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Tankie_21j #41 Posted Dec 05 2017 - 18:18

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Trying to find were it discusses how to earn the bonds in the campaign? any help would be appreciated!

Tankie_21j #42 Posted Dec 05 2017 - 18:29

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so is that chart for each stage of the campaign or for the whole campaign? EX.  500 bond with X2 multiplier. finish in the same position all 3 stages, how many bonds do I get from the campaign alone?

t8z5h3 #43 Posted Dec 05 2017 - 22:45

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View PostTankie_21j, on Dec 05 2017 - 13:18, said:

Trying to find were it discusses how to earn the bonds in the campaign? any help would be appreciated!

 

View PostTankie_21j, on Dec 05 2017 - 13:29, said:

so is that chart for each stage of the campaign or for the whole campaign? EX.  500 bond with X2 multiplier. finish in the same position all 3 stages, how many bonds do I get from the campaign alone?

 

The bonds is for event long not stage look at this link under rewards section 10? 



Tankie_21j #44 Posted Dec 06 2017 - 06:01

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that clarifies some things but still wanting a answer to how its multiplied?

 

 

so is that chart for each stage of the campaign or for the whole campaign? EXAMPLE.  500 bond with X2 multiplier. finish in the same position all 3 stages, how many bonds do I get from the campaign alone?           .



t8z5h3 #45 Posted Dec 06 2017 - 12:07

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View PostTankie_21j, on Dec 06 2017 - 01:01, said:

that clarifies some things but still wanting a answer to how its multiplied?

 

 

so is that chart for each stage of the campaign or for the whole campaign? EXAMPLE.  500 bond with X2 multiplier. finish in the same position all 3 stages, how many bonds do I get from the campaign alone?           .

1000



Redwave11 #46 Posted Dec 06 2017 - 12:46

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View Postt8z5h3, on Dec 03 2017 - 14:30, said:

 

yes i did and the top 1% of players get 1000 bonds if they are in the top clan they7 times multiplier so

1000*7= 7000

 

How bout dis math......

 

Currently there are 4800 players qualified to rank in the campaign, we can probably expect that to rech 6k by the end. This means 50% of players will have the opportunity to buy a tank with bonds.

There is also 110 clans qualified to rank at the moment, we can expect this to get up to around 150 by the end of the campaign. 

 

Now considering these numbers we can look at the expected bonds earnt by the players and we notice that in order to earn all the bonds needed to buy the tank in the campaign alone you would have to both rank in the top 10% individually AND have your clan in the top 10%. This means that the other 40% who have the opportunity to buy the tank will not receive adequate bonds from the event to purchase it.

 

(Of course there are some dodgey assumptions for simplicity but this is basically how it will go)

 

Personally i would expect many players who will rank in the top 3000 to have at least 1k bonds lying around and should receive at least another 1k from the event. This leaves them around 2k to grind in pubs before Jan 5th or whenever the end purchase date is. It will be hard (maybe 10 pubs in tier 10 everyday as a ballpark) to earn bonds in pubs and play campaign, but definitely not impossible. Hopefully  WG can increase the bond earnings a little (10%) even if they don't increase the maximum amount you are able to earn.



dominator_98 #47 Posted Dec 06 2017 - 18:03

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View PostHellsfog, on Dec 02 2017 - 17:29, said:

 

Nice chart. Did you bother to read it? probably not.  Give it read and tell me that the math in my example is wrong. At this moment, the clan in 13th place only gets a 3x modifier, which means that if you were in that clan and in the top 1% personal fame points, you would get 3k bonds.  Oh wait, you need 4K. Sorry no tank for you. 

Except I have over 1000 bonds myself, and have played less than 20 ranked battles, and don’t play tier 10 much. 99% of players good enough to earn more than 2000 bonds should not have too much of an issue acquiring another 2000. The main issue is that you have to grind bonds in pubs for a CW event.



bobdaxx #48 Posted Dec 06 2017 - 18:15

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problem is random tier 10 on this server is fail.  There are not enough 10s going around to get in consistent tier 10 fights.  Its impossible to count of farming bonds in pubs if you see 2 tier 10 matches every hour.  I don't agree with the poster above me saying that farming 2k bonds is pubs will be no problem. 

 

There better be a way to buy bonds f gold or wg better throw a 3rd season of ranked (I know during the holidays is fail as well) or there will be a lot of really pissed of players that come up short. Or wg needs to reduce the cost in bonds for the reward tank.

 

I made about 6k in ranked and that was casual couple days play per season.  Bought imp equip. Have 1k in the bank.  I dont really care about the tank but as of now im looking at 800 bonds times whatever multiplier our clan gets.  But one thing Ive learned playing numerous campaigns is that you never know where you are going to end up until the entire thing is over.  Dont count your rewards until its over


Edited by bobdaxx, Dec 06 2017 - 18:30.


JEDIDIEUGH #49 Posted Dec 06 2017 - 20:43

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View Postbobdaxx, on Dec 06 2017 - 09:15, said:

problem is random tier 10 on this server is fail.  There are not enough 10s going around to get in consistent tier 10 fights.  Its impossible to count of farming bonds in pubs if you see 2 tier 10 matches every hour.  I don't agree with the poster above me saying that farming 2k bonds is pubs will be no problem. 

 

There better be a way to buy bonds f gold or wg better throw a 3rd season of ranked (I know during the holidays is fail as well) or there will be a lot of really pissed of players that come up short. Or wg needs to reduce the cost in bonds for the reward tank.

 

I made about 6k in ranked and that was casual couple days play per season.  Bought imp equip. Have 1k in the bank.  I dont really care about the tank but as of now im looking at 800 bonds times whatever multiplier our clan gets.  But one thing Ive learned playing numerous campaigns is that you never know where you are going to end up until the entire thing is over.  Dont count your rewards until its over

 

KANTO will undoubtedly get at least a 4x mulitpler and consider most of us are in the top 1000 we should be able to to earn 2000 bonds MINIMUM. More than likely you will also have 1000 or so bonds lying around if you participated in either beta ranked seasons (you really only needed to get to rank 2 which is easy to earn quite a few bonds) and grinding out bonds at tier 10 isn't so bad if you average 800 base exp every game until the end of the campaign. All this points out that it isn't too hard for decent players in good clans, but it is going to be EXTREMELY difficult for anyone, unicum or not, in a bad clan to get a reward tank. 

  Then again, it is a REWARD tank so I guess that's just how WG is encouraging players to get better at the game. After all, the reward tanks with the exception of the OBJ 007 and possibly the VK 72.01 are worse than their tech tree counterparts. 



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Disclaimer: I was just using KANTO as an example.

Tankie_21j #51 Posted Dec 07 2017 - 18:49

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if I only earn a 1000 bonds total then why does it zero out after each stage? seems like we should get to keep the bonds and multipliers earned in each stage?

Hellsfog #52 Posted Dec 07 2017 - 19:06

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View PostTankie_21j, on Dec 07 2017 - 12:49, said:

if I only earn a 1000 bonds total then why does it zero out after each stage? seems like we should get to keep the bonds and multipliers earned in each stage?

 

You don't get them at the end of the stage, only at the end of the event based on your standing and your clan's standing at the end of the event. 

moogleslam #53 Posted Dec 07 2017 - 19:56

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If any one player is caught cheating during the Campaign, is his entire clan disqualified?  Just trying to think of ways to move up in rank :)

 

Seriously though, getting the reward tank won't be easy.  I'm understanding how this works a little better now.  At best, I think I'll earn 1,200 bonds from 600 personal x my clan's 2 x multiplier. Very few players are going to earn reward tanks from the Campaign alone. 

 

Some questions:

 

  1. Is it normal for it to be this difficult to earn reward tanks, or is it much more difficult this year?
  2. I've heard people speculate/hope that they'll increase the bond payout (for the third stage?).  Is this likely?
  3. What do we do with our personal fame points?  I've heard some talk about converting them for bonds.


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View Postmoogleslam, on Dec 07 2017 - 14:56, said:

If any one player is caught cheating during the Campaign, is his entire clan disqualified?  Just trying to think of ways to move up in rank :)

 

Seriously though, getting the reward tank won't be easy.  I'm understanding how this works a little better now.  At best, I think I'll earn 1,200 bonds from 600 personal x my clan's 2 x multiplier. Very few players are going to earn reward tanks from the Campaign alone. 

 

Some questions:

 

  1. Is it normal for it to be this difficult to earn reward tanks, or is it much more difficult this year?
  2. I've heard people speculate/hope that they'll increase the bond payout (for the third stage?).  Is this likely?
  3. What do we do with our personal fame points?  I've heard some talk about converting them for bonds.

 

I dont think so

t8z5h3 #55 Posted Dec 08 2017 - 02:22

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View Postmoogleslam, on Dec 07 2017 - 14:56, said:

If any one player is caught cheating during the Campaign, is his entire clan disqualified?  Just trying to think of ways to move up in rank :)

 

Seriously though, getting the reward tank won't be easy.  I'm understanding how this works a little better now.  At best, I think I'll earn 1,200 bonds from 600 personal x my clan's 2 x multiplier. Very few players are going to earn reward tanks from the Campaign alone. 

 

Some questions:

 

  1. Is it normal for it to be this difficult to earn reward tanks, or is it much more difficult this year?
  2. I've heard people speculate/hope that they'll increase the bond payout (for the third stage?).  Is this likely?
  3. What do we do with our personal fame points?  I've heard some talk about converting them for bonds.

It is unlikely of a clan wide punishment and play based ones are rare I guess 

1. Yes

2.never going to happen

3.personal fame points are for the ranking on the personal leader board witch is where you get ranked for prizes (camo,tanks and bonds the clan level rank is only the malitplyer for the bonds 



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View Postmoogleslam, on Dec 07 2017 - 13:56, said:

If any one player is caught cheating during the Campaign, is his entire clan disqualified?  Just trying to think of ways to move up in rank :)

 

Seriously though, getting the reward tank won't be easy.  I'm understanding how this works a little better now.  At best, I think I'll earn 1,200 bonds from 600 personal x my clan's 2 x multiplier. Very few players are going to earn reward tanks from the Campaign alone. 

 

Some questions:

 

  1. Is it normal for it to be this difficult to earn reward tanks, or is it much more difficult this year? Due to the lower number of participants it seems easier to get the license but bonds are the problem. 
  2. I've heard people speculate/hope that they'll increase the bond payout (for the third stage?).  Is this likely? No. 
  3. What do we do with our personal fame points?  I've heard some talk about converting them for bonds. At the end of the event, you will receive bonds based on your personal fame point rank. That number of bonds will be multiplied based on your clan's rank. 

 



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I feel badly for those without 907's who are hoping to acquire one.

 

I'm not playing it for the tank (have the ones I want anyway), only playing because I enjoy clan activities. The 3 camos will be nice...I guess. 

 

For those aspiring for more and are not in a clan that will be high enough to enable you....I feel bad for ya son.

 

WG could have done better. Maybe they will at some point shortly after the campaign but knowing their recent track record I really rather doubt it.

 

Good luck everyone and stay sane!



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View PostHellsfog, on Dec 02 2017 - 15:34, said:

You don't have a tier 10 tank so it really doesn't matter if you can't beat any of the clans you listed. The fact is you have no idea why this event is absolutely [edited]. You complain about good clans being good but fail to see what WG has done.  Even if you are in the top 15-20% of players and in a clan that places in the top 15-20% of clans, you will not get enough bonds to get a tank. There is the potential for 3,000 tanks to be awarded and about the same number of players on the board. Of those players, about 2,400 will get a license to 'buy' a tank but will not receive enough bonds from this event to 'buy' the tank.  

 

If WG doesn't change the rules to remove the need for bonds, there are going to be several hundred to a couple of thousand pissed off players. 

well said



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just one more trick from W.G !!

t8z5h3 #60 Posted Dec 11 2017 - 13:18

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View PostWASPIERRE, on Dec 11 2017 - 07:54, said:

just one more trick from W.G !!

 

There is no trick any player getting into this event knew the rules and prizing also the bonds requirement will not be 

removed if anything if people get mad it a good thing because it mean they care about the game.






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