24 replies to this topic

[Matrix_Enforcer]

The developers of this game have surely made it worthless to play above tier 7 and this rigged gaming is just crap. 

 

I just finished playing a tier 8 T28-Prot game. We won the game and I did sustain some damage, but not a lot. I got 3 kills in it. Here are the stats,

 

Total Damage Caused	1,550
Damage blocked	2,280
Received	+18,077
Repair Vehicle	-2,107
Resupply Ammo	-10,440
Resupply Consumables	-6,000
Total awarded	-470

 

It was not worth playing the game at that level and this change has been within this last year. It was not like this last year. They have purposely penalized us for not buying their premium. With Premium I would have,

 

Received:  +27,116

Total Awarded:  + 8,569

 

At the lower tiers, even losing a game or getting destroyed, I would still get something out of it. 

 

Not everyone can afford to spend money to line these greedy developers pockets. The least we should have gotten something from the win and survival, even if it would be low. Instead, we have to pay money to get a "+" outcome, otherwise, we will loose more and more playing without premium, even if we win and we are not always going to get 5-9 kills a game all the time either. 

 

This game has gotten worst and leans the game toward wallet warriors. Us grinders have little to no chance to play tier 8 and above. 

 

What else have they done?

 

They have made a premium tank virtually useless. When I bought it, the armor was quite good, now it barely plays even with the other tanks. They nerfed the premium tank and that showed me that it is not worth buying any tank from them when they pull crap like that. 

 

If they are going to nerf a premium tank, either by changing it directly or making other tanks more capable against it, then the premium tank owner should get some in-game reimbursement for the nerf. 

 

 

 

 

[Xeraux]

You did barely less than four shots worth. And not to tier eights, I would think. 

Your credits are linked to your damage. Not a great game, not great credits. 

[CanadianGuitar]

Block Quote

 Not everyone can afford to spend money to line these greedy developers pockets.

 

The game is FREE.

[eisen1973]

Buying consumables when they are on sale will save you a lot of credits. In this case, that alone would have brought positive numbers.

[CanadianGuitar]

eisen1973, on Sep 18 2017 - 21:01, said:

Buying consumables when they are on sale will save you a lot of credits. In this case, that alone would have brought positive numbers.

 

Who buys them? They give out so many I have a stockpile I'll never burn through.

[simba90]

This game doesn't penalize for not having premiums.

It rewards you for having it.

[The_Goblin_King]

So don't play tier 8 and above. I find mid tier games to be a lot of fun.

[eisen1973]

CanadianGuitar, on Sep 19 2017 - 00:02, said:

 

Who buys them? They give out so many I have a stockpile I'll never burn through.

 

Exactly, I was writing in another of this "fix your economy" post that there are lots of ways of making credits now (or saving them).

[Cenotaph]

You seem painfully unaware of why the economy is set up that way.

 

Ponder this, if it didn't start taking good games to turn a profit at tier 8... and you could fail your way to tier 10 without losing credits, how long until the entire server only plays tier 10?

 

And if you can't extrapolate why that would be bad... imagine being a new player, or trying out a new tank line, only to find out that literally next to nobody was playing anything under tier 8.

 

People would never get matches, and the game would die.

 

Tier 4-6 is designed to be the most profitable for tech tree tanks, so that there is always a decent number of mid tiers queue'd.

 

Pretty much the only acceptable complaint about top tier economy is that it was designed before 3/5/7... causing tier 8's to have less tier 10's to farm.

[Dands]

CanadianGuitar, on Sep 19 2017 - 15:00, said:

 

The game is FREE.

 

Do you think there's ever a limit to the amount of profit WG makes versus destroying the game for non premium players?

 

Make the game subscription only and then I'll be happy. You?

[the_Deadly_Bulb]

Dands, on Sep 18 2017 - 23:28, said:

 

Do you think there's ever a limit to the amount of profit WG makes versus destroying the game for non premium players?

 

Make the game subscription only and then I'll be happy. You?

 

No to both.

 

[Doomslinger]

It's set up to so you have to play better at higher tiers to profit or have a premium account or both. I never had any problems making money with my proto even when I had a non prem account, it still profited overall. Sure there would be battles where I lost money but the ones I profit on outnumbered the cred loss battles. That was with non prem account. With prem account, I rarely lose money in it. I found the T30 would make money in most battles as well. I guess the high alpha and high pen shells help it to make more money than most other higher tier tanks.

[MagillaGuerilla]

They need to make money like every other company, if we want them to stay in business.

[dont_ping_me]

Would you like them to give you food stamps as well?

[General_Lee_Miserable]

When WG has the year of premium time for 50$ around Thanksgiving, get it. Problem solved. 

[dnaman]

Lesser_Spotted_Panzer, on Sep 19 2017 - 05:07, said:

Would you like them to give you food stamps as well?

 

What an absolutely moronic statement!  They are getting money from people who willingly pay.  That's a whole lot different from taking tax money from people who are forced to pay it.  Utter stupidity on display here...

[GeisterKatze]

CanadianGuitar, on Sep 19 2017 - 00:00, said:

 

The game is FREE.

 

The game is free.  Having a reasonably-enjoyable amount of satisfaction progressing through the tech-trees and completing missions is not free if you're just an average player.  I don't mind paying a bit for premium time now and then in order to get a little more out of the game.  I also know that even though I've worked through several tech-trees, I'm still a(barely) average player.  I find that I'm successful more consistently at mid tiers, and so I play many of my games around tiers VI and VII because I make most of my credits there.  I also have the most consistent fun playing at those tiers.  I play my tier Xs, and sometimes I do reasonably well in them.  I play my tier VIIIs, and I find I work harder to be successful with them then any other tier.  I accept that.

Find where you have fun, and spend most of your time there! 

[Nonamanadus]

The higher the tier the better you need to play in order to make a profit, the margins are lower on a standard account/tank but you still can make money. I did that with my E100 & JgPz E100. 

[GeorgePreddy]

eisen1973, on Sep 19 2017 - 02:01, said:

Buying consumables when they are on sale will save you a lot of credits. In this case, that alone would have brought positive numbers.

 

This is basic. I have a prem acct. but I still buy consumables only when they are on sale. If you choose to play for free, at least use your head and buy consumables in bulk when on sale !

 

Would have saved you 3k credits in the game you posted.

[Bryukov]

Lesser_Spotted_Panzer, on Sep 19 2017 - 07:07, said:

Would you like them to give you food stamps as well?

 

Now there's a good idea! I get hungry when I play...