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Case_N_Point #41 Posted Dec 07 2017 - 18:34

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Yeah I got one a long time ago and I played it honestly 3-5 games this entire year.  I keep wanting to like it but it's just not very effective in today's meta.  It has good gun depression, pen, and turret armor.  That's all it has IMO.

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I like mine. Decent pen on the almost exclusive T10 games it gets and great silver grinder. If I need silver fast I will alternate games with Lowe and T34 and problem solved. Lowe is still my absolute fav heavy prem tank anyway, but T34 can be good with some planing ahead. Just don't go alone to a flank, hull down and it's ok.

Scarap #43 Posted Dec 07 2017 - 18:58

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It's been power creeped to almost death. 

It seems everything pens it, even though everyone seems to think it has turret armor. 

Most shots hit the dirt, shoot the moon or bounce. 

Reload time is garbage. 

It's slow and sees almost all T10 matches. 

Rarely play mine anymore, I feel ripped off.  I make more credits in the type 64 than in this POS now.



Horribad_At_Tanks #44 Posted Dec 07 2017 - 19:43

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View Postboysenbeary, on Dec 07 2017 - 12:19, said:

I cri because I actually like my T34, and though it may be obsolete, I still feel like it is semi-competitive

 

Given the corridor nature of the maps its hard to not do well in the lane you find yourself in but the poor mobility crosses it off as a carry tank because you simply cannot flex reliably in it which is how you save games from failing flanks. 

mcclada #45 Posted Dec 07 2017 - 21:30

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The changing meta has left it behind. Higher tier lights are much more common now due to the rework and are harder to kill/hit. Acc is bad, and so is the aim time. It's pretty much outclassed by the Patriot. Unless you luck out and face a deficient red team, you're support and that's pretty much it. 

Overall, it's a credit earner and stat killer. 



badmonkey59 #46 Posted Dec 07 2017 - 21:55

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To be competitive now the T34 would almost need to be returned to its original tier 9 stats. That is how much power creep has come into the game in the past 5 years.

black_colt #47 Posted Dec 07 2017 - 22:00

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View PostCannonitus, on Dec 07 2017 - 09:12, said:

 

Power creep has not been healthy for this tank. These suggestions would be a good start. I say improve the terrain handling some as well. The T34 is a T29 with a bigger gun. It should drive more similar to a T29 than it currently does.

 

Reviewed the mobility and a change in the terrain handling has a lot of merit as well.

 

Since I think of the T34 as a sibling of the T28 Prototype perhaps the differences between those vehicles should be very small.  Proposing the following changes to the T34:

 

Rate-of-fire: 5 rounds-per-minute [this will raise DPM to 2000]

 

Aim-time: 2.6 seconds

 

Dispersion Values:

 

moving: 0.19

while traversing the tank: 0.19

while traversing the turret: 0.15

 

Terrain Resistance Values:

 

hard: 1.05

medium: 1.34

soft: 2.78

 

Terrain Effective Values:

 

hard: 23

soft: 11

 

These values should make the T34 unique [fully traversable turret and better mobility] compared to the T28 Prototype but not having higher DPM or Potential Damage when compared to non-Premium Tier VIII heavy tanks.  

 

 


Edited by black_colt, Dec 07 2017 - 22:02.


Scarap #48 Posted Dec 08 2017 - 02:01

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View Postblack_colt, on Dec 07 2017 - 16:00, said:

Since I think of the T34 as a sibling of the T28 Prototype perhaps the differences between those vehicles should be very small.  Proposing the following changes to the T34:

 

Same gun and funny thing is the Prototype has 1 loader but the T34 has 2 but reloads almost 5 seconds longer.  

 

Prototype is a far superior tank.



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View PostScarap, on Dec 07 2017 - 20:01, said:

 

Same gun and funny thing is the Prototype has 1 loader but the T34 has 2 but reloads almost 5 seconds longer.  

 

Prototype is a far superior tank.

 

The power creep is at fault. When the t34 first sold it was actually quite competitive but armour and meta have left it far far behind.

RingZero #50 Posted Dec 08 2017 - 02:16

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View PostXeraux, on Dec 06 2017 - 13:37, said:

Yes. 100% obsolete.

 



SpitYoYoMafia #51 Posted Dec 08 2017 - 04:47

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IDK< maybe if it had 1800 DPM it wouldn't be so trashy, but they refuse to fix the #1 issue that the tank has and that's putting shots down range and holding flanks

sergeantmine09 #52 Posted Dec 08 2017 - 17:50

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View Postsabermammoth, on Dec 06 2017 - 22:39, said:

2 things the t34 has -

turret armor

shell pen

beyond that its crap

 

But with Russian Overmatch, a cupola that sticks out a little too much, and the way tier 8 MM is, the turret armor is useless.



sergeantmine09 #53 Posted Dec 08 2017 - 17:52

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View PostScarap, on Dec 08 2017 - 02:01, said:

 

Same gun and funny thing is the Prototype has 1 loader but the T34 has 2 but reloads almost 5 seconds longer.  

 

Prototype is a far superior tank.

 

I think the Prot. has better frontal and turret armor too. I could easily pen a T34 when I saw them in my A-43(when I used it). But when I saw a Prot. I couldn't do jack sh** to the front so I'd turn around and run like hell




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