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ArtofTanks #21 Posted Sep 15 2017 - 17:01

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View PostWinningWithWarchild, on Sep 15 2017 - 04:37, said:

 

Tier level, Tank Type & XVM/Player list.

 

 

Yeah.  If I choose to play arty and my team fails horribly and dies, you're right it's all my fault.  Yet, I count that as unwinnable.

 

No because that would be a different tank entirely.  What if I picked a Tiger I but used the 105 howitzer that the pz4h gets at tier 5 instead of the long 88?  Whose fault would that be?  Or the Pershing and use the tier 5 M4's 76mm, but had the top gun unlocked, is that unwinnable because of my choice or not?

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View PostWinningWithWarchild, on Sep 15 2017 - 04:45, said:

 

Yes, but that's besides the point.  I said my UR is "around" 45%. I know math might be a tough one for you, but 1% off of 45 is 44.  Additionally, I've only kept around 2,300 screenshots, so there are around a 1,000 more that I don't have to base my estimate off of.  Of the 2,300, around 45% are games where I couldn't win no matter what happened.  It might be my tier, my tank choice, whatever.  If you're telling me 100% of your games are winnable, good for you man.  For the rest of us, there is an unwinnable % of games - some say it's 25%.  I say mine is around 45%.

 

I'd be willing to bet my math skills are much better than yours.  But it must be awesome for you, because you claim to win every single game that's winnable.

WinningWithWarchild #23 Posted Sep 15 2017 - 22:56

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View PostRake, on Sep 15 2017 - 14:46, said:

 

I'd be willing to bet my math skills are much better than yours.  But it must be awesome for you, because you claim to win every single game that's winnable.

 

It's all in the name...

 

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WinningWithWarchild #24 Posted Sep 15 2017 - 23:09

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I'm not going to discuss this topic anymore since we seem to be looping round and round.  

Rake #25 Posted Sep 16 2017 - 12:47

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View PostWinningWithWarchild, on Sep 15 2017 - 17:09, said:

I'm not going to discuss this topic anymore since we seem to be looping round and round.

 

Just admit you made a silly statement, because you did.  The thing is, assuming your statement is accurate about analyzing the other team to determine your strategy, if more people could actually do that it would make the game better.  I personally don't think that's in my skill set.  Your comments relating to your chosen title for this thread are what are silly.

WinningWithWarchild #26 Posted Sep 16 2017 - 20:11

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View PostWinningWithWarchild, on Sep 15 2017 - 16:09, said:

I'm not going to discuss this topic anymore since we seem to be looping round and round.  

 

I don't understand what happened with this post.  I wrote 3 paragraphs of information and one of the last lines was this sentence.  With I hit "post" the whole thing appeared and I moved on.  When I come back, this is the only sentence out of that whole thing that I see (and you see).

 

View PostRake, on Sep 16 2017 - 05:47, said:

 

Just admit you made a silly statement, because you did.  The thing is, assuming your statement is accurate about analyzing the other team to determine your strategy, if more people could actually do that it would make the game better.  I personally don't think that's in my skill set.  Your comments relating to your chosen title for this thread are what are silly.

 

Can you win 100% of your games?



Rake #27 Posted Sep 17 2017 - 03:38

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View PostWinningWithWarchild, on Sep 16 2017 - 14:11, said:

 

I don't understand what happened with this post.  I wrote 3 paragraphs of information and one of the last lines was this sentence.  With I hit "post" the whole thing appeared and I moved on.  When I come back, this is the only sentence out of that whole thing that I see (and you see).

 

 

Can you win 100% of your games?

 

Nope.  But I'm not the one making silly statements that 45% are unwinnable, especially when you're only losing 44%.

WinningWithWarchild #28 Posted Sep 17 2017 - 07:25

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View PostRake, on Sep 16 2017 - 20:38, said:

 

Nope.  But I'm not the one making silly statements that 45% are unwinnable, especially when you're only losing 44%.

 

I have data to back up my number for approx 2,300 battles.  Why are you afraid to put a number out there?  I looked mine up, reviewed it, and came up with an accurate percentage.  You're looking at my most recent winrate.  And although I am getting better, there are still a large number of unwinnable games.  I understand you don't track your stuff like I do, so I don't fault you for not being able to come up with something.  But don't fault me or call it "silly" when you don't have a clue.  If you don't understand it, you should just move on.  Best of luck to you!

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View PostWinningWithWarchild, on Sep 17 2017 - 16:25, said:

 

I have data to back up my number for approx 2,300 battles.  Why are you afraid to put a number out there?  I looked mine up, reviewed it, and came up with an accurate percentage.  You're looking at my most recent winrate.  And although I am getting better, there are still a large number of unwinnable games.  I understand you don't track your stuff like I do, so I don't fault you for not being able to come up with something.  But don't fault me or call it "silly" when you don't have a clue.  If you don't understand it, you should just move on.  Best of luck to you!

 

You don't have data

 

Your methods are questionable, your quantification is entirely subjective and your experiment is internally biased. Also your conclusion directly contradicts the outcome.

 

 

Stop pretending that you know anything about 'research', 'statistics' and 'data' and just state your OPINIONS as being formed on your experience. You keep saying that you 'look up' your unwinnable rate like it is a real stat that has been accepted by the community but it is just a fabrication to support the delusion that you are performing as well as the game allows you.

 

Don't make excuses, the game is not rigged against you, the game is not so team dependent that only 5% of your losses are your fault.



WinningWithWarchild #30 Posted Sep 18 2017 - 08:43

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You're so right.  Everyone can win 100% of their games.  Which is why there are so many 80% and 90% players.  How foolish of me to quantify the percentage of games where I failed to carry...in my arty...when I was low tier...and most of my team was red...

 

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None of my games are unwinnable.  There are games where I win, and far more games where I failed to make the right moves.

 

This thread is silly.



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Yes, win rate is way too over rated.  also, someone that can carry a team is only luck.  Even the best players get knock out.  It takes 15 players not 1. just do the best you can and hope that the team does the same.

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View Post_Tsavo, on Sep 18 2017 - 04:22, said:

None of my games are unwinnable.  There are games where I win, and far more games where I failed to make the right moves.

 

This thread is silly.

 

It was intended as silly.  People talk about winrates so much, I thought I'd spice it up a bit ;)





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