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CabbageMechanic #1 Posted Oct 03 2017 - 02:01

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We’ve got some news from the Super test – we’ll tell more about new settings of the vehicles that have already been on the Super test.

 

  1. FV4202 – we rolled back turret armor to 9.20 values. The statistics data has shown overly high battle performance on the Common Test and we have decided to test its updated version without improved armor. We’ll see how it goes and will decide whether to release it on the 2nd Common test or not.
     
  2. New British TD-10 has got its name: FV217 Badger. Besides its name, the Badger will get improved front armor and increased alpha-damage, at the same time its damage per minute will remain the same as in the previous version – we’ll fix its rate of fire. The mobility will be changed as well: maximum speed will be decreased, but the dynamics will be improved – the TD will better keep and gather the speed.
     
  3. ELC EVEN: there will be significant changes with this very small French tank. We’ll review its autoloader settings: will reduce the number of shells in it, but will improve the reloading time within the autoloader and for the autoloader itself. The gun’s damage will be fixed as well.
     
  4. Caernarvon Action X – British premium heavy will undergo some small changes. This gentleman will get increased HP and damage per minute. We hope that further it’ll show true effectiveness in battle.
     
  5. Somua SM – armored British autoloader tank will have its mobility revised: we’ll decrease its maximum speed, but will increase its engine power. As the results, it’ll better keep and gather the speed.

     


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View PostCabbageMechanic, on Oct 02 2017 - 17:01, said:

We’ve got some news from the Super test – we’ll tell more about new settings of the vehicles that have already been on the Super test.

 

  1. FV4202 – we rolled back turret armor to 9.20 values. The statistics data has shown overly high battle performance on the Common Test and we have decided to test its updated version without improved armor. We’ll see how it goes and will decide whether to release it on the 2nd Common test or not.
     
  2. New British TD-10 has got its name: FV217 Badger. Besides its name, the Badger will get improved front armor and increased alpha-damage, at the same time its damage per minute will remain the same as in the previous version – we’ll fix its rate of fire. The mobility will be changed as well: maximum speed will be decreased, but the dynamics will be improved – the TD will better keep and gather the speed.
     
  3. ELC EVEN: there will be significant changes with this very small French tank. We’ll review its autoloader settings: will reduce the number of shells in it, but will improve the reloading time within the autoloader and for the autoloader itself. The gun’s damage will be fixed as well.
     
  4. Caernarvon Action X – British premium heavy will undergo some small changes. This gentleman will get increased HP and damage per minute. We hope that further it’ll show true effectiveness in battle.
     
  5. Somua SM – armored British autoloader tank will have its mobility revised: we’ll decrease its maximum speed, but will increase its engine power. As the results, it’ll better keep and gather the speed.

     

 

Finally! An update on the British heavy line.

 

Is that Caernarvon Action X a tier-VIII?


Edited by BaconMeLoveIt, Oct 03 2017 - 02:13.


CabbageMechanic #3 Posted Oct 03 2017 - 02:16

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View PostBaconMeLoveIt, on Oct 02 2017 - 17:13, said:

 

Finally! An update on the British heavy line.

 

Is that Caernarvon Action X a tier-VIII?

 

It is indeed, here's some more on it (stats are pre-buff mentioned above):


Edited by CabbageMechanic, Oct 03 2017 - 02:16.


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View PostCabbageMechanic, on Oct 02 2017 - 18:01, said:

We’ve got some news from the Super test – we’ll tell more about new settings of the vehicles that have already been on the Super test.

 

  1. FV4202 – we rolled back turret armor to 9.20 values. The statistics data has shown overly high battle performance on the Common Test and we have decided to test its updated version without improved armor. We’ll see how it goes and will decide whether to release it on the 2nd Common test or not.
     
  2. New British TD-10 has got its name: FV217 Badger. Besides its name, the Badger will get improved front armor and increased alpha-damage, at the same time its damage per minute will remain the same as in the previous version – we’ll fix its rate of fire. The mobility will be changed as well: maximum speed will be decreased, but the dynamics will be improved – the TD will better keep and gather the speed.
     
  3. ELC EVEN: there will be significant changes with this very small French tank. We’ll review its autoloader settings: will reduce the number of shells in it, but will improve the reloading time within the autoloader and for the autoloader itself. The gun’s damage will be fixed as well.
     
  4. Caernarvon Action X – British premium heavy will undergo some small changes. This gentleman will get increased HP and damage per minute. We hope that further it’ll show true effectiveness in battle.
     
  5. Somua SM – armored British autoloader tank will have its mobility revised: we’ll decrease its maximum speed, but will increase its engine power. As the results, it’ll better keep and gather the speed.

     

 

59-16 autoloader back plz =(

 

nerf it if u must (with 85pen it was already pretty nerfed....but meh.  remove a shell from its clip. whatever)

 

but bring it back......all the tier 6 lights are so similar its sickening...

59-16's autoloader with low pen, high dpm made it unique

as did vk 28's derp



mlinke #5 Posted Oct 03 2017 - 02:42

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U rolled back fv4202 armor??? It is useless anyway!! Take gun and engine while you are at it and paint it brite yellow!! Why are you trying to ruin ever y tank in the game?? You really want us to quit?

Edited by mlinke, Oct 03 2017 - 02:43.


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View PostStrike_Witch_Tomoko, on Oct 03 2017 - 01:22, said:

 

59-16 autoloader back plz =(

 

nerf it if u must (with 85pen it was already pretty nerfed....but meh.  remove a shell from its clip. whatever)

 

but bring it back......all the tier 6 lights are so similar its sickening...

59-16's autoloader with low pen, high dpm made it unique

as did vk 28's derp

 

mt 25 autoloader pla

SilverEaglewing #7 Posted Oct 03 2017 - 03:22

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View Postmlinke, on Oct 03 2017 - 01:42, said:

U rolled back fv4202 armor??? It is useless anyway!! Take gun and engine while you are at it and paint it brite yellow!! Why are you trying to ruin ever y tank in the game?? You really want us to quit?

Quiy crying with 40k battles don't you have other prems. Also having more than 1 ! in a row makes things less important and looks childish.



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View PostSilverEaglewing, on Oct 02 2017 - 19:17, said:

 

mt 25 autoloader pla

 

mt-25's was an autocannon with how fast it fired.

 

and agreed =D



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i thought the Somua SM was a French autoloading heavy tank? Is it a British one now? 

 

 



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View Postmlinke, on Oct 02 2017 - 15:42, said:

U rolled back fv4202 armor??? It is useless anyway!! Take gun and engine while you are at it and paint it brite yellow!! Why are you trying to ruin ever y tank in the game?? You really want us to quit?

The level of salt here.

It was over performing in the test reverted turret armor to 9.20

They'll see how it does in the 2nd iteration before they change things....but let's cry wolf and the end of the world. 

 

R.I.P. instant gratification crowd. 



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View Postdir32jd, on Oct 02 2017 - 21:40, said:

i thought the Somua SM was a French autoloading heavy tank? Is it a British one now? 

 

I believe that's a typo/error in the original post.


CabbageMechanic, I assume that the FV4202 is not getting its engine upgrade either - what is the situation there? 



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Well I guess the FV4202 will keep gathering dust in my hangar then. Pretty surprising that giving it turret armor similar to a Type 59 would make it OP. Maybe if it was Russian having that turret armor would be ok?

 

I'd like to see some data from Supertest. It would be way more useful than the Supertesters' opinion. Example: whats the tanking factor of the FV4202 with the turret armor? How does that compare to other tier 8 meds?

 

Of course, we'll never know - unless the WG NA staff ask for the data on our behalf.

 

 :ohmy:



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Good! You rolled back the FV4202's silly armor buff. Now you can buff the things that actually need buffing: gun handling and DPM. And then you can do the same for the Centurions: not armor buffs but gun handling and DPM buffs.

Edited by Avalon304, Oct 03 2017 - 08:02.


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View PostCabbageMechanic, on Oct 03 2017 - 02:01, said:

We’ve got some news from the Super test – we’ll tell more about new settings of the vehicles that have already been on the Super test.

 

  1. FV4202 – we rolled back turret armor to 9.20 values. The statistics data has shown overly high battle performance on the Common Test and we have decided to test its updated version without improved armor. We’ll see how it goes and will decide whether to release it on the 2nd Common test or not.
     
  2. New British TD-10 has got its name: FV217 Badger. Besides its name, the Badger will get improved front armor and increased alpha-damage, at the same time its damage per minute will remain the same as in the previous version – we’ll fix its rate of fire. The mobility will be changed as well: maximum speed will be decreased, but the dynamics will be improved – the TD will better keep and gather the speed.
     
  3. ELC EVEN: there will be significant changes with this very small French tank. We’ll review its autoloader settings: will reduce the number of shells in it, but will improve the reloading time within the autoloader and for the autoloader itself. The gun’s damage will be fixed as well.
     
  4. Caernarvon Action X – British premium heavy will undergo some small changes. This gentleman will get increased HP and damage per minute. We hope that further it’ll show true effectiveness in battle.
     
  5. Somua SM – armored British autoloader tank will have its mobility revised: we’ll decrease its maximum speed, but will increase its engine power. As the results, it’ll better keep and gather the speed.

     

 

Block Quote

 improved front armor

 

>304mm is not enough

 

THIS IS GETTING BETTER AND BETTER



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View PostAvalon304, on Oct 03 2017 - 02:02, said:

Good! You rolled back the FV4202's silly armor buff. Now you can buff the things that actually need buffing: gun handling and DPM. And then you can do the same for the Centurions: not armor buffs but gun handling and DPM buffs.

 

I don't know if I would say it is "silly" but the message I would want the devs to receive is that we think they are buffing THE WRONG THINGS on these tanks and the refusal to look at the actual weak aspects of the vehicles and fix them is maddening. 

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View PostCabbageMechanic, on Oct 03 2017 - 02:01, said:

 

 

Caernarvon Action X – British premium heavy will undergo some small changes. This gentleman will get increased HP and damage per minute. We hope that further it’ll show true effectiveness in battle.

 

Give it all the HP and DPM you want. No one is going to buy a T8 heavy tank, that will see T10 tanks often, if it only has 230 alpha. 



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View PostFrozenKemp, on Oct 03 2017 - 08:00, said:

 

I don't know if I would say it is "silly" but the message I would want the devs to receive is that we think they are buffing THE WRONG THINGS on these tanks and the refusal to look at the actual weak aspects of the vehicles and fix them is maddening. 

 

I mean... it is silly though. Its a medium tank. It doesnt need to be well armored to perform the role that even WG says its well suited to.

 

From the 9.20.1 Vehicle Rebalances article:

 

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 British medium tanks seem cutout for mid-range support. They pack a great mix of powerful guns, decent gun depression, view range and stabilization. Hide behind a hill, find an unaware enemy, and pincushion them with shells.

 

2nd line support ("mid-range" ). Powerful guns (7/1 qualifies, less so for the Mk. 1 and 4202, but they arent the worst guns). Decent gun depression (yep). view range (yep). Stabilization (lol wat?). But the description of the role is "Hide behind a hill, find an unaware enemy, and pincushion them with shells." if this is the role as they see it (and I agree with this description) then a unaware enemy isnt going to have the chance to shoot back at you, meaning anything relating to the tanks armor is pointless beyond a token amount to maybe save you if you make a mistake (and all the Centurions already have this). Anything to buff the armor to the point where it can be used to willfully block shots is silly and goes directly against the role of the tank, and actually serves to make the tank less unique.

 

You dont sit on a ridge in a British medium, you sit turret down, wait for an enemy to look away or fire his gun and then you poke. You aim for as long as possible squeez off a shot and then pull back before he can look at you or reload. If youre playing a British medium correctly, according to its role, you arent going to be taking shots.


Edited by Avalon304, Oct 03 2017 - 21:10.


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I certainly won't be investing in anymore Tier 8 premiums until something is done to fix the match maker. I was happy with it the way it was. Getting in Tier 10 battles every single match while trying to run credit grinders isn't very much fun. Now, introduce some new tier 7 premium tanks and Ill be all over that.

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View PostThe_World_Needs_A_Hero, on Oct 03 2017 - 08:26, said:

 

Give it all the HP and DPM you want. No one is going to buy a T8 heavy tank, that will see T10 tanks often, if it only has 230 alpha. 

 

I'll buy it since I'm used to playing support anyways.

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View PostBrassFire, on Oct 03 2017 - 14:24, said:

 

 

>304mm is not enough

 

THIS IS GETTING BETTER AND BETTER

 

304 was just a couple spots on the front though..... from the armor models it looks like most of the front could be pretty easily penned even without gold ammo?





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