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The_Chieftain #21 Posted Dec 20 2017 - 14:06

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As of this morning, by Xmas is still expected in CONUS. Which generally means Saturday, it seems. Might show up Friday on the east Coaxt or Great Lakes.

Tod_kommt #22 Posted Dec 20 2017 - 15:10

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I want an autographed copy!         

Tod_kommt #23 Posted Dec 20 2017 - 22:00

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Got a note mine shipped today.

I still want an autographed copy!!!!



KnightmareX13 #24 Posted Dec 21 2017 - 00:28

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Got shipping info eta is the 26th, well at least it will be in time for my birthday

 

EDIT 12/22: fedex tracking is drunk and needs to go home; book arrived today


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KidChemo #25 Posted Dec 23 2017 - 23:55

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Just received mine today.

Not that I even play anymore, I just wanted the book.

 

M56 Scorpion, you say?

 

 



Bubster66 #26 Posted Dec 24 2017 - 14:06

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Ordered this as a gift for my son.  Echo Point charged my credit card on 11/6, the very day I placed the order.  Here we are on Christmas Eve -- I have no book, I have no emails from them, no shipping notifications, nothing.  I had the same trials and tribulations with them when I ordered Firepower.  Should have known better.

 

I highly recommend that Wargaming consider working with a different publisher if they continue to do books like this...



The_Chieftain #27 Posted Dec 24 2017 - 14:57

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Nothing in the spam filter from Echo Point? Books have started showing up in folks’s mailboxes now.

SteelWeazel #28 Posted Dec 24 2017 - 15:07

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Got mine yesterday, check your spam folders if you didn't get a email. FYI I leave great lakes region and they had said the 26th.

DerViktim #29 Posted Dec 24 2017 - 15:13

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All notifications to my e-mail were swallowed by the spam filter on Gmail. A quick check of the spam filter and all the notifications were there. My copy successfully arrived on Friday via the US Postal Service.

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Legiondude #30 Posted Dec 24 2017 - 15:14

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I have the original emailed receipt in my inbox, but for some reason the shipping receipt(Sent on the 22nd) went to my junk box

 

USPS shipping code tells me it'll arrive on the 26th for my order placed on the 14th of this month


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Avalon304 #31 Posted Dec 25 2017 - 10:36

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I wish Echo Point would stop using FedEx for my books... FedEx has this annoying habit of getting the package to my city and then letting it sit in the facility for a weekend before delivering it...

 

More annoying is the fact that my initial order confirmations says 'USPS Priority' on it... so wthEcho Point?



Tod_kommt #32 Posted Dec 25 2017 - 21:58

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Autographing your books could be lucrative.

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Tod_kommt #33 Posted Dec 26 2017 - 16:13

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Autographing your books could be lucrative.

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Mow_Mow #34 Posted Dec 26 2017 - 19:28

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Looks like my copy of Can Openers is scheduled to arrive today. Echo Point's e-mails to me also got caught by gmail's spam filter.

BuckeyeJoe_JH #35 Posted Dec 26 2017 - 22:46

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Just had mine delivered to my door by my friendly postman!

Mow_Mow #36 Posted Dec 27 2017 - 09:31

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Received my copy of Can Openers. It appears that there are some problems with text spacing, and a few missing periods here and there. Some of the pictures are (understandably) in need of better lighting, but otherwise I enjoyed the text. For future editions, major points for improvement could be the text spacing, as well as paragraph alignment. If the original quality of the photos is not a highly desired trait, then I also recommend that some of the photographs be edited for visibility.

Taffer1000 #37 Posted Dec 28 2017 - 03:59

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Disappointed by the quality of some of the pictures. For example, the picture of the T70 on page 136 is so dark you might not even want to include it in the book. I would suggest in the future to only include good quality pictures unless it's a picture of something very rare and there are very few pictures of it available.

Excelray1 #38 Posted Dec 29 2017 - 05:58

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View PostTaffer1000, on Dec 28 2017 - 12:59, said:

Disappointed by the quality of some of the pictures. For example, the picture of the T70 on page 136 is so dark you might not even want to include it in the book. I would suggest in the future to only include good quality pictures unless it's a picture of something very rare and there are very few pictures of it available.

 

Nicholas did mention in the preface that he'll prioritising rare images that lack quality over common high quality images that are floating online since he wants to avoid just being a repetition of what's alreadfy out there.

 

 

Also, since I've already transfered my account to the APAC server the bonus codes from fire power and can openers don't work anymore?



Nathan454 #39 Posted Dec 29 2017 - 16:00

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I just got my copy.  If you have any interest in GMC's, this is the book to have.  I wish he had spent a bit more time on the operational use of the M10, M18 and M36.  Nicholas explains that since these have been covered in detail elsewhere he concentrated on lesser known vehicles.  Fair enough, but honestly I'm still waiting for the definitive book on them.  Between Yeide's The Tank Killers, the various osprey books, Hunnicutt and Zalogas books there is still a need for all that to be condensed in one source.  Plus I still haven't seen a detailed analysis of TD performance against German armor that is also checked against German records.  The book should be read along with the Chieftain's Hatch articles on tank destroyers and development of the various anti tank guns (US guns, German Armor, part 1 and 2, his video on Tank destroyers, and The Can-Openers, America's Successful Failure.  If I was giving it as a gift I'd print those out and stick them in the book, they add a lot of context.)

 

There is a lot of good information on the development of the M36 (Barnes deserves a ton of credit for having the foresight to realize that you had to develop these things before you needed them, ie he understood the tyranny of time and made sure the M36 was developed despite no user requirement at the time.  This enabled the M36 to make it for the late war battles)  It still appears that the M36 could have been deployed a bit sooner then it was.  Even 1 month earlier would have almost doubled the amount available in the battle of the bulge.  M10 development is covered in more detail then in Hunnicutt's Sherman book which I appreciated.

 

There are a lot of memos, notes and reports made that help illustrate the perspective of those involved with development of both the vehicles and the weapons and why they made the decisions they did.  I've never seen this degree of detail on that in any previous work.

 

There is no index, which is annoying, although the table of contents is a reasonable substitute.

 

One improvement that could be made is that I would appreciate a concluding chapter on the book.  I know Nicholas is at pains to point out that his experience as a tanker does not make his opinion any more valid, but I do think his experience messing around with vehicles and decades of experience at least make his opinions worth noting.  I'd like a summary of what the tank destroyer concept got right, what it got wrong, how the development of these devices interacted with German armor development, the interplay between towed vs self propelled guns etc.  (A lot of this is covered to some degree on the Hatch articles above.)  He could also mention some vehicles not covered in the book simply because there was no data in the archives on them.

 

As for development of the obscure GMC's, this is basically the only game in town.  I'm still going through some of this stuff, its interesting and I really appreciate the effort it took to bring this to our attention, its knowledge that likely would have been lost forever otherwise.  Well done.

 

 The bottom line this book is worth it to anyone with a casual interest in the subject.



Tod_kommt #40 Posted Dec 31 2017 - 01:35

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