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Hey guys (First ever post here)

I am currently grinding the Ferdi and have all the possible upgrades for it.

My question is-
Is the Jagdtiger worth the grind?

Thnx

I have a JagdTiger and I love it. Its fast rate of fire on a super powerful gun makes it awesome!

I like the Jagdtiger very much, much more than my ferdy and object 704, the only thing this beast need is a little more cammo value

Depends on what you want to do. If you want to pubmatch its ok, not as good as the object704 or T95 however. But if you want to partake in ClanWars I would suggest going up a heavy or arty line as TD's usually only get chosen if nothing else is available to fill the slot.

It is well worth the grind to get. I loathe Clan Wars so don't really care about performance in it against other TD's. Get it...you will love it.

Just don't be surprised if I one shot you with my GW Tiger. Its weak rear and side armor is a sweet spot for us arties.Even my HE shell has an average penetration of 105mm compared to its 80mm armor.

I love mine, Its got a huge nasty gun on it & hull down, can take some unbelievable punishment, not a big earner though like most Tier 9's.
About 100k of silver to get the ISU 152 & then Grind to the Object.

After my Lowe, the Tiger 2 earns good silver & XP followed by the Ferdi.

Weak gun, no camo, weak armor.

11% worse win rate than the T-95, 5% less than the Object. These are compiled statistics by the stat guy that usually posts them on the general forum.

any T-9 gun can pen you from the front, any other gun from side or rear. You have 190/250 (AP/HE) less damage than the T-95 and Object (10 less pen than Object as well), and even the Object has more effective armor (slope is king). Your rate of fire is good on paper, and if you have dedicated spotters and an open map, which is rare. Arty can 1 hit you easily, and as soon as you are spotted, which is right away, all enemy guns hit you for the guaranteed free exp.

Best the Germans have for a gun, but we are used to awfulness.

Not sure why someone said "super powerful gun". Does 70 more damage than a heavy tank gun.

I am a firm believer now that JT is the only way to go for TDs in Clan Wars. Highest pen in the game by a pretty significant margin using APCR and highest damage output. Alpha strike is irrelevant when you are auto-penning the turret armor on a T30 with 3360 DPM. Yes it's a good tank. I would not trade mine for a 704 or T95. Did I mention accuracy?

I started out in my Jagdtiger and loved it however I went into it knowing that there was some drawbacks picking it but I didn't care. The high rate of fire and dead on accuracy is what I love about it. Its not quick and its not easy to conceal but if you get it into a sweet spot you will do well. I love taking off 30% of a 704 at a huge distance, makes me smile. I've used mine mostly as an assault gun... waaay too much fun.. thats probably the reason my survival rate is low, but eh its sure as hell fun.

I did grind to the 704 and played around 50 games in it and to me it just couldn't compare to my JT. Yes the BFG-10 erm.. BL-10 is great however the armor on the thing is paper and good ole russian accuracy... can't tell you how many times I missed at 400m+ when with my JT I could have been landing my shots everytime.

I'd say go get it, if you liked the ferdi you will like the JT.

Any TD other than T95 and T30 are pointless.

Obj-704 is good in pubs when you are only tier 9 on your team tho.

Communism, on Aug 29 2011 - 17:24, said:

You are a good player so I am curious about your opinion here. Especially regarding the T95, can you elaborate? I always thought it was trash (at least for Pubs) because it has no ability to redeploy and with such slow RoF and standard hitting power it has no hope of stopping a medium flanking it.

Noggmoritz, on Aug 29 2011 - 18:19, said:

when you play T95, just take one side by yourself, and tell your team to go the other way.

If they push hard, you auto win.

Nukem666, on Aug 29 2011 - 17:22, said:

BL-10 is what, .34? It is perfectly accurate. It even has 10 mm more pen. An Object does not even have to aim at weak spots on you (flat 250 max armor in a small area, he has 286 pen). You are always much more visible. Yes, you can take 30% off him if you don't bounce. He can take 50% off you and he very rarely will  bounce. Slope > flat. Oh ya, he can simply hide or run away after shooting.

Object is better, period, T-95 better, period. Stats back it up.

Noggmoritz, on Aug 29 2011 - 18:19, said:

JT has no hope either. Traverse is not much quicker on the JT. T-95 can literally pick a street, or a location with cover to the side/back and be invincible but for HE nibbles. Highest hit I have ever taken in this game was from a T-95. 1040 damage in my E-50, no module damage, front shot to the upper glac. Needless to say, I ran.

Don't ask me for the math, that is simply what happened. if the JT hit like that too, it would be respected and legit. Right now it barely hits harder than everyone's heavies, and has no effective armor whatsoever. No real point to taking one over a heavy. Heck, T-30 is a better TD.

teamoldmill, on Aug 29 2011 - 21:52, said:

Wooooooo a vehicle I don't need any skill to play... no wonder there are so many russian vehicle drivers.

and I don't bounce off objects. Easy kills.

Now fly away troll

*edit* I also see you have never used a 704 let alone a TD with the bl10... so please

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Insulting other player using a picture containing political figure. Warned. ~carves

teamoldmill, on Aug 29 2011 - 21:56, said:

When I am looking at the ability of a tank I always take into account gold rounds potential because that's what is used for Clan Wars, and CW is the endgame for many people including myself - JT has 352 (three hundred and fifty two, yeah, that's the highest in the whole game) average pen with APCR. The 704 and T95 fall short.

Pub matches? AP is perfectly fine, because you're always going to be near the top of the stack with the JT as you would be using any other Tier 9. Only really need Gold to pen T30 turret armor and angled Maus's anyway. 276 pen is perfectly adequate for anything else.

.34 for the BL-10 is also hardly "perfectly accurate". Don't tell me you don't notice the difference switching between your E-50's 10.5cm, and say, ANYTHING else? I bounce BL-10's in my E-100 very frequently and occasionally in my E-50 if I've got a nice angle - so the BL-10 certainly does not have an "always" pen capability, especially with standard ammo.

You rag on the JT for having crap armor, and yeah, it has an awful lower plate that admittedly gets penetrated by basically anything. But the 704s armor might as well be paper too - and not just in one spot like the JT. I'd rather have one weakpoint that I can hull-down as opposed to less hitpoints and a tank that can be pen'd anywhere short of the gun manlet. Oh. And a better gun. 704 has the camo though.

Lastly, teamoldmill, it doesn't say you're currently in a clan - so I must beg the question whether or not you have sufficient clan wars experience or have even played in those kinds of games where every opponent is top tier.

For pug matches it is awesome, I love mine. With the 2nd gun, the tank is an absolute blast. Don't listen to the moaners. It is worth the exp.

Noggmoritz, on Aug 29 2011 - 22:21, said:

I could care less about clan wars. I have a new kid, work long hours. I only play public matches. I am not going to waste money on gold rounds. For standard rounds in a public match, the JT has nothing going for it. It is a terrible excuse for a T9 TD, and really a slap in the face to German armor considering the legendary icon it is. It is too reliant on your team. It is a good sniping platform, but the horrible camo means you need to be 400-500 meters away, which lowers pen considerably.

menochinese, on Aug 29 2011 - 23:16, said:

Your profile is not that great man, you sure?