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rodzilla01mccloud #1 Posted Dec 12 2017 - 04:26

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I seldom ever post on any forum.  I just wanted to post about the great number of people cheating by using illegal mods.   Many will try to sell the point that its only a few.  However,  its not just few,  I'm seldom in a random match where someone isn't using the zoom out mod, the reload timer, fire hacks, aimbots and trigger bots.  Many times the team with the most cheat mods is the team that wins.  I've been playing for years and lately the cheaters are worse than ever as far as numbers go.  I don't use any mods at all.  I really wish they could disable mods.  I've discussed this with other players and many people believe that wargamming is profiting from the cheat mods like war pack and has no intention of banning anyone using it.  I pay for a premium account each month, however I'm to the point that I feel the cons out weight the pros in this game.  Reduced credits so you have a harder time grinding credits than exp.  Pay to win tanks like the E25, and cheat mods allowed like war pack have taken a huge toll on this game.  I'm seriously looking for a better game.  Better meaning a game where they put forth and honest effort to control cheating.  What is the point of playing a game where cheating is allowed?  I'm going to take the $$ I'm spending here and apply it to a different game in the near future.  I really hate losing all the time and effort I have in this game but the cheating is out of control.

Orion3 #2 Posted Dec 12 2017 - 04:31

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How can you tell if they're cheating? WG added zoom out and has auto aim. Not sure what the other ones are.

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Please show us even one replay where you have confirmation of cheats so we can explain how wrong you are.

 

x.



HOTA_CHATON #4 Posted Dec 12 2017 - 04:32

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View PostOrion3, on Dec 11 2017 - 21:31, said:

How can you tell if they're cheating? WG added zoom out and has auto aim. Not sure what the other ones are.

 

​You of all people, with the length of time you've played should be able to know the difference, if you can't well?

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View Postxrays_, on Dec 11 2017 - 21:31, said:

Please show us even one replay where you have confirmation of cheats so we can explain how wrong you are.

 

x.

 

​Why, people like you would not believe it anyway.  Even when Quicky, and many of the big names came out with vids that positively showed cheating, you guys did not believe and still do not.  So, why bother?  It's here, it's big business and WG is most likely behind most of it.

holdmecloserTonyDanza #6 Posted Dec 12 2017 - 04:35

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View Postxrays_, on Dec 11 2017 - 21:31, said:

Please show us even one replay where you have confirmation of cheats so we can explain how wrong you are.

 

x.

 



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View Postrodzilla01mccloud, on Dec 11 2017 - 20:26, said:

I seldom ever post on any forum.  I just wanted to post about the great number of people cheating by using illegal mods.   Many will try to sell the point that its only a few.  However,  its not just few,  I'm seldom in a random match where someone isn't using the zoom out mod, the reload timer, fire hacks, aimbots and trigger bots.  Many times the team with the most cheat mods is the team that wins.  I've been playing for years and lately the cheaters are worse than ever as far as numbers go.  I don't use any mods at all.  I really wish they could disable mods.  I've discussed this with other players and many people believe that wargamming is profiting from the cheat mods like war pack and has no intention of banning anyone using it.  I pay for a premium account each month, however I'm to the point that I feel the cons out weight the pros in this game.  Reduced credits so you have a harder time grinding credits than exp.  Pay to win tanks like the E25, and cheat mods allowed like war pack have taken a huge toll on this game.  I'm seriously looking for a better game.  Better meaning a game where they put forth and honest effort to control cheating.  What is the point of playing a game where cheating is allowed?  I'm going to take the $$ I'm spending here and apply it to a different game in the near future.  I really hate losing all the time and effort I have in this game but the cheating is out of control.

 

the only way you would knot someone is cheating, is to see their folders. Literally, you don't know a damn thing until you see that. You can assume, but we all know what happens when we assume.

Orion3 #8 Posted Dec 12 2017 - 04:36

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View PostHOTA_CHATON, on Dec 11 2017 - 22:32, said:

 

​You of all people, with the length of time you've played should be able to know the difference, if you can't well?

 

​I have 10K battles in 4 years. I don't play constantly, I've quit and came back three times, I don't platoon or do CW, Skirmishes, Campaigns or missions. 

Mudman24 #9 Posted Dec 12 2017 - 04:39

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Hey look, another player with almost no understanding of the game mechanics. To them, everyone is hacking. To people who understand the game, it’s extremely rare and impossible to know.

Tyrantzz #10 Posted Dec 12 2017 - 04:39

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Cheaters aren't your problem buddy

Sd_Kfz_161 #11 Posted Dec 12 2017 - 04:40

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View PostholdmecloserTonyDanza, on Dec 12 2017 - 04:35, said:

 

 

Ha ha +1! Did he get banned yet?

Also, what's with the breathing, omg.


Edited by Sd_Kfz_161, Dec 12 2017 - 04:46.


Orion3 #12 Posted Dec 12 2017 - 04:41

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View PostholdmecloserTonyDanza, on Dec 11 2017 - 22:35, said:

 

 

​Is this guy streaming? I literally follow hundreds of Twitch streamers and I've never heard of this guy. The map looks like crap and he's got too much candy on his screen. I do see the foliage thing. Not sure about the other stuff. 

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View Postrodzilla01mccloud, on Dec 12 2017 - 00:26, said:

  I just wanted to post about the great number of people cheating by using illegal mods.  
  I'm seldom in a random match where someone isn't using the zoom out mod, (zoom out is totally legal)
 fire hacks,  and trigger bots.  (WUT ??, what are those even ?)
 many people believe that wargamming is profiting from the cheat mods like war pack  (many people believe a lot of crazy things, and that is ridiculous)
and has no intention of banning anyone using it.  (WG has banned thousands in the past few months)
  Pay to win tanks like the E25, (there is nothing pay to win about the e 25)
and cheat mods allowed like war pack  (but cheat mods are NOT allowed)
 cheating is out of control.  (this is just gross hyperbole)

 



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View PostMudman24, on Dec 11 2017 - 19:39, said:

Hey look, another player with almost no understanding of the game mechanics. To them, everyone is hacking. To people who understand the game, it’s extremely rare and impossible to know.

 

It may not be as prevalent as some believe but it does exist and I think WG Fair Play policy is nothing but a sham!

I believe it is probably nothing more than players reporting other players ( c/w replays ) with blatant illegal mods in tickets.

I have seen a few very unusual anomalies in this game that make me wonder if there is actually any program the WG uses to ferret out the cheaters.

The number of banned players vs the number of actual players that play is exceptionally small so It make me wonder how effective it actually is?



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View PostHOTA_CHATON, on Dec 11 2017 - 22:33, said:

 

​Why, people like you would not believe it anyway.  Even when Quicky, and many of the big names came out with vids that positively showed cheating, you guys did not believe and still do not.  So, why bother?  It's here, it's big business and WG is most likely behind most of it.

 

Of course there are people cheating but I doubt it's as rampant as the OP makes it sound.  I can't think of a single game where I was sure someone cheated. I know there have to have been some, but I couldn't tell it was happening...

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View Postrodzilla01mccloud, on Dec 12 2017 - 04:26, said:

 I really hate losing all the time and effort I have in this game but the cheating is out of control.

So...

If you lose the enemy team is cheating right?



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View PostGeorgePreddy, on Dec 11 2017 - 19:41, said:

 

 

Please show us the "Thousands" stats in the last few months!

I read that it is between 100 and 200 each time they post an update on FPP



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I won't deny that there are folks who use cheat mods.

I will say that cheat mods help much less than you seem to think they do.

I also would like to see some numbers, how many people actually use cheat mods. I'd put money down that it's a very small percentage of the playerbase.



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View PostOrion3, on Dec 11 2017 - 19:41, said:

 

​Is this guy streaming? I literally follow hundreds of Twitch streamers and I've never heard of this guy. The map looks like crap and he's got too much candy on his screen. I do see the foliage thing. Not sure about the other stuff.

 

This was a live stream and how can any other player tell what mods another has is there is no way to see their screen .

Had this player not streamed this it could go on for who knows how long!



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I'm always dubious of the out of control or prolific claims.  Cheats are being used, no doubt, but I also doubt the prolific level of use.  





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