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Poll: Did they made it Right by Not buffing it ?? (16 members have cast votes)

Should they Buff it's Turret Armour to Compete with Fellow Tanks

  1. Yes, of Course it is Essential for this Tank to Survive its Existance in this Game (8 votes [50.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

  2. No, Fv4202 Don't Need Any Buff (4 votes [25.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  3. I Don't Know I don't Have Fv4202 (4 votes [25.00%] - View)

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KamalSubhani #1 Posted Oct 19 2017 - 12:13

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What the Hell Developers are doing With fv4202??
I was Waiting for this Update Desperately for fv4202 turret Buff.... But these People are Disappointing ... Only a little Buff Nothing for this Garbage Tank ... What it has actually ????

 

Cons:

  • No Armour
  • No Fast reload as compare to Dmg (Looks it has tier 6 Gun)
  • Low Alpha Dmg

PROs:

  • Only Speed LOL

 

Speed does not matter if u have Garbage Gun with Garbage Armour Okay...
It looks they Put a tier 6 Vehicle Gun in this Tank ... Turret Armour was gonna be Only Edge with All Cons but WG Looks, not like British may be ....


Edited by KamalSubhani, Oct 19 2017 - 12:16.


dnaman #2 Posted Oct 19 2017 - 12:16

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I have it and it's firmly "ok."  It's nothing to write home about, but it's not quite as bad as you seem to think either.

84Doc04 #3 Posted Oct 19 2017 - 12:32

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View Postdnaman, on Oct 19 2017 - 06:16, said:

I have it and it's firmly "ok."  It's nothing to write home about, but it's not quite as bad as you seem to think either.

 

It is an "ok" tank, but there had been a buff working in the common test.  They retracted the buff at the last minute.  I guess only Russian premium tanks get to have good stats.

Hellsfog #4 Posted Oct 19 2017 - 12:34

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View Post84Doc04, on Oct 19 2017 - 06:32, said:

 

It is an "ok" tank, but there had been a buff working in the common test.  They retracted the buff at the last minute.  I guess only Russian premium tanks get to have good stats.

 

I thought WG reduced the speed buff but left the turret armor buff in place?

US_3rd_Army #5 Posted Oct 19 2017 - 12:36

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I actually like my FV4202, It's a decent tank to play. I use to hate it when it was tier 10, but now I like it, lol

Nudnick #6 Posted Oct 19 2017 - 12:53

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It's a decent tank. It's gimped by slow gun handling stats and low dpm, but all premiums are gimped in some way. To me all premiums should have better stats than the tech tree counterparts. If you want to play the free tech tree, fine. But people that pay good money for something should get better tanks for the money. The pay to win argument doesn't hold water because no amount of money can make anyone a better player.

Festthedestroyer #7 Posted Oct 19 2017 - 13:33

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View PostNudnick, on Oct 19 2017 - 11:53, said:

It's a decent tank. It's gimped by slow gun handling stats and low dpm, but all premiums are gimped in some way. To me all premiums should have better stats than the tech tree counterparts. If you want to play the free tech tree, fine. But people that pay good money for something should get better tanks for the money. The pay to win argument doesn't hold water because no amount of money can make anyone a better player.

 

​Not to be rude but that is possibly the most stupid thing I have read in a while...why should you get a better tank if you buy it? So basically you think that just because you have money to buy something, that you should get the advantage over people that cant afford it? If anything the premium tanks should be far weaker than the original tech tree thus encouraging people to grind various line rather than just pay for power and abuse that against people that cant afford them...

MountainLion1 #8 Posted Oct 19 2017 - 13:58

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If you think the FV4202P is bad try out the Tier VII British heavy, I haven’t played it in so long I forget what it is even called. This thing has no alpha damage, no armor, and no speed. If you try it out you will think the FV4202P is the Object 140.

Nudnick #9 Posted Oct 19 2017 - 14:16

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View PostFestthedestroyer, on Oct 19 2017 - 13:33, said:

 

​Not to be rude but that is possibly the most stupid thing I have read in a while...why should you get a better tank if you buy it? So basically you think that just because you have money to buy something, that you should get the advantage over people that cant afford it? If anything the premium tanks should be far weaker than the original tech tree thus encouraging people to grind various line rather than just pay for power and abuse that against people that cant afford them...

 

Too bad if you don't have money. Get a job freeloader.

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View PostMountainLion1, on Oct 19 2017 - 12:58, said:

If you think the FV4202P is bad try out the Tier VII British heavy, I haven’t played it in so long I forget what it is even called. This thing has no alpha damage, no armor, and no speed. If you try it out you will think the FV4202P is the Object 140.

 

The FV4201(A45)​?

The_Michael #11 Posted Oct 19 2017 - 14:19

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They buffed the turret armor by 30mm and they increased it's engine's hp.... Was quite a good buff and the tank plays excellently hull down.  I blocked 3k damage in it in a tier X game, even off my hull thanks to my gun depression allowing me to make it an auto ricochet.

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View PostNudnick, on Oct 19 2017 - 13:16, said:

 

Too bad if you don't have money. Get a job freeloader.

Clearly you're a "stereotypical" millennial...not going to even bother

 


Edited by Festthedestroyer, Oct 19 2017 - 14:21.


YANKEE137 #13 Posted Oct 19 2017 - 14:24

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View PostMountainLion1, on Oct 19 2017 - 13:58, said:

If you think the FV4202P is bad try out the Tier VII British heavy, I haven’t played it in so long I forget what it is even called. This thing has no alpha damage, no armor, and no speed. If you try it out you will think the FV4202P is the Object 140.

 

The British line is under Stalin's Curse. He's angry because Centurions have been kicking Russian built [edited]for the last 70 years.

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View PostNudnick, on Oct 19 2017 - 06:53, said:

To me all premiums should have better stats than the tech tree counterparts. If you want to play the free tech tree, fine. But people that pay good money for something should get better tanks for the money. The pay to win argument doesn't hold water because no amount of money can make anyone a better player.

 

Hi,

 

Just wow !

What you are talking about is pure "Pay2Win". This is a complete contradiction of what we are told from WG.

 

Cheers.

 

 

 

Cheers.



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View PostNudnick, on Oct 19 2017 - 08:16, said:

 

Too bad if you don't have money. Get a job freeloader.

 

Hi,

 

The problem isn't the money here but both the spirit of the game and what is saying WG. 

Check this : https://thedailyboun...orld-of-tanks/ 

 

Cheers.

 

 


Edited by jpli, Oct 19 2017 - 15:22.


oldewolfe #16 Posted Oct 20 2017 - 09:09

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I always thought it was Slow but the Armor wasn't too Bad, better than some because if the Sloping....      Getting this Pig out of the Pit on Westfield was a real Pain... 

 

Of the Buffs, I thought they were Nice but the Speed was more needed than the Armor...      I Bounced a JPE100 with that Tank so, how bad can it be....       Turret or Hull makes no Difference, it still Bounced...

 

Problem I found was you needed to keep Moving to do it.....       Between the Gun (which isn't Bad, not Great but not Bad, it is after all just a 20lber) and the Speed, you couldn't Shoot and expect to Reliably hit anything at anything beyond Arms Reach and even then you weren't Backing Out of the Line of Fire without getting Hit at least Once....       And if you're trying to Brawl with it, you're getting Holed, like it or not.....

 

Not Impossible, but ut is Annoying when it Happens....       It needed to Dance it's way out of Trouble and it has 2 Left Feet for that....       After I'd Fire, I'd start Backing Up and Turning to one side or the Other if I was Stuck in the Open and that usually earned a Couple of good Bounces...     Peeking a Ridge or a Wall was Always preferred as the Turret Slope was an even Smaller Target, but in both Cases, Speed always Helps where the Armor is Limited....     Faster I can Back Up, the Slower the Incoming Round is at Impact, and the Better I can get the Angles on the Hull before it gets there....       Makes the Wet Toilet Paper the 4202 use for Armor much more Effective...

 

I have over 900 Games in mine and I use it like a $2 Hooker....     I abuse the Snot out of this Tank, Brawling, Sniping, Ramming, Baiting....     I take on Multiple Tanks at once because I can't Count with my Shoes On....         Sometimes I win, mostly I beat the Stuffing out of some Red Tanks on my way Back to the Garage, which on occasion helps my Team deal with them...

 

I'm Glad for Any Buff really, I just felt the Speed more neccessary than the other, even with the way I beat on Mine...     lol

 

 



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View Postjpli, on Oct 19 2017 - 06:18, said:

 

Hi,

 

Just wow !

What you are talking about is pure "Pay2Win". This is a complete contradiction of what we are told from WG.

 

Cheers.

 

 

 

Cheers.

 

Agreed - Premium vehicles SHOULD NOT be better than the fully researched non-Premium [same class and Tier].

 

Premium vehicles should be slightly less better [have some unique characteristics that are not found in the Tech Tree] or just less better [perhaps the power-to-weight is less, slower turret traverse, etc.] than the fully-researched non-Premium [same class and Tier].

 

Having Premium vehicles that are better completely makes this game [Pay-to-Win].  



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The armor buff is nice but the engine power buff is great.

KamalSubhani #19 Posted Oct 22 2017 - 08:41

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View Postblack_colt, on Oct 21 2017 - 05:36, said:

 

Agreed - Premium vehicles SHOULD NOT be better than the fully researched non-Premium [same class and Tier].

 

Premium vehicles should be slightly less better [have some unique characteristics that are not found in the Tech Tree] or just less better [perhaps the power-to-weight is less, slower turret traverse, etc.] than the fully-researched non-Premium [same class and Tier].

 

Having Premium vehicles that are better completely makes this game [Pay-to-Win].  

 

Lol Pay to Play .... Dude If Balancing is Pay to Play then WG Should also Nerf Type 59 , Defender , Lowe Lorr 40t, And Skorpion G .... Fv4202 is Not Competitive In battle Due to Its Low Alpha Dmg Reload and Low Turret Armour. Speed merely a little Matter When U have to Fight with other Mediums of Your lvl Of course your main Weapon is Your Gun Not Engine... I Hardly See Any fv4202 in battle, Just bcoz of Its Drawbacks, Developer must Strong its Turret and Increase it's Alpha Dmg with Same reload time to Make it Competitive in Battle ... Of Course Not Every Player is Purple or Have 10k Personal Rating to Adjust it with his Skills...

Edited by KamalSubhani, Oct 22 2017 - 08:59.


steelrain97 #20 Posted Nov 17 2017 - 00:34

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The tank has always been slow, and I'm fine with a 40 ish top speed. What it had as a tier 10 was engine power. While it didn't top out very fast, it got to that speed fast and held that speed over an up everything. I was kinda hoping for that same treatment as a tier 8. Again, leave the top speed alone but increase acceleration and reduce terrain resistance. That gives it some individuality while making the tank more comfortable to play.





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