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tannapabi #21 Posted Dec 03 2017 - 19:37

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you can unlock the fps cap. 

 

Mine runs at 160-190 with a 1080....  which is kinda meaningless.



Varathius #22 Posted Dec 03 2017 - 21:33

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View PostAltansar, on Dec 03 2017 - 15:00, said:

 

Nah, got it mainly for Star citizens haha.  It does do everything else like a boss tho :)

 

I can't wait to play that game in 2034 !

VinnyI82 #23 Posted Dec 03 2017 - 22:57

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View PostColonelShakes, on Dec 03 2017 - 10:36, said:

 

Must be annoying , as almost every single light has a frequency of 60hz.  What's it like living most of your life with lights blinking on and off constantly?  

 

Fantastic lie your 90...  Not true however.  

 

I don't lie.  Serves me nothing.  I actually have a lot of issues with bright flashing lights.  I don't go to bars with djs and all the flashy lights anymore.  Emergency vehicles with their flashing lights is really irritating during the day and especially during the night, which is when I work.

But please, let me tell you this fabulous lie...

Just because you don't believe it, doesn't make it untrue.


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Spagz #24 Posted Dec 03 2017 - 23:56

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Actually, many people can tell the difference between 60fps and 100fps. But once you go beyond 100fps, then no, the human eye can not see any difference beyond any micro-studdering that may occur (which can be caused by several things beyond the video card).

 

And no, WoT and WoWS is not very graphically demanding at all. A RX 480/580, GTX 1050ti/1060 and so on can push these games to max framerate due to the engine limitations. WoWS is actually capped at 75fps by default unless you edit the games engine_config XML file.


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ArmorStorm #25 Posted Dec 04 2017 - 00:59

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View PostAltansar, on Dec 03 2017 - 09:00, said:

 

Nah, got it mainly for Star citizens haha.  It does do everything else like a boss tho :)

 

I am so into SC, 3.0 PTU is great when it’s stable. 

CountingGeigers #26 Posted Dec 04 2017 - 01:26

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View PostColonelShakes, on Dec 03 2017 - 16:36, said:

 

Must be annoying , as almost every single light has a frequency of 60hz.  What's it like living most of your life with lights blinking on and off constantly?  

 

Fantastic lie your 90...  Not true however.  

 

View PostGarthok, on Dec 03 2017 - 19:19, said:

 

There is a huge difference between 60 frames per second and 60hz AC current powering a light. AC current has no off state, the light is continuously receiving power and therefor illuminated continuously. A simple strobe light is all that is needed to prove that people can in fact differentiate between 30, 60, 90 or even 120+ fps. The myth of 30fps being the max the human eye can differentiate has been debunked countless times in the last 20 years alone, test it yourself before stating it as a fact.

 

Incorrect info in both posts. 

AC current has 2 off states per cycle.  There is a "positive current, off, negative current, off" cycle 60 times per second.

Fluorescent lights and some HID lights such as high pressure sodium street lights 'blink' 120 times per second, not 60 times per second.  Our eyes can't detect the 120 hz blinking.  You can experience it if you can spin something 7200rpm.  It will appear stopped under these lights.  Sometimes riding a bike under streetlights you can see the effect in the front bike tire if the tread repeats the correct number of times, and going a divisible number of 7200rpm on the tire.  eg, tire tread repeats 72 times, and tire going 100rpm, it will appear stopped.  I have seen this happen.  Kinda cool.

Incandescent bulbs filaments do not cool off in 1/120th of a second, so they don't blink.



StepChild_TO #27 Posted Dec 04 2017 - 03:42

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I'm using a gtx980 get 120 solid on 1080p. if I was to play star citizen I wonder how well it would do. does really good on fallout4.

strenfoo #28 Posted Dec 04 2017 - 03:59

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View PostLesser_Spotted_Panzer, on Dec 03 2017 - 08:56, said:

Anything over 30 fps and you won't visually see any difference.

 

LOL, of course you will.  I wish people would stop spewing this nonsense about the human eye only being able to see up to 30 (or even 60) fps.  I see a huge difference between 60fps and 120fps (with WoT, it's easily noticeable when in sniper mode and slowly panning).


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View PostArmorStorm, on Dec 03 2017 - 23:59, said:

 

I am so into SC, 3.0 PTU is great when it’s stable. 

Me too, I'm playing with the thought of buying that $250 ship I had my eye on for a while now. :-)



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View PostGarthok, on Dec 03 2017 - 19:19, said:

 

There is a huge difference between 60 frames per second and 60hz AC current powering a light. AC current has no off state, the light is continuously receiving power and therefor illuminated continuously. A simple strobe light is all that is needed to prove that people can in fact differentiate between 30, 60, 90 or even 120+ fps. The myth of 30fps being the max the human eye can differentiate has been debunked countless times in the last 20 years alone, test it yourself before stating it as a fact.

 

 

 

I did prove it, in high school.  Holy mother of stupid.

Anything with a frequency over 60 / second , cannot be picked up on by the human eye.  I'll see if I can find abstracts from a couple of hundred years ago where this was proven.

 

BTW idiot ,  AC 'alternates' - it cycles.  so nope , not always on.  That's DC.  

 

Wow the derp is real with you.  Excellent fake news.  

 

Here is some detailed info on how it all really works :  

 

https://xcorr.net/20...s-can-perceive/

 

 


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View PostVinnyI82, on Dec 03 2017 - 08:07, said:

You'll never see 144fps with this game.  127 is the cap.

 

wrong you can remove the cap i get 200 to 260 fps

 

<maxFrameRate> 500 </maxFrameRate>       <<<<< you set this to what ever you want to default is 125 or 120 i think


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Diomidis #32 Posted Dec 04 2017 - 18:27

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1080Ti for 1080p gaming...overkill. Evermore so with WoT. Much like the 1000W PSU for a system that will drain 300W...but, who cares, right? Go all the way!

 

I would also blame the gaming engine caping out and/or drivers. Perhaps experiment a bit with WHQL releases, but I would not expect to see 200 fps even if the GPU had the grunt to do it. It is counter-intuitive for people, but software limitations make linear performance increases impossible. 

 

I personally max the game on a 1070 (not Ti) and 1440p being consistently above 110 fps on a 144Hz panel with G-Sync. And for naysayers, more than 60 fps and more than 60Hz both are noticeable. G-Sync/FreeSync also do.

Whether it makes a difference in how good you play, I cannot verify, but if you cannot see a difference, you did not try to, sorry.



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View PostJer1413, on Dec 03 2017 - 07:47, said:

My guess is, if you didn't have a little number telling you it's "only" 120 - 127 fps, you wouldn't know the difference.

 

I don't think the naked eye could ever tell the difference between 127 fps and 144 fps.

false. the human eye can track changes in the 400fps range. the old yarn deals with "how many pictures in how short of time until the brain is tricked into thinking its motion instead of pictures". 

your brain knows the difference, but it presents data the way you prefer it. 22fps is what it takes for your brain to say "im watching motion now, stop showing me stills".  however, thats a consistant 22fps that doesnt waver. 

 

what you want in any situation is stable fps, not large numbers. since WoT is not a twitch game, 30 or 60fps is enough for most players to be immersed. for some 120 will appear more smooth. 120/144 is just a difference in hardware. 

 

but whatever you have, consistent framerate is more important than high frame rate.

 

oh, and a side note, when a CPU shows "50%" used, that means half the cores are running at 100%. IE your processor is tapped out for what the game needs. this is due to the graphics thread being a single thread operation.  its also why for most games an i3 is the same performance as an i7 running at the same clock rate. you are limited to the single graphics thread's performance. 

 

since you have a K series CPU, overclock it and see if you get 144 that you are after, otherwise, set a frame rate cap at 72 and enjoy the experience you are actually looking for. 



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some of the things said in the replies remind me of the ole (debunked) console argument that the human eye cant see over x fps

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View PostDiomidis, on Dec 04 2017 - 11:27, said:

1080Ti for 1080p gaming...overkill. Evermore so with WoT. Much like the 1000W PSU for a system that will drain 300W...but, who cares, right? Go all the way!

 

I would also blame the gaming engine caping out and/or drivers. Perhaps experiment a bit with WHQL releases, but I would not expect to see 200 fps even if the GPU had the grunt to do it. It is counter-intuitive for people, but software limitations make linear performance increases impossible. 

 

I personally max the game on a 1070 (not Ti) and 1440p being consistently above 110 fps on a 144Hz panel with G-Sync. And for naysayers, more than 60 fps and more than 60Hz both are noticeable. G-Sync/FreeSync also do.

Whether it makes a difference in how good you play, I cannot verify, but if you cannot see a difference, you did not try to, sorry.

 

Using a more powerful power supply will cause less work, heat, wear and tear than using a lower wattage power supply.  I would not use a 350W Power Supply drawing 300W.



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When in doubt.

1) Re-seat the GPU.

2) Re-seat the power connectors.

3) Uninstall the Nvidia app, reboot and reinstall.

4) Check the power management.

 

Fairly important to follow the above steps in sequence.



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View PostUilleam72, on Dec 04 2017 - 15:10, said:

Using a more powerful power supply will cause less work, heat, wear and tear than using a lower wattage power supply.  I would not use a 350W Power Supply drawing 300W.

incorrect. power supplies are designed to operate at 50-80% load. that is the point where they are most efficiant in converting AC to DC. anything below 50% and most PSUs are generating waste heat and using more power to generate less DC power than they could at 50-80% load. 

https://www.anandtec...er-supply-myths

 

 



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just tossed an older gtx 970 into my computer (gave my son my "old" gtx 1060 6gb as his games are more demanding)... the 970 seems to give better playback, at max settings with the highest antialiasing it is within about 5fps of the 1060... I'll have to do some replays on the settings I usually use for the game (blur off, a few things turned down etc as they are pretty but distracting in actual gamebay)

 

this game doesn't need a lot to play well on 1080 or less... my old i5 4670k with onboard grpahics was plenty to play this game at 40-50fps on the build in HD4000 graphics (min settings)... 


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View PostRed_Ensign, on Dec 03 2017 - 18:25, said:

with a hardware change as big as this, I'd wipe the hard drive and reinstall windows and your games.  even if this game's fps is capped.

 

when I upgraded my card this last time (to a 1050ti not a 1080) I just installed the card and the newest drivers and booted up one of my games, because I was anxious to check it out, and the performance wasn't what everyone said it should be.  so I wiped the drive and reinstalled everything and it was WAY better.  a full reinstall just lets windows and everything shake hands with the new hardware much better.

 

I did driver wipes and it made a huge difference :)



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View PostDiomidis, on Dec 04 2017 - 17:27, said:

1080Ti for 1080p gaming...overkill. Evermore so with WoT. Much like the 1000W PSU for a system that will drain 300W...but, who cares, right? Go all the way!

 

I would also blame the gaming engine caping out and/or drivers. Perhaps experiment a bit with WHQL releases, but I would not expect to see 200 fps even if the GPU had the grunt to do it. It is counter-intuitive for people, but software limitations make linear performance increases impossible. 

 

I personally max the game on a 1070 (not Ti) and 1440p being consistently above 110 fps on a 144Hz panel with G-Sync. And for naysayers, more than 60 fps and more than 60Hz both are noticeable. G-Sync/FreeSync also do.

Whether it makes a difference in how good you play, I cannot verify, but if you cannot see a difference, you did not try to, sorry.

 

Waiting on 4K monitor to come in so...

An the 1000 PSU is from when I was from when I ran SLI 295gtx's.  Thing is old, but just keeps going.

 

Edited because I forgot language :P


Edited by Altansar, Dec 05 2017 - 03:30.






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