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[CabbageMechanic]

Hey Tankers,

The fan favorite German light is back, and with some extensive changes.  This version is uptiered and should play more like a light tank, and less like a second-line support.  Let us know what you think!

[DoctorThe19th]

did this JUST hit supertest?

I thought we were supposed to get this with the ELC EVEN 90 in 9.21

[Mikosah]

The penetration is now 204 with the standard shell. What about the premium shell? Any word on the terrain resistances and movement dispersion penalties? Why change the alpha to 180 from a 75mm gun? Wouldn't it be more unique and interesting to use the original value of 135 and compensate with higher DPM?

[DoctorThe19th]

Mikosah, on Nov 27 2017 - 12:49, said:

The penetration is now 204 with the standard shell. What about the premium shell? Any word on the terrain resistances and movement dispersion penalties? Why change the alpha to 180 from a 75mm gun? Wouldn't it be more unique and interesting to use the original value of 135 and compensate with higher DPM?

 

from what is shown about the tank on tanks.gg it's standard shell is APCR with 221mm penetration while the HE shell is with a penetration of 38mm. Doesn't seem to have "premium shells"

https://tanks.gg/v09...mpare/aufklpz-v

 

It's totally different from what is posted here though but at least you can see what isn't shown here there and take a guess.

Edited by dir32jd, Nov 27 2017 - 21:53.

[lordpelvis]

Dez said in a video that it will probably be a reward tank for new personal missions

[Kamahl1234]

lordpelvis, on Nov 27 2017 - 21:02, said:

Dez said in a video that it will probably be a reward tank for new personal missions

 

This wouldn't make sense as they're releasing a number of tier 8 premium lights, or at least have them in supertest. So it appears they're adding one per most nations that have high tier lights. Wouldn't make any sense to make this one a reward while the rest are premium. 

[Demonic_Angel_of_Death]

CabbageMechanic, on Nov 27 2017 - 15:33, said:

Let us know what you think!

 

I think it's a crock that years ago you guys took away my favorite light tank in the game and gave me the SP.I.C. which I never played in pubs, only team battles because I hate it...

And on top of that, I hear the Aufklarungspanzer Panther isn't planned to be sold.... So I can't even buy back my favorite Light tank...

 

Personally I think there should be an option for those who had it prior on their record to get it for free via missions like when the FV 4202 became a premium... Because if I could straight up trade the SP.I.C. for that tank I would in a heartbeat no questions asked...

 

I just want my buddy back...

Edited by Demonic_Angel_of_Death, Nov 27 2017 - 22:45.

[Anlushac11]

Demonic_Angel_of_Death, on Nov 27 2017 - 16:40, said:

 

I think it's a crock that years ago you guys took away my favorite light tank in the game and gave me the SP.I.C. which I never played in pubs, only team battles because I hate it...

And on top of that, I hear the Aufklarungspanzer Panther isn't planned to be sold.... So I can't even buy back my favorite Light tank...

 

Personally I think there should be an option for those who had it prior on their record to get it for free via missions like when the FV 4202 became a premium... Because if I could straight up trade the SP.I.C. for that tank I would in a heartbeat no questions asked...

 

I just want my buddy back...

 

I agree 100%.  I would buy back my SP1C just to trade it to get my Auflpanther back.

 

I dont think  those that had it should have to jump through a bunch of damm hoops just to get it back.

[Sam_Sanister]

CabbageMechanic, on Nov 27 2017 - 14:33, said:

Hey Tankers,

The fan favorite German light is back, and with some extensive changes.  This version is uptiered and should play more like a light tank, and less like a second-line support.  Let us know what you think!

 

Cabbage, I know you're just the messenger, so here's a message I hope you can relay.
Instead of decreasing the APCR pen and making it the standard round, why not just increase the AP pen by 13-23 mm?
This would give it 170/180 pen, on par with the other tier 8 LTs.
LTs have received bigger pen buffs before.
The VK 1601 and VK 2801's 5 CM got their AP pen buffed from 67 to 100, an increase of 33 mm of pen.
A bit less drastic change would be the 45 mm guns on the T-50 and MT-25; their 45 mms were buffed from 75 mm to 90 mm pen; an increase of 15.

 

[DoctorThe19th]

Kamahl1234, on Nov 27 2017 - 13:07, said:

This wouldn't make sense as they're releasing a number of tier 8 premium lights, or at least have them in supertest. So it appears they're adding one per most nations that have high tier lights. Wouldn't make any sense to make this one a reward while the rest are premium. 

 

T28 HTC is reward tank and only giving us the M56 Scorpion to choose.

if this was the case then it would make sense because:

AwfulPanther is a tier 8 premium German light.

we already have the M41 Blackdog 90mm at tier 8 premium German light.

 

Demonic_Angel_of_Death, on Nov 27 2017 - 13:40, said:

 

I think it's a crock that years ago you guys took away my favorite light tank in the game and gave me the SP.I.C. which I never played in pubs, only team battles because I hate it...

And on top of that, I hear the Aufklarungspanzer Panther isn't planned to be sold.... So I can't even buy back my favorite Light tank...

 

Personally I think there should be an option for those who had it prior on their record to get it for free via missions like when the FV 4202 became a premium... Because if I could straight up trade the SP.I.C. for that tank I would in a heartbeat no questions asked...

 

I just want my buddy back...

 

If they happen to do that for the AwfulPanther then I hope they do that for the T-50-2 when they release it as a premium in due time.

 

 

Edited by dir32jd, Nov 27 2017 - 23:07.

[Night1Silver]

Pls give the owners who has this tank a chance to get it though missions. It could be a reward for playing this game for a long time.

[stalkervision]

SilverEaglewing, on Nov 27 2017 - 17:06, said:

Pls give the owners who has this tank a chance to get it though missions. It could be a reward for playing this game for a long time.

 

agreed. this si the least they can do for previous owners.

[mrmojo]

What I think?

Is those players you stole this tank from should get it back and keep the SP1C, just like you have done with the TD's you have changed.

[Sam_Sanister]

Demonic_Angel_of_Death, on Nov 27 2017 - 15:40, said:

 

I think it's a crock that years ago you guys took away my favorite light tank in the game and gave me the SP.I.C. which I never played in pubs, only team battles because I hate it...

And on top of that, I hear the Aufklarungspanzer Panther isn't planned to be sold.... So I can't even buy back my favorite Light tank...

 

Personally I think there should be an option for those who had it prior on their record to get it for free via missions like when the FV 4202 became a premium... Because if I could straight up trade the SP.I.C. for that tank I would in a heartbeat no questions asked...

 

I just want my buddy back...

 

I loved the AufklPanther as well, so I feel ya.

On the downside, the T-44 Lightweight will be a better AufklPanther than the AufklPanther. 
 

[Mikosah]

dir32jd, on Nov 27 2017 - 14:52, said:

 

from what is shown about the tank on tanks.gg it's standard shell is APCR with 221mm penetration while the HE shell is with a penetration of 38mm. Doesn't seem to have "premium shells"

https://tanks.gg/v09...mpare/aufklpz-v

 

It's totally different from what is posted here though but at least you can see what isn't shown here there and take a guess.

 

That's just the thing, tanks.gg tells us everything we need to know but its only useful when properly updated. When changes like these are proposed and tanks.gg isn't up to speed, there's a lot of guesswork to be done regarding all the information that isn't shown in this post. For instance, now that they changed the penetration from 221 to 204, will the tank now have a premium shell to compensate? Maybe it will, maybe it won't. Its a fair question to ask, and third-party sites like tanks.gg are only going to provide an answer after the fact.

[Anlushac11]

What I find funny is that the Waffe 0725 Konisch gun never had a HE round. The very design principle of the gun didnt allow it.

 

To best of my knowledge there were only ever two rounds, the APCNR high velocity round and a APCNR round with tracer for training so Gunner could track their shots.

[black_colt]

Really hope that this vehicle is available for purchase.

 

Was working my way up the line towards the Aufklärungspanzer, when it was available in the tech-tree back in the day, as I liked the Waffe and the vehicle specifications [was also playing the VK 30.01 [H] and VK 36.01 [H] at the same time so I could get good with the Waffe and help the team] but it was withdrawn before I could get it.

 

IIRC from the reviews I watched it suffered from being as tall and as large as a house so it was not stealthy nor could it take advantage of most of the bushes but the speed, gun, and weight made for an enjoyable vehicle in battle

 

 

Edited by black_colt, Nov 29 2017 - 01:16.

[KaiserWilhelmShatner]

WG, when are you going to try to sell me back the VK28.01 with the 105mm?

[DoctorThe19th]

KaiserWilhelmShatner, on Nov 28 2017 - 19:49, said:

WG, when are you going to try to sell me back the VK28.01 with the 105mm?

 

I think you meant to say the T-50-2.

[Anlushac11]

black_colt, on Nov 28 2017 - 19:16, said

IIRC from the reviews I watched it suffered from being as tall and as large as a house so it was not stealthy nor could it take advantage of most of the bushes but the speed, gun, and weight made for an enjoyable vehicle in battle

 

 

 

I agree with this statement and yet somehow I managed to get my LT-15 mission done on Malinovka which got me my StuG IV.