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[Supertest] Update on Object 263 Line Changes


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Beorn_of_the_NorthernSea #21 Posted Dec 02 2017 - 02:56

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420 meter viewrange?!?

 

WHAT?!?



GaussDeath #22 Posted Dec 02 2017 - 04:39

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Clearly WG doesn't understand. The entire line has a 'fast firing accurate gun' thing going...and they keep trying to screw it by reducing the accuracy, reducing RoF....etc. 

The line is fine as it is!

Avalon304 #23 Posted Dec 02 2017 - 12:14

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Look guys... its simple... leave the Object 263 alone. Its fine. Find tier 9 with a rear mounted gun to put in place of the 122-54 that fits the DPM playstyle of the rest of the line.. Do not take away the uniqueness of this line because you want another generic 750 alpha boring TD at tier 10. Stop it.

 

Do not go with these changes as they are. Its a bad idea and you should feel bad about even considering it. No one likes these changes.


Edited by Avalon304, Dec 02 2017 - 17:36.


Noivy #24 Posted Dec 02 2017 - 17:34

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At this rate I don't think you're going to stop yourselves from this absolutely ridiculous line change, and I should probably just propose this.

 

Object 268v4 should have two gun options. One being the current 152 and the other one being the current 130 on the 263. Killing the accuracy values of a line whose hallmark IS said accuracy something I honestly can't begin to imagine the sheer amount of WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT. I did not grind down this line just to have another, frankly, dumbbutt, 750 alpha TD. Frankly, I agree with the tier 7 and 8 changes, but holy smokes you donkey loving idiots are absolutely shooting yourselves in the face with the tier 9 and 10 changes. This is a spit in the face, and frankly probably will be the straw that breaks my back, because up until now I've been a pretty ardent supporter of recent decisions.

 

The ONLY way I will accept these changes is the listed dual gun proposal from above, with two gun options, with the 130 keeping ALL of the regular stats from the 263 in the present, or we get the current object 263, completely unchanged, as a special tier 10 vehicle, much like the 183, 215B, and the foch 155.

 


Edited by Noivy, Dec 02 2017 - 17:58.


GENAlphawolf #25 Posted Dec 02 2017 - 20:39

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with due respect to the people at WG.....I think it best you find another way to throw in this new tier 10 because you seem to be stepping on the toes of quite a few players and it can only end badly

Dader_The_Invader #26 Posted Dec 03 2017 - 13:00

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View Postlightball20, on Dec 01 2017 - 21:27, said:

If it turns out the RU server likes it. They will make the change. Because RU > Anyone

 

I was looking forward to this line, but not now with the talk of all the changes.  I personally feel Lightball is on track with this statement.  Has anyone with an RU account looked on the RU forums to for what they are saying about it?


Edited by Dader_The_Invader, Dec 03 2017 - 14:13.


Mikosah #27 Posted Dec 03 2017 - 19:03

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View PostDader_The_Invader, on Dec 03 2017 - 06:00, said:

 

I was looking forward to this line, but not now with the talk of all the changes.  I personally feel Lightball is on track with this statement.  Has anyone with an RU account looked on the RU forums to for what they are saying about it?

 

See for yourself: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://forum.worldoftanks.ru/&prev=search

The Russkies aren't any more amused by the idea than we are.



CapPhrases #28 Posted Dec 03 2017 - 19:14

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View PostMikosah, on Dec 03 2017 - 13:03, said:

 

See for yourself: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://forum.worldoftanks.ru/&prev=search

The Russkies aren't any more amused by the idea than we are.

 

that's surprising that they don't like it either. hope this keeps WG from doing this honestly terrible idea

Sturm_Teufel #29 Posted Dec 03 2017 - 20:02

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You know, I was kinda looking forward to the SU-122-54. Now these changes makes my SU-101 crew want to defect over to crewing German tanks. :sceptic:

Mikosah #30 Posted Dec 12 2017 - 20:18

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Behold: https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2017/12/12/object-263-swap-cancelled/

If that news article has any truth to it, these changes are no longer being considered. Great success! Got 'em, bois!

 

As for the devs who want to understand why the players have rejected this proposal, here's a summary of the most crucial points.

1- The 263 was already unique, interesting, and fun. Changing it does not solve any of our problems, nor any of yours.

2- The 268v4 is generic and boring. We're already up to our necks in armored assault guns with 750 alpha at tier 10. 

3- Heavy armor is obnoxious. It forces code 22. If code 22 works, the armor is useless. If code 22 doesn't work, the armor is game-breaking.

4- Problems with the line could instead be solved much more easily and effectively with simple buffs to the tiers 7-9. 

5- Even supposing the swap hypothetically could have been an improvement, moving things around causes a lot of headaches.

6- Consistency in a tank line (aesthetic or otherwise) is a counterproductive goal to pursue. Spend your energy elsewhere. 



baconFIRE #31 Posted Dec 13 2017 - 02:57

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is it that hard just to make another tier 10 instead of taking one away, variety in tier 10 matches is always nice




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