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g4143 #1 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 00:53

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Why are all my tier 5 tanks getting bottom 5(from the match maker) for over 75% of the time and my tier 7 arty and tier 8 heavy tanks are getting a more even distribution?


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Doomslinger__ #2 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 01:11

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My tier 8 tanks seem to be bottom tier for most battles. Tier 7 tanks seem to get an even mix of top/mid/bottom and feels fair. Tier 5 does get a lot of bottom tier battles now. Same for tier 6. I am not sure if the mm is optimized for the NA server and our smaller player base. They should make some adjustments if this is the way it works on EU and RU as well. All they have to do is give players an even mix of top/mid/bottom tier battles at all tiers and this would leave an over flow of certain tier tanks like tier 8 where premium tanks are popular so they could put the over flow into all same tier battles. Some tiers are more popular than others and this can be bad for the other tiers. Examples are tier 5,6,8. They need the mm system to take some of the tier 8 tanks and put them in more same tier battles and do the same for tier 10 tanks. This would allow your tier 6 and 8 tanks to have a more even mix of top/mid/bottom tier battles.

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ObrumPL #3 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 01:29

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View Postg4143, on Nov 12 2017 - 16:53, said:

 

Why are all my tier 5 tanks getting bottom 5(from the match maker) for over 75% of the time and my tier 7 arty and tier 8 heavy tanks are getting a more even distribution?

 

I saw a thread where a player kept track of battles to see how MM works for each tier that he has interest in knowing about, here is the link: http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/561006-the-haves-and-have-nots-the-unintended-impacts-of-the-new-mm/page__fromsearch__1

you will see why tier 5 is biatch tier of the game lately. :)


Edited by ObrumPL, Nov 13 2017 - 11:51.


g4143 #4 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 11:46

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Thanks for clearly that up for me...G4143

cocobabygirl #5 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 19:48

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Lol see that tier 5&6 are seal butter for the 7&8 tier's.  My worse battles happened in those tiers.  Nothing like having a AMX Bis against a very good E25 player. I'm a bad to very bad player but those match making tiers didn't help.

the_Deadly_Bulb #6 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 20:31

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View Postg4143, on Nov 12 2017 - 15:53, said:

 

Why are all my tier 5 tanks getting bottom 5(from the match maker) for over 75% of the time and my tier 7 arty and tier 8 heavy tanks are getting a more even distribution?

 

T-V is the worst tier for the 3/5/7 template.


 

T-Vs don't see T-III tanks so this means they will always be either mid or bottom tier in a 3 tier match. That's just how it is.

 

No other tier has this issue, in spite of the specious claims by T-VIII players that they never get top tier. They're right there at top tier when I'm in my Tier VIs.


 

If you're going to play T-V its important to realise you will rarely be better than mid tier, except to get an all T-V match or a 2 tier match, and those are rare.

If this doesn't kill you it will make you stronger. :honoring:



the_Deadly_Bulb #7 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 20:38

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View PostDoomslinger__, on Nov 12 2017 - 16:11, said:

My tier 8 tanks seem to be bottom tier for most battles. Tier 7 tanks seem to get an even mix of top/mid/bottom and feels fair. Tier 5 does get a lot of bottom tier battles now. Same for tier 6. I am not sure if the mm is optimized for the NA server and our smaller player base. They should make some adjustments if this is the way it works on EU and RU as well. All they have to do is give players an even mix of top/mid/bottom tier battles at all tiers and this would leave an over flow of certain tier tanks like tier 8 where premium tanks are popular so they could put the over flow into all same tier battles. Some tiers are more popular than others and this can be bad for the other tiers. Examples are tier 5,6,8. They need the mm system to take some of the tier 8 tanks and put them in more same tier battles and do the same for tier 10 tanks. This would allow your tier 6 and 8 tanks to have a more even mix of top/mid/bottom tier battles.

 

More Grand Battles for T-X and more single T-X battles would take the heat of T-VIII to some degree. Likewise more single tier battles for T-VIII would relieve T-VI tensions some. Same thing for T-VIIs, which would then really help the turd loaf the current 3/5/7 leaves for T-V with them unable to be matched ever with T-IIIs.

The current MM would be better all around if there were more single tier and 2 tier matches. The 3/5/7 is fine for some battles (maybe as much as 30 - 40 %), but it gets too tedious for the lower tiers when its a near constant. Just my opinion.


Edited by the_Deadly_Bulb, Nov 13 2017 - 20:39.


Worland #8 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 22:21

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Was pretty rough playing tier 5 this weekend. Made worse so by my grinding two utterly useless tanks that were of little help to my team on most maps. Slow loading pop guns are no match for fast tier 7s.

Da_Craw #9 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 23:57

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View Postthe_Deadly_Bulb, on Nov 13 2017 - 13:31, said:

 

T-V is the worst tier for the 3/5/7 template.


 

T-Vs don't see T-III tanks so this means they will always be either mid or bottom tier in a 3 tier match. That's just how it is.

 

No other tier has this issue, in spite of the specious claims by T-VIII players that they never get top tier. They're right there at top tier when I'm in my Tier VIs.

 

Tier IV would like to have a word.  In a 3 tier battle they are always bottom tier.  At least Vs get to be mid tier some.



the_Deadly_Bulb #10 Posted Nov 14 2017 - 02:51

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View PostDa_Craw, on Nov 13 2017 - 14:57, said:

Tier IV would like to have a word.  In a 3 tier battle they are always bottom tier.  At least Vs get to be mid tier some.

 

I suppose this is true.

When Vs don't get to be top IVs don't get to be mid, but at least the IIIs are safe. That's a good thing right?

Appearently WG feels a IV can play against a VI and a V can handle a VII but the poor IIIs mustn't see Vs. :amazed:






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