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Lert #1 Posted Oct 07 2017 - 21:06

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I got myself a 1/16th scale R/C KV today:

 

 

My question is about the additional armor that you can see on the upper glacis plate around the driver's visor / MG port, as well as on the sides of the hull.

 

- Which KV models had this armor? The chinese manufacturer labeled this as a KV-1's but that's not a designation I've ever heard of.

- Were there KV-2's with this additional armor?

 

Reason for the second question is because I got an aftermarket KV-2 turret and am planning to convert the tank, and if there were no KV-2's with the applique armor I'll have to remove it from the model.

 



Nudnick #2 Posted Oct 07 2017 - 21:14

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The hull looks like the in-game KV-2. A little different than the KV-1 and KV-1S. Not exactly the same as any of the in-game tanks.

Edited by Nudnick, Oct 07 2017 - 21:19.


Demonic_Angel_of_Death #3 Posted Oct 07 2017 - 21:50

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I believe the KV-1 had it applied... I remember seeing a couple pictures such as:

 

Which makes sense because the T-150 project was more or less a up-armored KV-1 by incorporating that applique armor into its overall armor scheme...

 

As far as the KV-2...

My very "extensive" internet google search has rendered no such pictures of KV-2's with applique armor, whereas the above picture was the second picture...


Edited by Demonic_Angel_of_Death, Oct 07 2017 - 21:54.


HOTA_CHATON #4 Posted Oct 07 2017 - 21:53

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Lert, unfortunately you may get a much better answer on War Thunder.  They have that tank, in game, as a premium and I am sure, since it's been there over a year now, there will be more answers.  Sorry.

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Usually a model maker will use an actual vehicle to get measurements from and perhaps you can find out what museum it is in or perhaps it is a static display somewhere. In any case, crews often made in-field modifications to give them a better chance of survival, not not all KV-1s and 2s looked the same. If a tank was damaged, it was patched up as best as possible to get it back to the front. So I wouldn't sweat minor discrepancies in a model. If it bothers you that much, you can cover up the offending area with crew equipment like backpacks and camo nets.

The_Chieftain #6 Posted Oct 12 2017 - 17:49

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It's commonly known as a KV-1E, although given the T-28 precedent, perhaps KV-1Eh is more accurate. Eh stands for "Ehkranirovanniy", which basically means "Appliqué." They are 35mm armor plates which started being added later 1940, and added a couple tons to the already somewhat overloaded transmission.

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View PostThe_Chieftain, on Oct 12 2017 - 11:49, said:

It's commonly known as a KV-1E, although given the T-28 precedent, perhaps KV-1Eh is more accurate. Eh stands for "Ehkranirovanniy", which basically means "Appliqué." They are 35mm armor plates which started being added later 1940, and added a couple tons to the already somewhat overloaded transmission.

 

You are saying the ''Eh'' is not Canadian thing, rather it means it is a ''mEh'' tank ?

 

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Dirizon #8 Posted Oct 13 2017 - 05:42

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View PostLert, on Oct 07 2017 - 15:36, said:

I got myself a 1/16th scale R/C KV today:

 

 

My question is about the additional armor that you can see on the upper glacis plate around the driver's visor / MG port, as well as on the sides of the hull.

 

- Which KV models had this armor? The chinese manufacturer labeled this as a KV-1's but that's not a designation I've ever heard of.

- Were there KV-2's with this additional armor?

 

Reason for the second question is because I got an aftermarket KV-2 turret and am planning to convert the tank, and if there were no KV-2's with the applique armor I'll have to remove it from the model.

 

 

have not seen Him  post in a long time

Lert #9 Posted Oct 18 2017 - 19:58

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View PostThe_Chieftain, on Oct 12 2017 - 16:49, said:

It's commonly known as a KV-1E, although given the T-28 precedent, perhaps KV-1Eh is more accurate. Eh stands for "Ehkranirovanniy", which basically means "Appliqué." They are 35mm armor plates which started being added later 1940, and added a couple tons to the already somewhat overloaded transmission.

 

Thanks for the info, that doesn't tell me if any KV-2s were built with those plates though. Probably not, I'm wagering? I can't find any pictures of KV-2s with the Eh plates, so I removed them from my model.

Edited by Lert, Oct 18 2017 - 20:00.





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