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tjpanzer69 #1 Posted Oct 19 2017 - 01:09

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I'm about half way grinding thru the Valentine, considering getting the Bishop.  I've read some good reviews, but some may have been before the big Arty changes in 9.18.  I like the sound of it having faster reload and aim time, and a high arc to hit things behind cover.   Is the Bishop worth the grind anymore?    If not, I'm reading a lot of recent posts saying the American line is the way to go, but I'd have to start at the Priest, would like to maybe get to the M44 at least if I go that route.

SenaKashiwazaki #2 Posted Oct 19 2017 - 01:24

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I played the bishop before the arty nerf/buff. It was pretty good. Must move up alot to take shots because of short range. I'm sure the faster reload time helps it nicely though.

tjpanzer69 #3 Posted Oct 19 2017 - 01:28

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Thanks for the response.  And sorry for the double post, forum is puking up some errors

heavymetal1967 #4 Posted Oct 19 2017 - 01:39

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It's worth it.  Same gun as the 304 at a tier lower and faster reload and aim time.

 

https://tanks.gg/compare/bishop?t=fv304

 

Per the earlier poster it's range like Bert's is pretty low so you have to move up which is more problematic due to it's slow speed.

 

Vents, rammer and GLD for equipment.  BIA first skill. 


Edited by heavymetal1967, Oct 19 2017 - 01:43.


moon111 #5 Posted Oct 19 2017 - 02:05

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View Postheavymetal1967, on Oct 19 2017 - 00:39, said:

It's worth it.  Same gun as the 304 at a tier lower and faster reload and aim time.

 

https://tanks.gg/compare/bishop?t=fv304

 

Per the earlier poster it's range like Bert's is pretty low so you have to move up which is more problematic due to it's slow speed.

 

Vents, rammer and GLD for equipment.  BIA first skill. 

 

I found the Bishop's speed will work if you support slow tanks.  ...eg the Heavy tanks.  You can keep up to them and buildings/hills/etc... are no problem for the Bishop to hit.

indoctrinated #6 Posted Oct 19 2017 - 02:07

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I dunno about it nowadays but I found it to be an OP arty when used in troll platoons in high tier games.
http://wotreplays.eu/site/2613158

PanzerLeader_2 #7 Posted Oct 23 2017 - 05:04

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It's not as good as it was before it was nerfed in 9.18, but it's still good. The Bishop and FV304 both can hit targets that are normally safe with their high arc. It's also very accurate for an arty.  It takes a few dozen games to get used to the short range and narrow arc, but it's great fun once you get the hang of it.

Edited by PanzerLeader_2, Oct 23 2017 - 05:05.


usma79south #8 Posted Oct 30 2017 - 01:35

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I'd say the bishop and the 304 hv bn nerfed too much - I'm not playing them anymore - 

the shells bounce off tier 7 & 8 heavies and TDs - 

if they don't improve the 304, it shouldn't hv to play 2 tiers up with 8s. 

Def recommend the American arty line, or the French instead. 

Next wd be the German line - 

I don't play the British line anymore



Paul_1986 #9 Posted Nov 01 2017 - 17:22

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I left the game about 9 months ago and came back last week. Its garbage now. It used to be one of the best artys in the game, now it can't do anything. I used to be able to land 200-300 dmg roof and engine deck shots if I set up at just the right angle and position, now those shots do 60-80 damage.

 

I used to average 1k dmg per game in Bishop, 3 MoE'd. Now I'm struggling to do 300 dmg per game. If they were going to cripple artillery they may as well have offered us a refund on the credit/xp on all of them so we could get something else.

 



TsarCidron #10 Posted Nov 01 2017 - 17:54

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the nerf/changes were mostly to mid-high tier arty.  Bishop is still fine.

SEL_BGM #11 Posted Nov 06 2017 - 19:00

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View PostTsarCidron, on Nov 01 2017 - 11:54, said:

the nerf/changes were mostly to mid-high tier arty.  Bishop is still fine.

 

Nah, the bishop and FV304 were both nerfed and got no splash or stun.  I use my FV304 to make credits, but because you have to play so close, sixth sense is mandatory.  It's still fun to play, but seldom does good damage.





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