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tanopasman62 #1 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 20:59

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https://thearmoredpa...-armor-changes/

 

Everyone knows the old good AT 2, a tank with defender levels of armor that used fo see tier 3s for a long time, and during all that time, WG didn't care.

 

Now that the AT 2 is miserable to play because of the new tier 5 MM, WG decides to nerf it to the point that most tier 6 can pen it easily without gold and without going for the cuppola, and pretty much most tier 5s will make a short work of it now.

 

So place your bets, which will be the next tier 5 nerfed to the ground while they still systematically ignoring the T67?



Devildog8 #2 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 21:03

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KV-1, KV1S  probably not since they are russian

YANKEE137 #3 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 21:09

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AT-2 was only good at one thing. It's going to be a big, slow,  XP piñata after the nerf. They should at least give it some more horsepower.

Insurrectional_Leftist #4 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 21:12

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whatever it take's to keep breaking the game into oblivion.

tanopasman62 #5 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 21:12

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View PostDevildog8, on Nov 13 2017 - 21:03, said:

KV-1, KV1S  probably not since they are russian

 

Tell that to both TD lines.

 

View PostYANKEE137, on Nov 13 2017 - 21:09, said:

AT-2 was only good at one thing. It's going to be a big, slow,  XP piñata after the nerf. They should at least give it some more horsepower.

 

And give it an actual gun, nobody is scared of that peashooter, it's was only troublesome for tiers 4-5 because they had to take their time to hit the cuppola, but nothing else.



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I can't lie.  It wouldn't hurt my feelings to see the T67 brought down a notch.

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View Posttanopasman62, on Nov 13 2017 - 20:59, said:

https://thearmoredpa...-armor-changes/

 

Everyone knows the old good AT 2, a tank with defender levels of armor that used fo see tier 3s for a long time, and during all that time, WG didn't care.

 

Now that the AT 2 is miserable to play because of the new tier 5 MM, WG decides to nerf it to the point that most tier 6 can pen it easily without gold and without going for the cuppola, and pretty much most tier 5s will make a short work of it now.

 

So place your bets, which will be the next tier 5 nerfed to the ground while they still systematically ignoring the T67?

Probably something Russian for once. But if they take the high rate of fire 57mm from the KV-1 I will raise a huge crap storm that WG won't know what hit them.

That or another British tank*cough cough* Churchill I *cough cough*



CapPhrases #8 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 21:18

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thankfully I'm done with the AT-2 and it seems like their buffing the tier 6 so I'll be fine.

personally the tier 5 only seems to do well when people don't take the time/ have the accuracy to hit the cupola.



tanopasman62 #9 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 21:32

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View Postfrontflip2cool, on Nov 13 2017 - 21:17, said:

Probably something Russian for once. But if they take the high rate of fire 57mm from the KV-1 I will raise a huge crap storm that WG won't know what hit them.

That or another British tank*cough cough* Churchill I *cough cough*

 

That gun has no place in a Russian heavy, I'm up for its removal.

 

Though I'd rather the (un)lucky one to be the Leopard and the Luchs by removing that machinecancer.



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View Posttanopasman62, on Nov 13 2017 - 21:32, said:

 

That gun has no place in a Russian heavy, I'm up for its removal.

 

Though I'd rather the (un)lucky one to be the Leopard and the Luchs by removing that machinecancer.

The auto cannon on the Luchs and Leopard are what make those tanks fun. Running up behind an enemy tank and just ripping a clip in the butt of the tank for 300-340 damage.

As for the KV-1. The 57mm on the KV-1 is fun to annoy lower, equal, and some higher tier tanks with a sub 2 second reload with proper crew skills, equipment and consumables.

But I would love to see the PZ I C lose it's 40shot machine gun cannon.



Komitadjie #11 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 21:54

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Honestly, this gets kinda funny to watch after a while. I swear, eventually the game will be balanced down to NASCAR levels, where all the tanks are identical with different paint jobs, and all the levels are precisely symmetric. Then people will be bi***in that one tank's sponsorship decals blend in too well with the terrain and it's an unfair advantage. Lol

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Kamahl1234 #12 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 21:58

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Dunno man, most tier 6 mediums won't pen 152mm vertical armor that easily with AP, so tier 5s will still struggle with it. As a result the armor will still be there. 

 

It just won't be silly thick that it never should have been in the first place.

 

 

 

It's amazing that for years it's been regarded as OP in regards to armor and nearly unkillable at its tier, but the second it gets addressed it's going to be the worst tank ever. 



tanopasman62 #13 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 21:59

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View Postfrontflip2cool, on Nov 13 2017 - 21:41, said:

The auto cannon on the Luchs and Leopard are what make those tanks fun. Running up behind an enemy tank and just ripping a clip in the butt of the tank for 300-340 damage.

As for the KV-1. The 57mm on the KV-1 is fun to annoy lower, equal, and some higher tier tanks with a sub 2 second reload with proper crew skills, equipment and consumables.

But I would love to see the PZ I C lose it's 40shot machine gun cannon.

 

I would love to see machinecancers removed altogether, but especially the 30mm, the pen values of that thing are retarded.

 

View PostKomitadjie, on Nov 13 2017 - 21:54, said:

Honestly, this gets kinda funny to watch after a while. I swear, eventually the game will be balanced down to NASCAR levels, where all the tanks are identical with different paint jobs, and all the levels are precisely symmetric. Then people will be bi***in that one tank's sponsorship decals blend in too well with the terrain and it's an unfair advantage. Lol

 

But seriously, AT 2 isn't really that hard to fight against in tier 5, it has solid armor but a big weakspot, no mobility and a poor gun to balance it, it wasn't necessary.

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View PostDevildog8, on Nov 13 2017 - 12:03, said:

KV-1, KV1S  probably not since they are russian

 

Probably buffs incoming for them.

YANKEE137 #15 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 22:14

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I did the AT-2 grind, the armor made it tolerable. You'd sit there nibbling away at your enemies while they bounced round after round on you. Without the stupid armor it will have nothing going for it at all.

The Panzer IVH is a decent non-Russian vehicle-probably will get the nerf next.



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Who knows what method they use for tank balance sometimes..I think they just throw a bunch of stuff in a hat and randomly draw something to nerf. No one ever considered the AT2 to be an OP tank, ever...

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View Posttanopasman62, on Nov 13 2017 - 17:29, said:

 

I would love to see machinecancers removed altogether, but especially the 30mm, the pen values of that thing are retarded.

 

 

But seriously, AT 2 isn't really that hard to fight against in tier 5, it has solid armor but a big weakspot, no mobility and a poor gun to balance it, it wasn't necessary.

 

AT 2 can be a problem if you let it be a problem and it gets in a good spot. Was playing a battle awhile ago in my 105mm Wolverine and myself and the arty were about the only things able to damage one from the front, unless you sniped that cupola from some range, not always going to work. But it is tough from the front, but it has sides and rear. Just have to get to them.

 

Don't think there is any real reason to nerf the AT 2. It's not OP, just at times it can be a challenge, it's own type of challenge, and that just makes it all interesting.



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View PostNL_Celt, on Nov 13 2017 - 21:34, said:

 

AT 2 can be a problem if you let it be a problem and it gets in a good spot. Was playing a battle awhile ago in my 105mm Wolverine and myself and the arty were about the only things able to damage one from the front, unless you sniped that cupola from some range, not always going to work. But it is tough from the front, but it has sides and rear. Just have to get to them.

 

Don't think there is any real reason to nerf the AT 2. It's not OP, just at times it can be a challenge, it's own type of challenge, and that just makes it all interesting.

 

I agree. I don't think the AT-2 should be nerfed.

docroberts #19 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 23:02

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Its just stupid to nerf the armor on the AT2 , everybody and there neighbors dog knows how to kill it . Unless they now chased the rest of the players away who know how to kill it in there sleep . Cant leave well enough alone can they . Read today that there changing some angles on the  STI . What's next on the nerf and kill list . 

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View PostYANKEE137, on Nov 13 2017 - 21:09, said:

AT-2 was only good at one thing. It's going to be a big, slow,  XP piñata after the nerf. They should at least give it some more horsepower.

 

WG adjust It to be like the rest of the line, big, fat exp piñatas 




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