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[__simple__]

Dirizon, on Dec 19 2017 - 22:11, said:

 

Tell me, do these people that pay for the sponges. They pay now 7$ for the sponges. Fine. But.....

 

Are they told to now spend 7$ for the sponges,  and 1 half ounce minted gold coin? ls that what they sponge now costs?

Paying more isn't the issue. Paying another, precious currency, rather than just fame - is the issue.

 

 

ok i'll change the story. 

 

lets say walmart sells a pack of sponges for $5 for a year and 50 people buy them. The next year they raise the price to $7 and 1 half ounce minted gold coin and 25 more people buy them. Should the people who bought them for $5 have to pay $2 (plus the coin) more just cause they raised the price AFTER they bought them?  

 

It's fair because the people buying them when the price was raised knew how much it would cost them. If they didn't want to buy it, they wouldn't have to. Nobody was forcing them to and they knew how much they had to spend. But for some reason they really really really wanted those sponges. 

Edited by ClydeCooper421, Dec 20 2017 - 07:16.

[__simple__]

Dirizon, on Dec 19 2017 - 22:12, said:

 

Why didn't they make the T X reward tank Fame, + 4.3mill credits? The cost of a generic discounted T X. Why bonds?

 

 

WG made a lousy addition to their game by adding bonds, i agree with you. They made it cost bonds because they wanted to make bonds a bigger deal than it was, but they implemented it completely wrong. I think it sucks, but IT'S NOT UNFAIR. 

[lamberad]

Good read

[Redwave11]

Thats some pretty bad logic right there...

[HI_FIVE]

sigh this guy.Instead of wasting your time crying over bonds on the forums. How about go grind them like 2000+ players are going to do.

[Guest_Heldar_*]

Xeraux, on Dec 19 2017 - 23:43, said:

If you had participated in the other campaigns, you wouldn't have this opinion.

Stop being salty about what other people have and grind those bonds.

 

Or.... We could not be retarded and fight each other, and instead punch WG in the throat for doing something stupid.

[Brother_Noodle_PizzaTime]

Can I just declare this topic dead here and nobody else replies?

 

This guy either needs a specialist or is a troll, but either way I think we are done here.

[Dirizon]

ClydeCooper421, on Dec 20 2017 - 01:43, said:

 

ok i'll change the story. 

 

lets say walmart sells a pack of sponges for $5 for a year and 50 people buy them. The next year they raise the price to $7 and 1 half ounce minted gold coin and 25 more people buy them. Should the people who bought them for $5 have to pay $2 (plus the coin) more just cause they raised the price AFTER they bought them?  

 

It's fair because the people buying them when the price was raised knew how much it would cost them. If they didn't want to buy it, they wouldn't have to. Nobody was forcing them to and they knew how much they had to spend. But for some reason they really really really wanted those sponges. 

 

No. You see now, with this story, the following happens:

People are in outrage, why a sponge costs the extra minted gold coin. 

Rather than just adjusting to inflation, and paying more money for it.

 

ln inception, it is a CW reward tank. Not a CW pay-to-get.

 

[Dirizon]

_DangerNoodle, on Dec 20 2017 - 02:15, said:

This guy either needs a specialist or is a troll, but either way I think we are done here.

 

Because it effects you more than me? Because you'd have to pay 8K, not 4?

The only thing different here, is for me its either this or that. For you, its not either, but 1 thing most certainly. You need a specialist alright.

 

[Errants]

Dirizon, on Dec 19 2017 - 23:40, said:

lf l have to pay 4K, that is fine and dandy.

But l am getting the same reward, that others got simply for placing top whatever, at the finish of their campaigns.

So, they have to tally up and pay, retro actively, for these same rewards their appropriate costs.

I don't care on what WG decides as to charge for the reward. lf they make it 1 bond, or 5K bonds. What l do care, is that everyone is treated fairly in acquiring them. lf 4K is their so called deemed cost, everyone else past and present has to pay it.

 

We did pay it, when we earned them according to the campaign rules. New campaign, new rules, new hoops to jump through.

 

Do you expect people to pay for the Tier VIII reward tanks, as well?

[__WarChild__]

Dirizon, on Dec 20 2017 - 00:00, said:

 

You are the worst type of people. You wouldn't know fair if it hit you upside the head and cracked your skull.

I technically have done all l was supposed to do, all Y0U DlD F0R Y0UR PRl0R TANKS. Stop being a masochist and grind not only the 4K you need for this campaign, but what you are due now for the other tanks in your garage according to campaign costs. 

 

 

 

 

Dirizon, on Dec 20 2017 - 00:48, said:

 

Because it effects you more than me? Because you'd have to pay 8K, not 4?

The only thing different here, is for me its either this or that. For you, its not either, but 1 thing most certainly. You need a specialist alright.

 

 

I see we're trying to work on our people skills but still struggling a bit... 

[TOMAS_legend_Xeraux]

Dirizon, on Dec 19 2017 - 22:00, said:

You are the worst type of people. You wouldn't know fair if it hit you upside the head and cracked your skull.

I technically have done all l was supposed to do, all Y0U DlD F0R Y0UR PRl0R TANKS. Stop being a masochist and grind not only the 4K you need for this campaign, but what you are due now for the other tanks in your garage according to campaign costs. 

Thanks, saving this post, this is just gold. 

[TOMAS_legend_Xeraux]

Heldar, on Dec 19 2017 - 22:41, said:

Or.... We could not be retarded and fight each other, and instead punch WG in the throat for doing something stupid.

I'm with you there. 

 

Dirizon, on Dec 19 2017 - 22:48, said:

Because it effects you more than me? Because you'd have to pay 8K, not 4?

The only thing different here, is for me its either this or that. For you, its not either, but 1 thing most certainly. You need a specialist alright.

That isn't even a coherent rage spew. At least try. 

[LAPPELduvide]

Dirizon, on Dec 19 2017 - 23:00, said:

 

You are the worst type of people. You wouldn't know fair if it hit you upside the head and cracked your skull.

I technically have done all l was supposed to do, all Y0U DlD F0R Y0UR PRl0R TANKS. Stop being a masochist and grind not only the 4K you need for this campaign, but what you are due now for the other tanks in your garage according to campaign costs. 

 

 

 

Dirizon, on Dec 19 2017 - 23:48, said:

 

Because it effects you more than me? Because you'd have to pay 8K, not 4?

The only thing different here, is for me its either this or that. For you, its not either, but 1 thing most certainly. You need a specialist alright.

 

Xeraux, on Dec 20 2017 - 00:12, said:

Thanks, saving this post, this is just gold. 

This guy is always entertaining 

[Dirizon]

l don't rage. None of my sentences ever have an exclamation.

Errants, on Dec 20 2017 - 02:24, said:

 

Do you expect people to pay for the Tier VIII reward tanks, as well?

 

People did.

For lS5, only top 1.5K, and top tallying clans, got free lS5. From 1.5K-3K, these people were only permitted  to purchase lS5 through gold.

l took a hiatus late '15 and early '16, and didn't see what was done for Chieftain and Kreslasky

 

[Redwave11]

So what.... People got reward tanks for 'free'.

 

Maybe if you have played in those campaigns and reached a sufficient rank you would have also gotten them for free. But you didn't.....

But you did place in this campaign and in this campaign you have to pay. Along with everyone else in THIS campaign.

[M0nkE]

Honestly, selling the tanks for bonds is a good thing.

 

It's just, that, true to form, wg has to get half-way to doing something right before they go and make a bad situation worse.

 

They should have announced the policy well in advance of the event, there should not be a time limit, and it should either be free or heavily-discounted for placing in the top 3k in campaign (should either be free, or the threshold should be higher, honestly--grinding to be top 3k just to be able to buy the tank seems to have already had a significant effect on participation). Buying tanks for, let's say 6-8k bonds, should just always be an option for everyone, which would help maintain the prestige, but it wouldn't be unavailable to people who don't want to be part of a clan.

Edited by M0nkE, Dec 20 2017 - 10:01.

[bobdaxx]

ClydeCooper421, on Dec 20 2017 - 01:52, said:

 

I 100% agree with you here. I think bonds entirely is complete bs. 

 

However, I don't think Wargaming is ripping me off, nor do I feel that they owe me the tank or some sort of act of goodwill. Before the campaign they stated what was going to be required, yet we went for it anyway. 

 

I have 500 bonds atm and if my clan stays in its position i'll get 2K bonds from the campaign, that means i have to grind 1.5K bonds with only one tier 10 tank...that's basically impossible without some sort of quick and easy way. So of course i want the bond requirement to be done away with. 

 

I think it would be an act of utmost professionalism on wargaming's part to remove the bond price from the tank or at least lower it significantly. But I don't think they'll do that. 

 

Dude  you have 1 tier X tank ?  And you expect a reward tank.  

 

In the last 2 weeks, playing causally i ground out 800 bonds...just in case I didn't have enough from the campaign.  

 

But seriously  I do think WG screwed up with the improved equipment.  One should be able to sell it back.  Do you have any improved equipment you could sell?  Also the time period for buying the reward tank should be open-ended, no time limit.

 

Edited by bobdaxx, Dec 20 2017 - 11:26.

[Dirizon]

WinningWithWarchild, on Dec 20 2017 - 02:36, said:

 

 

I see we're trying to work on our people skills but still struggling a bit... 

 

Struggling? Who said l was trying in the first place. 

[kenoman]

M0nkE, on Dec 20 2017 - 03:57, said:

Honestly, selling the tanks for bonds is a good thing.

 

It's just, that, true to form, wg has to get half-way to doing something right before they go and make a bad situation worse.

 

They should have announced the policy well in advance of the event, there should not be a time limit, and it should either be free or heavily-discounted for placing in the top 3k in campaign (should either be free, or the threshold should be higher, honestly--grinding to be top 3k just to be able to buy the tank seems to have already had a significant effect on participation). Buying tanks for, let's say 6-8k bonds, should just always be an option for everyone, which would help maintain the prestige, but it wouldn't be unavailable to people who don't want to be part of a clan.

 

This. All they need to do is lift the time limit or extend it to, let's say, a year.

If you've earned the tank why is there a time limit on "buying it" anyway? It's a totally artificial construct that, given how they've handled the whole bonds requirement, is just causing extra grief. Lift the time restriction and people will have the ability to grind the 4k bonds without the necessity to grind them out in the month just after a campaign has ended. 

Edited by kenoman, Dec 20 2017 - 13:22.