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HOTA_CHATON #21 Posted Dec 06 2017 - 18:26

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View Postthe_dude_76, on Dec 06 2017 - 09:59, said:

 

WG rarely nerfs tanks that people buy with actual money. Off the top of my head I can only think of it happening to two tanks, the Type 59 and the Super Pershing. People expect refunds when they've taken money out of their own pockets and WG wants nothing to do with giving money back to people.

 

The only tank that ever really got nerfed was the Type 59.  The Super Pershing only had a single MM of total armor removed from the hull and turret so that really does not qualify as a nerf.  The added armor was actually just corrected to historically correctness of one plate angled at a much better angle instead of two plates at the wrong but, penetrable angle.  So actually, I considered it a buff as the plate became better, not worse.  Yes, I have one, yes, I play mine, and no, I have never even entertained the idea of abandoning my SP.  It is and always be the original crew, tank, etc, and will never be sold, no matter how bed it gets.

Gang_Starr #22 Posted Dec 06 2017 - 18:28

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View Postdir32jd, on Dec 06 2017 - 12:20, said:

 

So you're saying you ONLY buy tanks that are OP?

Well there's one less person to listen too.

 

No, the guy in post #1 mentioned he is afraid that the "OP attributes" of the STG may get nerfed. I responded by saying that the tank has no OP attributes to begin with. 

 

Please learn how to read and interpret basic information. Stop making yourself look like a complete moron.



dir32jd #23 Posted Dec 06 2017 - 18:32

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View PostGang_Starr, on Dec 06 2017 - 09:28, said:

 

No, the guy in post #1 mentioned he is afraid that the "OP attributes" of the STG may get nerfed. I responded by saying that the tank has no OP attributes to begin with. 

 

Please learn how to read and interpret basic information. Stop making yourself look like a complete moron.

 

Aww but that's you who's doing that.

Maybe for one fact that this is one of only 3 mediums that has a big damaging gun, that has the best gun handling for a big alpha damaging gun and it's the best of the three derp tier 8 premium mediums.

Now to wait for you to complain about how the T-34-3 is so much better.


Edited by dir32jd, Dec 06 2017 - 18:33.


Gang_Starr #24 Posted Dec 06 2017 - 18:34

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View Postdir32jd, on Dec 06 2017 - 12:32, said:

 

Aww but that's you who's doing that.

Maybe for one fact that this is one of only 3 mediums that has a big damaging gun, that has the best gun handling for a big alpha damaging gun and it's the best of the three derp tier 8 premium mediums.

 

none of those are "OP attributes" please try again.

dir32jd #25 Posted Dec 06 2017 - 18:35

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View PostGang_Starr, on Dec 06 2017 - 09:34, said:

 

none of those are "OP attributes" please try again.

 

pretty op when you compare them to the only other two options (considering the best gun handling) and compare them to all the other tier 8 premium mediums (considering the gun's big damage). please try again without the [edited]reply.

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View PostI_QQ_4_U, on Dec 06 2017 - 10:12, said:

 

Name them then.

 

Go be a prick somewhere else ...

DrexMaverick #27 Posted Dec 06 2017 - 18:41

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I know when they make changes to tanks that I buy because they don't work the same anymore!

SpitYoYoMafia #28 Posted Dec 06 2017 - 18:45

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View PostGang_Starr, on Dec 06 2017 - 09:34, said:

 

none of those are "OP attributes" please try again.

 

I suggest that you stop arguing with that person, doing so is pointless and people like that follow you around the forums.

Gang_Starr #29 Posted Dec 06 2017 - 18:45

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View Postdir32jd, on Dec 06 2017 - 12:35, said:

 

pretty op when you compare them to the only other two options (considering the best gun handling) and compare them to all the other tier 8 premium mediums (considering the gun's big damage). please try again without the [edited]reply.

 

 

You must not understand what "OP" means. It doesn't mean "good," it means way better than it should be to the point where it is game-breaking. For example - the armor on the Defender is an "OP attribute," the Camo value on the E25 is an "OP attribute," etc.. 

 

Read again slowly - the STG has no "OP" attributes.



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View PostDrexMaverick, on Dec 06 2017 - 16:09, said:

 

Me I'm the source. Its called experience! And I've seen tons of other complaints about the many changes they make to tanks after they are bought and become popular ...

 

View PostI_QQ_4_U, on Dec 06 2017 - 16:12, said:

 

Name them then.

 

View PostDrexMaverick, on Dec 06 2017 - 17:40, said:

 

Go be a prick somewhere else ...

 

You made a claim and he asked for actual objective (non-anecdotal evidence) and you respond with an Ad Hominem. This reduces your credibility and thus weakens your argument.

 

They really need to make passing a critical thinking skills course in order to graduate High School.



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View PostGang_Starr, on Dec 06 2017 - 09:45, said:

You must not understand what "OP" means. It doesn't mean "good," it means way better than it should be to the point where it is game-breaking. For example - the armor on the Defender is an "OP attribute," the Camo value on the E25 is an "OP attribute," etc.. 

 

Read again slowly - the STG has no "OP" attributes.

 

Defender's armor isn't op when it meets tier 10s.

try again.

If you count that as "OP" then so is the Liberte because it bounces tier 10 tanks regularly.

 

Read again what "OP" means.

 

View PostSpitYoYoMafia, on Dec 06 2017 - 09:45, said:

 

I suggest that you stop arguing with that person, doing so is pointless and people like that follow you around the forums.

 

whatever you say "experienced" player.

 

 



Gang_Starr #32 Posted Dec 06 2017 - 18:48

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View PostSpitYoYoMafia, on Dec 06 2017 - 12:45, said:

 

I suggest that you stop arguing with that person, doing so is pointless and people like that follow you around the forums.

 

He has been butthurt ever since he realized that he has no understanding of how the game works and his baddie opinions on how to play mean nothing to anyone.

Gang_Starr #33 Posted Dec 06 2017 - 18:51

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View Postdir32jd, on Dec 06 2017 - 12:47, said:

 

Defender's armor isn't op when it meets tier 10s.

try again..

 

Ahhhh okay, so the armor on a tier 8 HT is not OP because tier 10s can pen it LOL. That is some solid logic.

 

 

 



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I'm on the fence in buying this tank as well.  I love the big 122mm guns and the alpha they put out.  Reload doesn't mean much if you have decent map awareness and don't get caught in the open while reloading (but we all make mistakes!).  I think I'm hoping there's a better advent tank I've been wanting that comes out before the STG/Guard offer is up.

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View PostGang_Starr, on Dec 06 2017 - 09:51, said:

 

Ahhhh okay, so the armor on a tier 8 HT is not OP because tier 10s can pen it LOL. That is some solid logic.

 

 

 

 

TBH it's not just the armor but its alpha is stupid as well

dir32jd #36 Posted Dec 06 2017 - 19:05

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View PostGang_Starr, on Dec 06 2017 - 09:51, said:

 

Ahhhh okay, so the armor on a tier 8 HT is not OP because tier 10s can pen it LOL. That is some solid logic.

 

 

 

 

And it's solid logic saying the tank is OP without saying anything OP about it? it's good probably even great but OP only comes into play if the driver is good.

 

View PostSpitYoYoMafia, on Dec 06 2017 - 10:02, said:

 

TBH it's not just the armor but its alpha is stupid as well

are you saying the gun is OP on that tank?

if you are re look at it's stats for the gun handling lol.. they're not going to be pretty for any 122mm tank usually.



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View Postdir32jd, on Dec 06 2017 - 10:05, said:

 

And it's solid logic saying the tank is OP without saying anything OP about it? it's good probably even great but OP only comes into play if the driver is good.

 

are you saying the gun is OP on that tank?

if you are re look at it's stats for the gun handling lol.. they're not going to be pretty for any 122mm tank usually.

 

dispersion does not matter soft stats do, and as for soft stats russian heavies have that

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View PostDrexMaverick, on Dec 06 2017 - 18:40, said:

 

Go be a prick somewhere else ...

 

As soon as you name one premium tank, other then the 59 and perhaps the SP, that has been nerfed. I expect to keep being a prick though.

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View Postdir32jd, on Dec 06 2017 - 18:35, said:

 

pretty op when you compare them to the only other two options (considering the best gun handling) and compare them to all the other tier 8 premium mediums (considering the gun's big damage). please try again without the [edited]reply.

 

A good gun doesn't make it OP, if that gun was on a tank with superheavy armour, the mobility of a light tank and the camo of an E25 then it would be OP.

dir32jd #40 Posted Dec 06 2017 - 19:42

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View PostI_QQ_4_U, on Dec 06 2017 - 10:39, said:

 

A good gun doesn't make it OP, if that gun was on a tank with superheavy armour, the mobility of a light tank and the camo of an E25 then it would be OP.

 

just one of those features doesn't make a tank OP by itself then.. it would need all of that.

 






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