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T110E5 E5 cupola buff

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Hurk #41 Posted Dec 19 2017 - 18:26

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View PostAvalon304, on Dec 18 2017 - 14:20, said:

 

Thats actually (for the most part) what a tank curve should look like. It shouldnt be a straight line like the reference, it should look like the black line.

 

The E5 is fine. Its actually a balanced tank.

 

apparently you dont know what a reference line is. 

a 45% player *in tier 10 tanks* should perform at 45% *in tier 10 tanks*. 

if a 45% player doesnt, the tank is out of balance. 

same for 65% players. 

 

you are making an assumption that they are talking about 45% win rate players average win rate, not tier specific win rate, which is wrong. they are talking about players win rates at that tier in that tank vs average for that tier.



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View PostSkyrimosity, on Dec 18 2017 - 11:24, said:

Once upon a time, the E5 was broken. The best Heavium Support SuperHeavy the game has ever seen. Either you shot the front of the cupola at a perfect angle, or it would bounce. Either you shot specific portions of the lower plate, or it would bounce. Better heavy than the Maus, better medium than the Patton. While they probably did overnerf it, it will forever be haunted by the memories of how terrifying it once was, back to the days where it'd face-hug a Maus and win every time. 

 

The lower plate has always been paper thing, and the cuppola for the longest time was paper as well, it did however have very weird very sharp angles all over the front of the cuppola so if you danced back and forth and side to side very slightly the chances are a shot to the cuppola would hit a sharp edge and bounce.

 

Then the HD buff made the cuppola when you are just sitting still as strong as the previous cuppola when dancing so they nerfed it, unfortunately it no longer has any kind of sharp angles so its just paper thin now with no way to increase it's effective armor.

 

I prefer the old original non HD model as it above the lower plate it was just as strong as the HD model was but you had to know how to make it move to get that strength, if you just sat still it would be penned by everything you saw.



Hurk #43 Posted Dec 19 2017 - 19:27

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pre and post nerf T110e5.

 

as you can see, no, the nerf did not do much. the LFP was and always has been the larger issue as to why this tank sucks. the 127mm center weak area is tragic. the rest of the LFP is 152.7mm

 



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look around a bit and you will find these idiots NERFED this tank , before it power creeped it to obscurity , old players have seen this tank get buffwd to be competent then nerfed as IS 7 was BUFFED -for NO apparent reason , other then NA players used armor to FACE other tanks and did ok .  This upset the Russians and they destroyed it enough that only good old players can make it work as a MEDIUM type HT . It is not a frontline tank and with almost zero side armor it was ALWAYS vulrable if the other side DIDN'T JUST KEEP BOUNCING CRAP off thr front ...WArfailure in its wisdom of the YEAR decided to make running up USA line stupid for now , by making the the tier ten tank a lemon . Go figure.

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the cupola needs a huge buff, no tank that is supposed to have armor should have a weakspot that weak that is impossible to hide, its one thing to make it slightly weaker then the rest of the turret but to make it that weak is ridiculous, at least you can hide an extremely weak lower plate or weak sides so those are reasonable weakspots, but the cupola is the first thing that is seen from a mile away when you crest a hill.

 


Either make it not a hitbox anymore or buff it so that gold from tier10s can still generally pen but so that most tanks cant basically autopen it with standard



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View PostSkyrimosity, on Dec 18 2017 - 17:24, said:

Once upon a time, the E5 was broken. The best Heavium Support SuperHeavy the game has ever seen. Either you shot the front of the cupola at a perfect angle, or it would bounce. Either you shot specific portions of the lower plate, or it would bounce. Better heavy than the Maus, better medium than the Patton. While they probably did overnerf it, it will forever be haunted by the memories of how terrifying it once was, back to the days where it'd face-hug a Maus and win every time. 

 

I remember out dueling 2 JPZE100s within 100 yards by side scraping one of the beach ramps on overlord.  So many luls about bouncy 420 pen heat rounds.

 

*sigh* good times :)



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Was too good before and unstoppable and they nerfed it now it is like my E-100.

 

It is WG normal what they did.

 

Wonder if they can fix the lag on the central server of just move it to South America too?



Commodore_Krunk #48 Posted Dec 19 2017 - 21:19

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Reading through thread...the consensus is: it would not be a good idea for me use some of my free xp to unlock the E5.

 

I am not really pushing down any other line...so now what do I do with the free XP lol.

 

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OogaBooga1472 #49 Posted Dec 20 2017 - 16:25

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Dang it! I just put the T110E5 in my garage last night. It's my first tier X tank. 

OLDIRTYBOMBER #50 Posted Dec 20 2017 - 16:56

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View Post__Hawkeye_, on Dec 20 2017 - 16:25, said:

Dang it! I just put the T110E5 in my garage last night. It's my first tier X tank. 

 

My first any only atm as well, at least its something to play in clan wars.:great:

 



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View Post__Hawkeye_, on Dec 20 2017 - 16:25, said:

Dang it! I just put the T110E5 in my garage last night. It's my first tier X tank. 

I’d suggest that you not worry too much, it’s still a good tank. The responses on the forums tent to overblow minor deficiencies and make them sound like the tank will instantly die on the battlefield. The truth is that with the E5 you’ll still always be top tier, and your results are much more the result of your play (and not the tank itself). If you were good with the US line leading up to the E5 you’ll be fine. 

 

Personally I don’t have it yet but I’ve unlocked it. I’ve even got the discount on a Tier 10 from the Holidday event that I could apply to it, which I’m considering.  But I actually like the M103 and so I’m sticking with that for now and grinding in parallel toward the T57. 


Edited by brianc53, Dec 20 2017 - 17:29.


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View Postbrianc53, on Dec 20 2017 - 08:28, said:

I’d suggest that you not worry too much, it’s still a good tank. The responses on the forums tent to overblow minor deficiencies and make them sound like the tank will instantly die on the battlefield.

 

While I agree in general and one should not shelve the E5 forever, I found there are going to be a % of battles where you are in big trouble.  If there are enough experienced players with mediums or other high accuracy guns facing you they will bleed you out via the cupola no matter what.

 

The cupola so big and weak all around that there are scenarios where no amount of WASD dancing is going to help.

 

Other times the opposition is not as skilled and you can still get work done.  Just luck of the draw.



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View PostCommodore_Krunk, on Dec 19 2017 - 15:19, said:

Reading through thread...the consensus is: it would not be a good idea for me use some of my free xp to unlock the E5.

 

I am not really pushing down any other line...so now what do I do with the free XP lol.

 

C_K

 

there is nothing wrong with simply saving free xp lol

for example I got about 90k right now with it not earmarked for anything(and I'm sure others have way more).


 

Probably should start a new line since both the tier9 and tier10 and that one are pretty bad.



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its not a minor deficiency to not be able to play a heavy tank as a heavy tank and to have any tier 10 tank able to pen your giant hat easily. 

 

compare the above images to this IS7: 

 

in both cases an E5 is the shooter.... as you can see both have crap LFPs, but at least the IS7 can hull down, while the e5 cannot. 



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same tanks with the E5 using HEAT rounds instead, which would you rather be driving? 

 



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that is the entire problem with the tank, ill repeat what I said earlier, no tank that is supposed to have armor should have a weak weakspot that is impossible to hide.

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Why do they have to keep jacking around with stuff? They should be what they really are, not what wargaming wants. My e5 sucks and i spent so much time to get it. Makes me not want to play anymore.

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View PostAbashedDuke2, on Dec 18 2017 - 08:26, said:

 

How long ago was this? I don't remember it ever being that strong, i also did stop playing for 4 years though.

It's never been that strong. I had to Make a chose on which heavy line I wanted to go.

I went Russian heavy and ended with the IS4 Which at the time in many cases better than the IS7... you know the paper tank that never reached production ...a Russian Jizz dream of a tank.  Back then The IS4 was incredibly bouncy, good movement, decent gun good hit points and it was a REAL tank that was in production. Now it's aged and ignored.

 

They are not going to change the 110E5 right now it not ever.  Over 70% of their current player base is Eastern Europe.  95% if you add Western Europe into the mix.

 

You see where I'm going with this right?


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View Postbrianc53, on Dec 20 2017 - 17:28, said:

I’d suggest that you not worry too much, it’s still a good tank. The responses on the forums tent to overblow minor deficiencies and make them sound like the tank will instantly die on the battlefield. The truth is that with the E5 you’ll still always be top tier, and your results are much more the result of your play (and not the tank itself). If you were good with the US line leading up to the E5 you’ll be fine. 

 

Personally I don’t have it yet but I’ve unlocked it. I’ve even got the discount on a Tier 10 from the Holidday event that I could apply to it, which I’m considering.  But I actually like the M103 and so I’m sticking with that for now and grinding in parallel toward the T57. 

 

Good! I have been playing the T32 for a while and I was afraid that I had wasted all my time and resources in using a bad line. It looks as though the general consensus is that it's not as good a tank as it once was, but it's still serviceable. To me personally, it looks as though it should be a good mid to long range support vehicle, but not really a brawler like a traditional heavy tank. (Which is a shame, because I like brawling. I do like sniping almost as much, though.)



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They nerfed it to oblivion.  Shameful.





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