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frontflip2cool #21 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 18:54

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View PostCapnNoahJoJo03, on Nov 13 2017 - 17:09, said:

Hello! I have a question in regards to the equipment I should use on T34, as very soon the black version  will take up residence in my garage. Obviously a rammer in slot 1 and vert stabs in slot 2, but GLD or optics in slot three? I hear with vert stabs and GLD aim time is almost normal, but then I’m stuck with 370 view range ( ten from BIA). I have BIA and sixth sense from female commander. Also I’m wanting a T34 to grind creds so cola isn’t an option. Any opinions would be appreciated!

I run vents, rammer, and vert stab in mine.



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I think that’s what I’m gonna do front flip.

Roggg2 #23 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 19:02

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I dont have it but I'm assuming it's rammer/vents/vstab, like pretty much any heavy that can mount a stabilizer.

 

FWIW, the stabilizer has been demonstrated to be objectively better than the EGLD.



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View PostPrti_Do_Smrti_, on Nov 13 2017 - 12:29, said:

 

git gud if you can, and then come on this forum please

 

He's gudder than you are

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View PostRoggg2, on Nov 13 2017 - 10:02, said:

FWIW, the stabilizer has been demonstrated to be objectively better than the EGLD.

 

Where is this demonstration you refer to?  Link, etc. if you please.  I am not challenging your assertion, but merely saying that it is good to have a reference to look to.

 

For my own T34, the most played tank in my garage, its been so long since I equipped it that I don't remember what I use.  Pretty sure its rammer+EGLD+vents, and my T34B (I've had it since they first sold it months or a year ago?) would be the same.  I do know that what used to be one of the better alpha dealers at tier 8 years ago is very mediocre now and could use a dpm buff.



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Brawling Heavy tanks should use Vents over GLD to get a slight boost to ROF while aim time doesn't matter at 50 meters.  T34 does not brawl well, it hulls down like T29,30, but it's hull is soft.  Vents don't help as much as GLD.

 

 



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Definitely feels like the DPM is a bit lacking now..  honestly, if I was picking a buff for it, I'd like to bump the alpha up a bit to raise the DPM. The slow firing gun just feels good on the tank.

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GLD, Vents, Optics or, Rammer.

 

I don't think that I use rammer on mine, it only has 1600 dpm anyway, 10% of nothing is still nothing.

 

I have a 60% WR on mine so take it for what it is. Rammer basically does nothing so I just went with GLD instead which already increases your DPM by letting you aim faster thus you fire more often.


Edited by SpitYoYoMafia, Nov 13 2017 - 20:55.


SpitYoYoMafia #29 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 19:58

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BTW GLD is not an option on the T34, its manditory.

 

Edit: Didn't even realize that it could use Vstab, if you don't want view range use Leader_H's set up, if you like view range use my set up instead. Leader's is aggressive, mine is passive.


Edited by SpitYoYoMafia, Nov 13 2017 - 20:54.


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If you shoot at anything moving you're gonna need a GLD to effectively get the shot in. Otherwise no matter how high your DPM is it doesn't mean much.

 

The DPM is sufficient, it can often control the tempo of engagement since the T34 has very usable armor. 400 alpha per shot deter your enemies from rushing you if you position yourself well.

 

I suggest rammer/vstab/GLD.



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vents vstab rammer.  literally nothing else that would benefit this pile of craptank

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I have gun rammer, vertical stabilizer, and gun laying drive on mine. Many suggest vents but I feel the over all buff to everything is very minuscule. I'd only get vents if my crew had BIA as well. If you have BIA then by all means go Vents.  My setup tries to minimize the aim time of the gun as much as possible. I don't really brawl with this tank as it's armor isn't meant for that in my opinion. It's more of a second line support tank.

 

It's similar to it's brothers the T29/T32/T30 but at the same time different. It's reload is longer, and it drives slower. So bare that in mind when driving this vehicle. Can still go hull down if need be but doesn't mean it can stay like that with impunity. Drive out  take the shot then duck back in when done. Do not rely on armor.



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With the amount of turret movement you'll be doing in a t34, the GLD is pointless.  If you don't want vents instead of a GLD then youre honestly better off putting a spall liner on it.  GLD is that worthless on a t34

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View PostVinnyI82, on Nov 13 2017 - 18:08, said:

With the amount of turret movement you'll be doing in a t34, the GLD is pointless.  If you don't want vents instead of a GLD then youre honestly better off putting a spall liner on it.  GLD is that worthless on a t34

 

Again, I have a 60% WR in mine, you're free to have your opinion though. I keep mine at range. That's why I have optics. If you like being closer then yes, V-stab is better. Can't really say that when you're not moving your hull and turning your turret like that.

 

Edit: basically you play close range, V-Stab is good, I play mid range, positioning and minimizing movements is better for me, I don't snap shot in my T-34. If you minimize your movements V-stab doesn't do as much for you as GLD will. With my set up you should not be brawling people and the T-34 was not made to brawl to begin with. Anyone who is actually good at this game with either gold through your turret or shoot and overmatch the top of it. Some guns can even just load HE and hit you for 300+ a shot while breaking everything that you have in the process. 

 

I also still do not think that increasing the DPM with a rammer is worth it since increasing nothing is still nothing, I think that aiming on target is more valuable than just trying to increase the DPM as a whole, then you have to deal with spotting people since you're not expected to sit back and snipe. Since its a heavy and you're gonna get whacked by arty a lot and set on fire by HE I don't think that food is a good option for the T34 so I definitely don't think I'd recommend dropping optics for food instead.

 

That being said Vents/GLD/and V-Stab are all interchangeable so you can use whatever you want there. I like playing the vision games so most of my tanks have optics even with food. Different strokes for different folks I guess.


Edited by SpitYoYoMafia, Nov 14 2017 - 04:09.


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View PostVinnyI82, on Nov 13 2017 - 20:08, said:

With the amount of turret movement you'll be doing in a t34, the GLD is pointless.  If you don't want vents instead of a GLD then youre honestly better off putting a spall liner on it.  GLD is that worthless on a t34

 

"10% Reduction in Aim-Time. An enhanced (automated) gun laying drive, or GLD, decreases the Aiming Time required to "lay" or aim the gun by -10% over the hand-cranked manual method alternative. " Says nothing about staying still just reduces bloom by 10%

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View PostSlayer_Jesse, on Nov 13 2017 - 10:38, said:

Even after they slightly buffed it, id still go for GLD. the less you have to aim, the more you're going to hit. The little extra reload ov vents doen't really matter to a tank that should be hull down most of the time.

Vents actually helps both your aimtime and accuracy also. The difference is between vents and GLD is that Vents tightens your dispersion values while moving and rotating your turret, reduces your aim time, and improves your fully aimed accuracy. A Youtuber did a test a few years back and found that the sum of the vents bonuses actually improved your aim time more than GLD, and even more so if your crew has BIA. The best equipment set for improving aim time is vents and Vstab, and then of course, the mandatory rammer.



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View PostAltwar, on Nov 13 2017 - 13:18, said:

 

Where is this demonstration you refer to?  Link, etc. if you please.  I am not challenging your assertion, but merely saying that it is good to have a reference to look to.

 

 



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View Poststeelrain97, on Nov 14 2017 - 06:42, said:

Vents actually helps both your aimtime and accuracy also. The difference is between vents and GLD is that Vents tightens your dispersion values while moving and rotating your turret, reduces your aim time, and improves your fully aimed accuracy. A Youtuber did a test a few years back and found that the sum of the vents bonuses actually improved your aim time more than GLD, and even more so if your crew has BIA. The best equipment set for improving aim time is vents and Vstab, and then of course, the mandatory rammer.

 

Okay now do that test with the T-34. 10% of a lot is a lot. 5% of a lot I'd a lot less than 10% of a lot. 5 % of not much is not that different from 10% of not that much.



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View PostSpitYoYoMafia, on Nov 14 2017 - 11:27, said:

 

Okay now do that test with the T-34. 10% of a lot is a lot. 5% of a lot I'd a lot less than 10% of a lot. 5 % of not much is not that different from 10% of not that much.

 

It's not even 5% it's 5% spread among the crew, so it's more like 2.5% or something that I read somewhere like "+2.5%-2.75% bonus for each parameter (accuracy, base view range, reload etc) except max.speed. " It's boosts very small to all parameters of your tank but doesn't really specialize it for any real role.  Where as a V-Stab, GLD, Optics, Rammer etc gears your tank towards a more tight outcome.

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I just run GLD Vert and Rammer in my heavy's..     

I have used vents, but I really see no need in vents..  Like sure its ok on somethings..   That little camo that little reload that little whatever isn't the big picture.. 

In a true heavy brawl your not coming out till your reloaded hopefully anyway, and then if there is nothing to hide behind its time to use armor and outplay.. Your vents isn't really going to save you much..

 

Put vents on your light tanks.. ON your TD's.. That is where vents might actually help a little.. Some where where all those stats are needed.. The camo the view range so on etc..

Vents on heavys don't really help you that much..  Maybe if your a 50B and i'm not sure it can have vents..


Edited by BeanHoleBandit, Nov 14 2017 - 19:30.






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