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Trauglodyte #21 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 23:13

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View Postdocroberts, on Nov 13 2017 - 23:02, said:

Its just stupid to nerf the armor on the AT2 , everybody and there neighbors dog knows how to kill it . Unless they now chased the rest of the players away who know how to kill it in there sleep . Cant leave well enough alone can they . Read today that there changing some angles on the  STI . What's next on the nerf and kill list . 

 

Except that new players don't know how to kill it.  New players don't know how to wipe their butts let alone adequately kill tanks.  That isn't to say that I disagree or agree with the nerf.  WG and reasons /boggle

 

I do find it retarded that T67s are better than most equal tier Lights and Mediums.  It is the perfect tank.


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Komitadjie #22 Posted Nov 13 2017 - 23:49

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Only real problem with the T67 is that it's fun and easy for a new player to play.

So in the hands of someone with 30k games and a five perk crew, it's rather deadly. That's a problem with all tanks that are newbie friendly, I think.

TVV #23 Posted Nov 14 2017 - 00:02

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It also looks like the armor in the rest of the line from tier 6 to tier 9 is getting serious and much needed improvements. What is better: good tier 5, but bad 6 through 8, or a bad tier 5 and decent 6 through 9? 

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View PostKomitadjie, on Nov 13 2017 - 23:49, said:

Only real problem with the T67 is that it's fun and easy for a new player to play.

So in the hands of someone with 30k games and a five perk crew, it's rather deadly. That's a problem with all tanks that are newbie friendly, I think.

 

The T67 is the Type 64 of Tier 5.

 

I can't see WG balancing things well, they need to keep those sealclubbers playing.  Remember the absolute meltdown people had when the Hellcat was nerfed down from being a Type 64 with a 90mm?  Nah they need to keep the moneys coming.



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View Postfrontflip2cool, on Nov 13 2017 - 21:41, said:

The auto cannon on the Luchs and Leopard are what make those tanks fun. Running up behind an enemy tank and just ripping a clip in the butt of the tank for 300-340 damage.

As for the KV-1. The 57mm on the KV-1 is fun to annoy lower, equal, and some higher tier tanks with a sub 2 second reload with proper crew skills, equipment and consumables.

But I would love to see the PZ I C lose it's 40shot machine gun cannon.

 

As a purest, I don't think it ever existed on the KV-1 to begin with...

 

 

...but it DID on the T-34!  My fav gun for that tank.


 



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t67 needs to lose 1000 dpm.

xSzikll #27 Posted Nov 14 2017 - 02:32

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It's not tier 5 but I'm going for the D.W 2.

SturmEnte #28 Posted Nov 14 2017 - 02:35

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Take all the tanks at tier 5 and put them onto a roulette wheel.  Remove the Russian ones.  Spin it and drop a ball.  Whichever tank it lands on gets the nerf.  Now it's time for the vodka comrade.

tanopasman62 #29 Posted Nov 14 2017 - 03:08

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View PostHurk, on Nov 14 2017 - 01:26, said:

t67 needs to lose 1000 dpm.

 

The DPM isn't that much of a problem as there are other normal tanks with similar DPM, they need to nerf its mobility to medium or sub medium tank levels so it can't behave like an E 25, or better, make it blind so it doesn't become absolute aids in late game.

 

View PostxSzikll, on Nov 14 2017 - 02:32, said:

It's not tier 5 but I'm going for the D.W 2.

 

Of course, that thing is far too OP and clearly needs a nerf. :P

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View Posttanopasman62, on Nov 13 2017 - 19:08, said:

The DPM isn't that much of a problem as there are other normal tanks with similar DPM, they need to nerf its mobility to medium or sub medium tank levels so it can't behave like an E 25, or better, make it blind so it doesn't become absolute aids in late game.

they already have that tank, its called the wolverine. the T67 needs to lose 1000dpm. 



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You seem butthurt over the T67.

 

Show us on this tank doll where the T67 touched you.

 

 



docroberts #32 Posted Nov 14 2017 - 04:20

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View PostTrauglodyte, on Nov 13 2017 - 16:13, said:

 

Except that new players don't know how to kill it.  New players don't know how to wipe their butts let alone adequately kill tanks.  That isn't to say that I disagree or agree with the nerf.  WG and reasons /boggle

 

I do find it retarded that T67s are better than most equal tier Lights and Mediums.  It is the perfect tank.

Then I would tell them to do some bookwork and find the hit skins and learn each tank like we all had to . Some was trial and error and flat out asking , but in the end we all learned and how to flank , scrape , ammo types . But I guess that would be asking to much . That's what I loved about the game when I started years ago  . We didn't have preem ammo to spam at will . We had to get creative .


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Doomslinger__ #33 Posted Nov 14 2017 - 04:29

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If anything, the T67 could use a view range buff. It used to have 370 m like the wolverine and then they nerfed it to 340. That is going too far. It also has limited ammo and you do run out sometimes. I can understand a light tank having limited ammo because their job is spotting/scouting and not killing tanks. By definition, a tank destroyer is to destroy tanks so gimping them with limited ammo capacity is messed up.

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tanopasman62 #34 Posted Nov 14 2017 - 05:16

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View PostHurk, on Nov 14 2017 - 03:35, said:

they already have that tank, its called the wolverine. the T67 needs to lose 1000dpm. 

 

The Wolverine is slow, but it has a far better VR and accuracy, so its more of a traditional TD rather than a turreted E 25, either slow this thing down or make it blind.

 

View PostDoomslinger__, on Nov 14 2017 - 04:29, said:

If anything, the T67 could use a view range buff. It used to have 370 m like the wolverine and then they nerfed it to 340. That is going too far. It also has limited ammo and you do run out sometimes. I can understand a light tank having limited ammo because their job is spotting/scouting and not killing tanks. By definition, a tank destroyer is to destroy tanks so gimping them with limited ammo capacity is messed up.

 

As usual: NO

 

 



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View Posttanopasman62, on Nov 13 2017 - 21:16, said:

The Wolverine is slow, but it has a far better VR and accuracy, so its more of a traditional TD rather than a turreted E 25, either slow this thing down or make it blind.

no, it does not. look at the soft stats. 

https://tanks.gg/com...wolverine?t=t67

the base .36 v .39 is irrelevant since the t67 gets .08 vs .12 turret bloom 

while the base VR of the wolv is better, binocs make that a moot point. 

since the T67 can get to cover and stop moving long before the wolv ever gets there, it doesnt need the extra VR. 

 

the wolverine is a balanced tank, its win rate graph follows its players nicely. the t67 is a OP pos that needs to be fed through a barrel crusher, then sent to hell. its a despicable indication of just how bad WG is at recognizing real poison in their game and getting rid of it in a timely manner. especially since far more players run into this than any tier 10. 

 



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View Postnasfan, on Nov 13 2017 - 15:15, said:

I can't lie.  It wouldn't hurt my feelings to see the T67 brought down a notch.

 

Just because all the good players use it, doesn't mean it's a great tank.  Shell velocity is low and it has a slow turning turret with an open top.  You can one-shot it with a Pz IVH or any other Tier 5 derp.

 

I preferred the old T49 that it used to be anyway.



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View PostTVV, on Nov 13 2017 - 18:02, said:

It also looks like the armor in the rest of the line from tier 6 to tier 9 is getting serious and much needed improvements. What is better: good tier 5, but bad 6 through 8, or a bad tier 5 and decent 6 through 9? 

 

The latter.  I don't know if the AT-2 will be truly BAD with this change or not.



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There coming for the T67 :)


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View Postnicodeimous, on Nov 14 2017 - 15:28, said:

There coming for the T67 :)

 

They will nerf a premium tank before nerfing the T67.

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would be nice to see the derps gone from the m4 and pzIV.




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