I see it too, if I say only one class deselected at a time I am pointing at one class only.  The option to select more than one would leave lights deselecting everyone but arty.  Maybe that should be a PvE game mode.

 

Want more NA money WG?  Make a competitive game mode.

 



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as a rule, arty stun lasts only half as long as its reload time. 

so if you were stunned for 14 seconds on a miss, you are talking about one of the big [edited]200+ mm guns and they reload for 40+ seconds. 



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View PostSteelRonin, on Sep 09 2017 - 00:37, said:

yeah, yeah, beating the dead horse or whatever those stupid jokes that you use.....actually, is not even close to be a "beating the dead horse" because we still have a chance to success and WG remove the entire class.

 

Yes, you don't get one-shot, but you are perma bombarded with 14 secs stun even in a miss shot...if you have 500 hp, you are going to die by arty hands. They aim much faster, the accuracy is even better, in 2 secs after being spotted you will die, they moved the entire hull, aimed at you in 2 secs.......

 

I remember the old days in wot where Bison tier 2 dominated low tiers and all the matches were arty versus arty..

 

Personally, I won't stop to support the idea of removing arty.

 

 

 

Stop crying like the baby you are .If your getting hit by arty you obviously are clueless and dont use cover...just uninstall instead.

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View PostGonnaBBQU, on Sep 09 2017 - 04:43, said:

 

Stop crying like the baby you are .If your getting hit by arty you obviously are clueless and dont use cover...just uninstall instead.

 

 

 


 

I'm clueless, where is the cover on maps like Desert?



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View Postmuddypuddle, on Sep 08 2017 - 20:56, said:

 

I'm clueless, where is the cover on maps like Desert?

 

We have a map named Desert?

 

Desert maps:

Airfield has hills in the middle and little hills near cap to maneuver and hide around.

El Halluf has a series of small hills to take cover on the 1 line and some that overlook the valley on both sides, plus there's limited cover in the form of a town in the middle of the valley as well as adjoining both caps

Sand River has the hills in the A9, A0, B9, B0 area.  There is the ravine that traverses between both caps in the middle and there's small hills that provide cover on the southern cap, with additional ravines around both south and north caps, plus there are sand dunes that can be used for limited cover in the southwest.

 

Was this what you were talking about?

 



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View PostGonnaBBQU, on Sep 08 2017 - 22:43, said:

 

Stop crying like the baby you are .If your getting hit by arty you obviously are clueless and dont use cover...just uninstall instead.

 

Prok/Fiery Salient has no arty cover.

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View PostSteelRonin, on Sep 09 2017 - 01:37, said:

yeah, yeah, beating the dead horse or whatever those stupid jokes that you use.....actually, is not even close to be a "beating the dead horse" because we still have a chance to success and WG remove the entire class.

 

Yes, you don't get one-shot, but you are perma bombarded with 14 secs stun even in a miss shot...if you have 500 hp, you are going to die by arty hands. They aim much faster, the accuracy is even better, in 2 secs after being spotted you will die, they moved the entire hull, aimed at you in 2 secs.......

 

I remember the old days in wot where Bison tier 2 dominated low tiers and all the matches were arty versus arty..

 

Personally, I won't stop to support the idea of removing arty.

 

 

 

Hmm, How about remove the OP from the game instead?

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View Postfoughtwolf, on Sep 08 2017 - 21:24, said:

 

Judging by the numbers of premium arty in the game, I'd say WG knows which side of this fence they will be on.

 

I find it amusing you think I only own prem arty. 

 

BT-SV,  kV5, IS3A, Defender, Liberté, Patriot, Skorpion, Jagdtiger 8,8, scorpion, Berlín Quartet, E25, AT15A, Pz Hydro, German bulldog, etc....  + more at 4-6 than I care to count. Prem time kept on for 3 years solid, and many many conversions of gold. Literally hundreds in gifted tanks to friends/clanmates...and my 20 tier tens & counting..... 

 

That's my investment. Not 'just' the Sexton 1 and the leFH. 

 

I'm banking on them knowing EXACTLY which side of the fence to fall. 


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"Nerf the alpha!" You haters screamed. 

 

They did.

 

you got what you said you wanted. Careful what you ask for. 

 

Selfish fekkers. 



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View PostKenshin2kx, on Sep 08 2017 - 19:19, said:

 

I'm okay with that ... and I propose the 'choice' of option boxes ... like Grand Battles.  That way, NO ONE is a hostage to another's selfish desire ... after all whats the point of play if you have to FORCE others to play with you?

I want a box to never be bottom tier in my T8 tanks again.  I don't like T10 players FORCING me to play with them. (See how easily your argument can be extended to other things with no effort to stretch it)  It could also be extended to things like premium ammo, superheavies, pre made platoons, etc.



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View Post_Kradok_, on Sep 09 2017 - 12:57, said:

 

I find it amusing you think I only own prem arty. 

 

BT-SV,  kV5, IS3A, Defender, Liberté, Patriot, Skorpion, Jagdtiger 8,8, scorpion, Berlín Quartet, E25, AT15A, Pz Hydro, German bulldog, etc....  + more at 4-6 than I care to count. Prem time kept on for 3 years solid, and many many conversions of gold. Literally hundreds in gifted tanks to friends/clanmates...and my 20 tier tens & counting..... 

 

That's my investment. Not 'just' the Sexton 1 and the leFH. 

 

I'm banking on them knowing EXACTLY which side of the fence to fall. 

 

So do most players. Most players have a pretty hefty garage budget in this game.

 

And most dont play this easy mode, scum class line for the slow children either.

 

Hell, I'd PAY WG to take your arty. 



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View Post_Kradok_, on Sep 09 2017 - 05:57, said:

 

I find it amusing you think I only own prem arty. 

 

BT-SV,  kV5, IS3A, Defender, Liberté, Patriot, Skorpion, Jagdtiger 8,8, scorpion, Berlín Quartet, E25, AT15A, Pz Hydro, German bulldog, etc....  + more at 4-6 than I care to count. Prem time kept on for 3 years solid, and many many conversions of gold. Literally hundreds in gifted tanks to friends/clanmates...and my 20 tier tens & counting..... 

 

That's my investment. Not 'just' the Sexton 1 and the leFH. 

 

I'm banking on them knowing EXACTLY which side of the fence to fall. 

 

​You missed his point. He's saying WG doesn't sell premium arty because WG doesn't want anymore arty in the game. When was the last time they added an arty line?

ianizor1000 #37 Posted Sep 09 2017 - 17:59

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View PostThornir, on Sep 09 2017 - 06:30, said:

"Nerf the alpha!" You haters screamed. 

 

They did.

 

you got what you said you wanted. Careful what you ask for. 

 

Selfish fekkers. 

 

​You act as though it was acceptable to be nuked for 1500 damage from across the map, over cover.

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View PostGonnaBBQU, on Sep 09 2017 - 00:43, said:

 

Stop crying like the baby you are .If your getting hit by arty you obviously are clueless and dont use cover...just uninstall instead.

 

You are right, I am a noob with 43% win rate, please teach me how to play. I will be here to hear your tips ;)

 

View PostTahllol, on Sep 09 2017 - 02:37, said:

 

Hmm, How about remove the OP from the game instead?

 

Removing the Original Post, why?, I am not violating the EULA or the forum rules...Do i?

_Kradok_ #39 Posted Sep 09 2017 - 20:23

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View Postianizor1000, on Sep 09 2017 - 11:57, said:

 

​You missed his point. He's saying WG doesn't sell premium arty because WG doesn't want anymore arty in the game. When was the last time they added an arty line?

 

YOU missed MY point. It's a matter of economics. Your opinion why they don't do this or that means caca compared to the dollars when they flow. 

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View Post_Kradok_, on Sep 09 2017 - 13:23, said:

 

YOU missed MY point. It's a matter of economics. Your opinion why they don't do this or that means caca compared to the dollars when they flow. 

 

​And if WG thought there would be dollars to be had from introducing premium arty or another arty line, they would have done so. 




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