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Diomidis #21 Posted Dec 08 2017 - 00:17

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All changes that lead to you keeping your tank as a premium were at Tier 10. All of them were typically under-utilized / less desirable, and WG pulled some trick to make their lines more desirable / force some movement around that tree line etc. I don't see many people crying about the Foch 155 or the FV215b or the FV215b 183 being broken and OP. Especially the 183 that had its nerf from the times the Waffle was around already.

 

The Waffle E100 was deemed completely broken and abused as a i-win button, thus it was replaced / removed from the game. Exactly because it was NOT a premium that would not get to linger around despite being totally OP/broken.

 

I don't say that the Foch B cannot do close to the same @@, time will tell. For sure it doesn't have a turret and for sure it has been "balanced" to counter a different high-tier superheavy HP/Armor etc situation altogether: it is pretty important that many tanks are different now.

But when the time for the Foch B to be nerfed or replaced comes, I bet people like you will want to be privileged and keep their broken tank "as-is" forever.

 

The argument? I got to see and appreciate the abuse potential first, so I get to keep it?

It is counter-intuitive to see past our personal interest/wish/enjoyment, and threads like this make it obvious.


Edited by Diomidis, Dec 08 2017 - 00:22.


84Doc04 #22 Posted Dec 08 2017 - 01:27

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View Postbadmonkey59, on Dec 07 2017 - 16:31, said:

 

All true.

 

I only miss 2 tanks in this game. The Waffle and the old Hellcat.

 

The old Hellcat and the old AMX ELC

WangOnTheLoose #23 Posted Dec 08 2017 - 01:43

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View Postbadmonkey59, on Dec 07 2017 - 16:19, said:

I've been playing this game a long time... a very long time. I owned the T34 when it was a tier 9 heavy. Wargaming gave us the M103 and we got to keep the T34 as the new tier 8 premium tank. The tier 10 T30 heavy became a tier 9 TD and we got the T110E5. Over the years WG has changed or removed tanks and they were very generous in their accommodations to the owners. One of the best was the tier 5/6 Russian heavy change and techtree branch addition that put 3 or 4 tanks in my garage. There was also a change in the British line that gave people a free premium if they owned the techtree version.

 

Then things changed for a while.....

 

The tier 9 Lorraine was removed and came back as a premium. If you owned it, too bad. You only got the tier 9 replacement.

The tier 10 Waffle E100 was removed and we got the Grille 15 in its place. Then they nerfed the heck out of it. (I still don't understand this one especially with the introduction of the Foch 155 B).

 

Now.....

 

They keep changing tier 10s and letting us keep the old one as a premium 'legacy' tank.

 

The point is...... wait for it........ I want my free Lorraine and the Waffle E100 back.

 

I loved the Waffle E100. I was as big as a house and had no camo value at all, unlike the Foch 155 B. It was still ridiculously fun to play.

 

Yeah, losing the Tier IX Lorraine sucked.  I really liked that tank.  The Waffle doesn't look like it will ever come back, it was a pretty ridiculous tank.

badmonkey59 #24 Posted Dec 10 2017 - 19:58

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View Postdir32jd, on Dec 07 2017 - 16:14, said:

If you want it back go to the Chinese server.

I would like the T-50-2 back but tough luck so far

 

I could never play the T-50-2 correctly. It was just too fast for my slow brain.

badmonkey59 #25 Posted Dec 10 2017 - 19:59

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View Postdir32jd, on Dec 07 2017 - 16:14, said:

If you want it back go to the Chinese server.

I would like the T-50-2 back but tough luck so far

 

I could never play the T-50-2 correctly. It was just too fast for my slow brain.

 

EDIT: This comment was so good the website posted it twice :)


Edited by badmonkey59, Dec 10 2017 - 20:00.


badmonkey59 #26 Posted Dec 10 2017 - 20:03

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View PostDiomidis, on Dec 07 2017 - 17:17, said:

All changes that lead to you keeping your tank as a premium were at Tier 10. All of them were typically under-utilized / less desirable, and WG pulled some trick to make their lines more desirable / force some movement around that tree line etc. I don't see many people crying about the Foch 155 or the FV215b or the FV215b 183 being broken and OP. Especially the 183 that had its nerf from the times the Waffle was around already.

 

The Waffle E100 was deemed completely broken and abused as a i-win button, thus it was replaced / removed from the game. Exactly because it was NOT a premium that would not get to linger around despite being totally OP/broken.

 

I don't say that the Foch B cannot do close to the same @@, time will tell. For sure it doesn't have a turret and for sure it has been "balanced" to counter a different high-tier superheavy HP/Armor etc situation altogether: it is pretty important that many tanks are different now.

But when the time for the Foch B to be nerfed or replaced comes, I bet people like you will want to be privileged and keep their broken tank "as-is" forever.

 

The argument? I got to see and appreciate the abuse potential first, so I get to keep it?

It is counter-intuitive to see past our personal interest/wish/enjoyment, and threads like this make it obvious.

 

Most people saw I was kidding around...... :(

 



badmonkey59 #27 Posted Dec 10 2017 - 20:06

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View PostWangOnTheLoose, on Dec 07 2017 - 18:43, said:

 

Yeah, losing the Tier IX Lorraine sucked.  I really liked that tank.  The Waffle doesn't look like it will ever come back, it was a pretty ridiculous tank.

 

It was an excellent tier 8 that was in a tier 9 slot. IMO

sergeantmine09 #28 Posted Dec 10 2017 - 22:04

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View Postbadmonkey59, on Dec 07 2017 - 22:27, said:

 

I know. Unlike the invisible Foch 155 B that can also clip out a tank, still bounce shots and get away with really good speed. At least the Waffle lit up like a Christmas Tree when it fired and everyone could shoot it.

 

Here is my two cents. So the Foch 155 after the nerf had 1.8k potential in the clip. Yes it could possibly clip a tank with luck, but for the most part was pretty okay. The Waffentranger E 100? One gun had 3k damage potential in a clip, and the other had a little bit above 3k potential damage in a clip. So that could POTENTIALLY kill one tank, and seriously damage another. 



I_QQ_4_U #29 Posted Dec 11 2017 - 00:34

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When did high tier French TD's get high camo? My Skorpion G had much better camo with a slightly worse camo crew and it's not known for being stealthy.




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