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g4143 #1 Posted Sep 19 2017 - 01:53

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For all the people who read about the AMX 50 100 and read great things... The things you read are greatly exaggerated.

 

About AMX 50 100's speed being that of a medium tank. Well I can tell you that is greatly exaggerate​d because I'm consistently being passed by heavy tanks, medium tanks, light tanks, tank destroyers and artillery. BTW I have the best engine for this tank.

 

About AMX 50 100's mobility being that of a medium tank. Well I can tell you that is greatly exaggerate​d because I'm consistently being out maneuvered by heavy tanks, medium tanks, light tanks.

 

About the great 90 mm DCA 45 ​ gun. A mere peashooter in tier 8, 9 and 10 matches.

 

The famous lack of good amour. Well this is not exaggerated​. In this department the AMX 50 100 is plagued with not only bad amour but a large silhouette and low camo values and this is a tank which can be damaged/destroyed by harsh language from a tier 5 light tank.

 

The famous AMX 50 100 advice - Hold back and wait before you attack.. Doesn't matter because any/all tanks on the battle field can still take you

out with one shot and the tanks that usually make it into the latter half of the battle are the ones AMX 50 100's have problems with - hidden tank destroyers.

 

The autoloader? Basically a false sense of security because you can't expose yourself long enough 'in most situations to use it' without exploding from any tank's shot.

 

Basically AMX 50 100 is comparable to a large jeep with a mediocre gun. So is it worth the grind? Nope. 

 

One French tank that's never considered Is the tier 5 Renault G1 with the derp gun - 105 mm court mle. 1934. I find this tank to be a joy to ride around in.

 


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Amx tanks are high skill cap tanks which means good players can excel in them but lower in skilled players will struggle to make them work. Usually these types of tanks favor good decision making in battles but greatly punish mistakes. Bad players will do worse than normal and good players will excel in these tanks. Generally they are mobile tanks with firepower that fall into this category such as light tanks and medium tanks and the faster heavies.

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PEBKAC.

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View PostDoomslinger, on Sep 19 2017 - 02:02, said:

Amx tanks are high skill cap tanks which means good players can excel in them but lower in skilled players will struggle to make them work. Usually these types of tanks favor good decision making in battles but greatly punish mistakes. Bad players will do worse than normal and good players will excel in these tanks. Generally they are mobile tanks with firepower that fall into this category such as light tanks and medium tanks and the faster heavies.

 

​I find that to be a lame excuse because any good tank operator could make a bad tank look good too. Remember the mobility is greatly exaggerated and the firepower is mediocre and the amour is terrible.  

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View Postg4143, on Sep 19 2017 - 02:05, said:

 

​I find that to be a lame excuse because any good tank operator could make a bad tank look good too.

 

The problem is that you are only doing 190 dpg

Post some replays and people might be able to help you.

I can assure you, the problem is not the tank. Its your play ability.



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just some practice and time man. Try sticking to a bit of lower tier and understand core gameplay before playing tier 8 autoloading heavies.

 

Try tier 4-5 until then.



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View Postg4143, on Sep 19 2017 - 01:05, said:

 

​I find that to be a lame excuse because any good tank operator could make a bad tank look good too. Remember the mobility is greatly exaggerated and the firepower is mediocre and the amour is terrible.  

 

yes but a not skilled tank operator can't make a good tank look good. Some people make the maus look bad.

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View Postsimba90, on Sep 19 2017 - 02:06, said:

 

The problem is that you are only doing 190 dpg

Post some replays and people might be able to help you.

I can assure you, the problem is not the tank. Its your play ability.

 

​But you are saying its a good tank but it fails to produce any good numbers in the categories which measure a good tank. Amour - bad. Mobility - poor. Gun - the best thing to be said is its mediocre.

 

The problem with the AMX 50 100 is that its a bad medium tank and a bad heavy tank.


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Its clip potential can clip most tier 8s.

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It's not the tank, it's you.

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View PostSilverEaglewing, on Sep 19 2017 - 02:12, said:

Its clip potential can clip most tier 8s.

 

​But you can't use this potential without exploding. This best thing that could be said about the AMX 50 100 - is its a scavenger that goes around the battle field looking for one shot kills hoping it doesn't come across anything which can shoot back.

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View Postg4143, on Sep 19 2017 - 01:17, said:

 

​But you can't use this potential without exploding. This best thing that could be said about the AMX 50 100 is its a scavenger that goes around the battle field looking for one shot kills hoping it doesn't come across anything which can shoot back.

 

that works in late battle, at the start play second line support, remember u can out trade an opponent at the same tier. 1 shot for 6. Expose urself the least possible but still enough to be dealing damage.

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50 100 was my first tier 8 when I had like 4000 battles, oh god I was bad at it.

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View PostF_Type, on Sep 19 2017 - 02:14, said:

It's not the tank, it's you.

 

​How can the performance of the tank be me? I can only put available engines in it. I can only put the available guns on it. I can only have the available amour.

 

This is what makes the AMX 50 100 so disappointing. The docs/reviews don't reflect the tank you get.


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View Postg4143, on Sep 18 2017 - 20:35, said:

 

​I find that to be a lame excuse because any good tank operator could make a bad tank look good too. Remember the mobility is greatly exaggerated and the firepower is mediocre and the amour is terrible.  

 

how can someone, at all, take you seriously. This isn't the right way you are going on and through, with WoT.

 

AMX5O1OO is undoubtedly the second fastest tier 8 heavy, and essentially rivals the fastest, FCM5OT. For less HP/T and track traverse and turret traverse, it has better terrain resistances which allows it to cover bad ground types easier. Make no mistake, AMX destroys other 'fast' heavy tanks, in terms of reactiveness, speed, agility;  such as lS3, Patroit, VK45A, Liberte, Chrysler, 111. There s no comparison at all. Just the FCM5OT. And in addition, it will move quicker than a few medium tanks too, you just don't see it.

 

Are you even elite? You are talking about its mid-gun, the DCA 45 9cm, which isn't the top SA47 1Ocm, which means arguing things is moot if you aren't elite. Are your crew one-hundred percent, BlA'ed? Do you have lmproved Vents?

 

l understand forums are a great place to vent frustration, but please at least try to sound remotely believeable and argumentative. 



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View Postg4143, on Sep 19 2017 - 01:20, said:

 

​How can the performance of the tank be me? I can only put the best engine in it. I can only put the available guns on it. I can only have the available amour.

Hes saying ur skillcap isn't high enough for tier 8s, I was at that point and maybe even worst when I had 2k battles, just practice at lower tiers and practice exposing urself at right times. You will get better man.



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View Post_PM, on Sep 19 2017 - 02:20, said:

50 100 was my first tier 8 when I had like 4000 battles, oh god I was bad at it.

 

​Or... The tank was bad.

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At less than 2400 battles, you don't have a solid understanding of game mechanics, positioning, etc to play higher tier tanks successfully, nevermind something that requires a lot of skill like a 50 100. My suggestion is to watch lots and lots of youtube vids and live streamers. Maybe set the tank aside for a while and grind out a more traditional heavy line. 

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View Postg4143, on Sep 19 2017 - 02:11, said:

 

​But you are saying its a good tank but it fails to produce any good numbers in the categories which measure a good tank. Amour - bad. Mobility - poor. Gun - the best thing to be said is its mediocre.

 

The problem with the AMX 50 100 is that its a bad medium tank and a bad heavy tank.

 

No, I'm disagreeing with you.

I say it's a good tank because it actually does have a good gun (Good shell velocity, and pen/ reasonable accuracy and excellent clip potential) and the mobility is also very good for a T8 heavy tank.

You have fallen into the oldest trick of this game that getting a higher tier tank will make you better.

The higher tier you go, the better your opponents get.

I suggest drop back to T5 and learn the maps and penetration mechanics.

Your stats tell me that you take ~4.5 shots per game but only pen less than 1 a game.

Are you shooting AP or HE?



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View PostSilverEaglewing, on Sep 19 2017 - 02:23, said:

Hes saying ur skillcap isn't high enough for tier 8s, I was at that point and maybe even worst when I had 2k battles, just practice at lower tiers and practice exposing urself at right times. You will get better man.

 

​You have to understand this is a tier 8 heavy tank that can be one shot killed by a tier 5 light tank.




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