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[CabbageMechanic]

Hey Tankers,

New to the Supertest is the new Tier 8 Premium T-44 ltwt.  This tank is a capable scout with excellent mobility, view range, and stabilization.  Check it:

 

Let us know what you think - comparisons to the M41 90 and T92 LT especially.

 

 

[DoctorThe19th]

but nothing can compare to the Blackdog because it's a pre nerf light

[LAPPELduvide]

cool, at least it's faster than the T92 LT

[DoctorThe19th]

ChokeMe_WhipMe_Maika, on Dec 04 2017 - 11:01, said:

cool, at least it's faster than the T92 LT

but T92 goes faster in reverse

[Strike_Witch_Tomoko]

rip T-44

[Cowcat137]

What exactly is light about this tank? 25mm frontal armor is light. 30mm even. Those crazy Russians.

[nxp]

only 210 pen with prem round? ewwwwwwwwww now i can't auto win.

Edited by nxp, Dec 04 2017 - 20:24.

[Hawk1_2007]

Looks like a fun little baby ltwt that can stomp on 6's & 7's.  Hopefully has decent ammo capacity.

[Orion3]

Hawk1_2007, on Dec 04 2017 - 14:36, said:

Looks like a fun little baby ltwt that can stomp on 6's & 7's.  Hopefully has decent ammo capacity.

 

That's the thing. With the new MM, things like this has a chance at being top tier like the other lights and will just out spot 6,7 and 8 vehicles except other tier 8 lights.  Glad for the light drivers but say a tier 6-7 heavy will just get plucked to death and this thing won't even be spotted. 

[Hawk1_2007]

Yeah, this looks like it's similar to an LTTB with better DPM (better than even pre 9.18 LTTB) better pen and aim time but worse power/wt and accuracy.  Would probably buy but will have to see what the final stats look like.

Edited by Hawk1_2007, Dec 04 2017 - 21:09.

[Plays_With_Matches]

dir32jd, on Dec 04 2017 - 14:01, said:

but nothing can compare to the Blackdog because it's a pre nerf light

 

Shhh... don't tell anyone

[thandiflight]

Does it have a borked tier V engine that breaks when somebody looks at you? Is this the new balance mechanic for tier VIII premium lights?

[Awestryker]

dir32jd, on Dec 04 2017 - 14:02, said:

but T92 goes faster in reverse

 

T92 needs an engine health buff...the engine health on that thing is ridiculous...I bet it gets a dead engine nearly every match...

[The_Diadect]

it's better than the t92 in almost every aspect apart from minor gun handling. ffs

[Avalon304]

Looks balanced. Will buy.

[indoctrinated]

Is this supposed to be a bully tank or something? 210 premium pen on a tier 8 machine?

[Mikosah]

dir32jd, on Dec 04 2017 - 13:01, said:

but nothing can compare to the Blackdog because it's a pre nerf light

 

This in a nutshell is the problem- the M41-90 was actually given the tools it needs to be a proper light tank at tier 8, while most non-premium lights were needlessly nerfed when scout MM was removed. Balancing to match the M41-90 is the goal here, and other light tanks should be buffed to meet this standard. Considering the nature of tier 8 MM and the scarcity of scout-friendly maps, the meta can easily stay intact even after a substantial buff to the entire light tank class.

 

As of the T-44 LW, I do think the 2.35k base DPM (as was quoted here: https://ritastatusreport.live/2017/12/04/t-44-lt-new-stats/ ) is appropriate for its tier and class. If not for that one feature, the T-44 LW would be an incredibly generic and boring tank to play.

[Elite0077]

Nothing but russian bias and cheating.  Every other nation a light = no armor Russian tank = medium armor of equal other nations medium armors. That thing should have only 50 armor max  just like WG to OP the damn thing.

Edited by Elite0077, Dec 06 2017 - 22:05.

[ArcticTankHunter]

Please give it less frontal hull armor than normal T-44. It should not be the same. 76mm guns will not go through the armor when its angled.

 

Max 75mm. Min 50mm for balance. As long as its not 90mm.

 

It is suppose to be an LT. With the new class MM rules it can completely ruin the balance of MM. A LT playing like a Medium tank which is even faster.

 

Yup 90mm default hull armor is way too much. This didn't even include angling.

https://tanks.gg/v09...t-44-ltwt/model

 

It should get less hull armor than the T-54 lwt. 75mm is reasonable.

https://tanks.gg/v09...t-54-ltwt/model

Edited by ArcticTankHunter, Jan 27 2018 - 01:18.

[ThePigSheFlies]

0.4 dispersion with low penetration and a map meta featuring 3 lanes with over buffed heavies and assault td's makes me scratch my head over who the presumed audience is for this tank.

 

on top of that, with the T100LT losing a crew member vs. the earlier tiers I am curious of the crew layout for this tank.  ideally the tank itself should be a 'meta tank' for a competitive game mode, and/or train crews for a tank that has the same layout.

 

take the Type 64 at tier 6.  it has an unneeded 5th crew member that is worthwhile keeping in it because the tank itself is fun enough to pub in, as well as being competitive as a tier 6 meta tank for strong holds.

 

regardless, I cannot compare to the two tanks in question because you have only offered them in the premium shop, and almost always in an over bundled offering - a tactic that has precluded me from acquiring the tanks in question as I refuse to chase those carrots.  (and, since they're also only in the premium shop, I can't even try them out in test)