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Wtornado #21 Posted Dec 07 2017 - 00:17

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View PostInfinityShadow, on Dec 06 2017 - 16:32, said:

I'm just curious as to what other people think, but IMO I feel like the T34 is just...obsolete these days.

 

Compared to all the other tanks that have been released that do not have pref MM, the T34 has nothing special to it. The T34 isn't the only one tho sadly. There are several tanks that have just been left behind.

 

You rarely ever see a CDC, FCM, T34, and some i'm probably forgetting like you use to.

 

I run cola on my to increase it's performance and I still feel like I do less dmg then any of my other T8 prems, It has poor mobility, i feel like the turret armor is meh anymore, poor reload, meh accuracy, the aim time is terrible...I mean what does the tank have going for it other then pen that feels like that's not even special anymore.

 

I feel like i'm lucky if i can get a 100k credit game in it when i can go play my skorp, lorraine, fv4202, M41 90MM, wz-120 and make 100k credit games nearly every time.

 

I use to hate the lowe and now i prefer the lowe way more than the T34. The lowe has received needed buffs, but the T34 hasn't?

 

 

 

Yes! Next question?



Komitadjie #22 Posted Dec 07 2017 - 00:18

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Also makes the critical difference that a 122 will overmatch a 40mm plate for a full damage roll... A 120 will bounce for zero.

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View PostHorribad_At_Tanks, on Dec 06 2017 - 17:04, said:

 

Simple fix then. Turn the t34 into a premium td!  :P But an even simpler fix would be the buff the gun handling a fair bit and increase the roof armour so it's not overmatched so easily. I'd even suggest upping the dpm a bit but you can only ask for so much..

 

No. Fine as a heavy tank.

Sturmgeschut #24 Posted Dec 07 2017 - 02:18

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View PostISNomads, on Dec 06 2017 - 14:02, said:

For me, T34 has been a primary crew trainer and credit earner. I don't see how that is obsolete.

 

Because everything save for the mantlet is awful.

 

The gun has good pen and ok damage but everything else about it is awful.

 

Why use the T34 when you can use the Patriot?



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IMO a gun handling buff is all it needs.

commander42 #26 Posted Dec 07 2017 - 03:15

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it has long been obsolete, just getting worse and worse so even the parts of it that were good before get caught up to as well

the only things it used to have going for it was great pen and very good alpha and good turret armor(not great cause of stupid weakspots)

new t8s come out that close that pen advantage, pass it in alpha, and pass it in turret armor, which leaves it with no real trade off for the terrible mobility and terrible gun handling and terrible dpm
 



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The T34 has been obsolete for a while now, but don't expect the WG meat heads to give a $h!t enough to give you your money back.

 

The game is crap now anyway.



Gothraul #28 Posted Dec 07 2017 - 04:29

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Fix the dated handling and low base dpm then it would be one of the better premiums, still need to improve the sLowe's dpm but at least all the other buffs have done wonders.

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View PostInfinityShadow, on Dec 06 2017 - 15:32, said:

 

You rarely ever see a CDC, FCM, T34, and some i'm probably forgetting like you use to.

 

 

 

I have all three of those... (well the t34 is a B and I just got it)... I'd rather play the cdc or fcm over the t34... slow lumbering HTs suck... I can deal with poor gun handling and slow reload (t-34-3 is one of my fav prems) but it has mobility... which is why I don't mind the cdc or FCM... in fact the FCM is nice for some of the HT personal missions because it is quick and mobile... 



Smooky_Le_chien_husky #30 Posted Dec 07 2017 - 07:06

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Yep i sold mine bye bye t34 .WG nerf nerf nerf a lots . and scraped the match maker too anyways this game will go to 0 profit i zip my wallet

eXs11 #31 Posted Dec 07 2017 - 07:41

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I don't think it's obsolete... it was basically my first ever premium tank and I still love it to this day... basically a t9 gun at t8 with a real nice turret... ya you can hit the hatch but what exactly were you expecting? people have gotten greedy with their prems and just expect every tank to be p2w these days... and then the same people complain about how WG is releasing all these p2w tanks... so which one is it? WG is just selling p2w tanks or WG is stealing your money with bad prems? decide on one cause these two things together don't make any sense... I think T34 can use a buff... some DPM and mobility will go a long way... not a lot, but a bit... it is still one of the most profitable tanks in the game... so yes it works well still... it earns you credits, it grins you crew... I'm sorry it's not a 'press W and win' tank but I have a feeling the uprising would be even worse if it would be... nyet comrade, tank iz fine!

bikebudha1 #32 Posted Dec 07 2017 - 09:04

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got the t34b last month, was excited until I played it.  The hull is so weak, tier 6 can pen it.  You have to be 'hull down', which just isn't possible to the extent it needs to be 100% of the time...

VinnyI82 #33 Posted Dec 07 2017 - 11:18

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I was at ~92-93% to third mark on the T34.

Then 9.7 hit.

T34 is straight up trash (now).


Edited by VinnyI82, Dec 07 2017 - 11:18.


Marchosia #34 Posted Dec 07 2017 - 16:09

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Was a big fan of this tank - not so much anymore due to all the other options i have now now.  But I gotta say, I felt awful jumping on the death star bandwagon, and one shotting them in two consecutive games.  lol

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View PostSturmgeschut, on Dec 06 2017 - 20:18, said:

 

Because everything save for the mantlet is awful.

 

The gun has good pen and ok damage but everything else about it is awful.

 

Why use the T34 when you can use the Patriot?

 

The only thing the T34 has over the Patriot is both standard and APCR has better pen.

Other than that, yeah, the Patriot is the better overall performer.



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View PostHorribad_At_Tanks, on Dec 07 2017 - 00:15, said:

 

For an he shell sure as the extra 2mm can add up to a fairly large increase in internal volume. For ap and apcr? I suppose the extra mass might give a slight increase and as the defenders alpha is actually 440 then it seems reasonable.

 

 

Ahh yes you are right, I stand corrected on the 252U alpha.


 


 



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View PostMarchosia, on Dec 07 2017 - 16:09, said:

Was a big fan of this tank - not so much anymore due to all the other options i have now now.  But I gotta say, I felt awful jumping on the death star bandwagon, and one shotting them in two consecutive games.  lol

 

 

Don't ever feel awful one shotting anything in the death star.  You had to aim the gun for a full fortnight and praise jesus for the shell to actually land where you wanted it to.  Now if it still had 270+ hesh pen...then you should probably feel a tad bit scummy!



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View PostInfinityShadow, on Dec 06 2017 - 13:32, said:

I'm just curious as to what other people think, but IMO I feel like the T34 is just...obsolete these days.

 

Compared to all the other tanks that have been released that do not have pref MM, the T34 has nothing special to it. The T34 isn't the only one tho sadly. There are several tanks that have just been left behind.

 

You rarely ever see a CDC, FCM, T34, and some i'm probably forgetting like you use to.

 

I run cola on my to increase it's performance and I still feel like I do less dmg then any of my other T8 prems, It has poor mobility, i feel like the turret armor is meh anymore, poor reload, meh accuracy, the aim time is terrible...I mean what does the tank have going for it other then pen that feels like that's not even special anymore.

 

I feel like i'm lucky if i can get a 100k credit game in it when i can go play my skorp, lorraine, fv4202, M41 90MM, wz-120 and make 100k credit games nearly every time.

 

I use to hate the lowe and now i prefer the lowe way more than the T34. The lowe has received needed buffs, but the T34 hasn't?

 

 

 

I think obsolete is not the most descriptive word to use for the current parameters of the T34.  Not-Competitive IMHO is more accurate.

 

The vehicle is capable but the current Match-making and maps do not allow it to perform well in comparison to recently introduced and buffed Premium USA heavy vehicles - e.g. the T26E5 and the Löwe

 

IMHO a small buff to the gun handling would make the T34 more competitive and should not significantly disrupt overall game play - e.g. decrease aim-time to 2.7 sec 2.9 sec, increase rate-of-fire to 4.8 4.5 rounds per minute, decrease dispersion when moving and tank traversing to 0.22, decrease the dispersion for turret traverse to 0.17 and increase the shell velocity to 1000 m/s.

 

Why?

 

IMHO an increase in DPM and accuracy would make this vehicle more flexible and better equipped to compete.  The vehicle would still have frontal weak points, you would still need to play the vehicle carefully due to its speed and size, and the increased DPM and accuracy would allow you to have a fighting chance if you over-commit or get rushed.


Edited by black_colt, Dec 07 2017 - 17:50.


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View Postblack_colt, on Dec 07 2017 - 10:18, said:

 

I think obsolete is not the most descriptive word to use for the current parameters of the T34.  Not-Competitive IMHO is more accurate.

 

The vehicle is capable but the current Match-making and maps do not allow it to perform well in comparison to recently introduced and buffed Premium USA heavy vehicles - e.g. the T26E5 and the Löwe

 

IMHO a small buff to the gun handling would make the T34 more competitive and should not significantly disrupt overall game play - e.g. decrease aim-time to 2.7 sec 2.9 sec, increase rate-of-fire to 4.8 4.5 rounds per minute, decrease dispersion when moving and tank traversing to 0.22, decrease the dispersion for turret traverse to 0.17 and increase the shell velocity to 1000 m/s.

 

Why?

 

IMHO an increase in DPM and accuracy would make this vehicle more flexible and better equipped to compete.  The vehicle would still have frontal weak points, you would still need to play the vehicle carefully due to its speed and size, and the increased DPM and accuracy would allow you to have a fighting chance if you over-commit or get rushed.

 

Power creep has not been healthy for this tank. These suggestions would be a good start. I say improve the terrain handling some as well. The T34 is a T29 with a bigger gun. It should drive more similar to a T29 than it currently does.


Edited by Cannonitus, Dec 07 2017 - 18:13.


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I cri because I actually like my T34, and though it may be obsolete, I still feel like it is semi-competitive




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