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iSkvio #1 Posted Dec 29 2017 - 00:35

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It is a coincidence that professional players always have the most modules with the least amount of shots.
The crew members always kill you with a shot or something.
Nose because ... but always in skirmishes of chance that clans tops always make 2-3 ammoracks or things like that ...

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Dogsoldier6 #2 Posted Dec 29 2017 - 00:38

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So you are saying they are scoring more ammo racks, internal module damage, crew members hurt then you and your friends are?

 

Just trying to help translate what you said for others.



_Inadequate #3 Posted Dec 29 2017 - 00:40

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View PostiSkvio, on Dec 28 2017 - 18:35, said:

It is a coincidence that professional players always have the most modules with the least amount of shots.
The crew members always kill you with a shot or something.
Nose because ... but always in skirmishes of chance that clans tops always make 2-3 ammoracks or things like that ...

google translate, sorry

 

Yes, it is a coincidence. There is absolutely no way to manipulate RNG for any individual or group. RNG is what's behind these critically damaging shots.

the_dude_76 #4 Posted Dec 29 2017 - 00:47

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View PostiSkvio, on Dec 28 2017 - 23:35, said:

It is a coincidence that professional players always have the most modules with the least amount of shots.
 

 

No, it's not a coincidence. They understand where to shoot your tank to maximize the possibility of a crit hit. If you know where the ammo rack is on a tank and you shoot that spot there is a greater chance of destroying that ammo rack than if you just point and shoot anywhere on a tank.



heavymetal1967 #5 Posted Dec 29 2017 - 00:51

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They know where to shoot to hit module and/or crew positions.   Or maybe they're using skins which are legal as long as not 3d, but I doubt it's that, just good game knowledge most likely.

TomBombay #6 Posted Dec 29 2017 - 00:55

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practice. lots and lots and lots of practice. Lots of  fails, lots of study.

churchill50 #7 Posted Dec 29 2017 - 01:00

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Added to what others have said about knowing where to shoot tanks to damage modules, there is also a crew skill (Deadeye I believe) that increases the chance to do module and crew damage.

That crew skill used to be one of the best ways to get the annoying "set 3 tanks on fire" personal missions.



pickpocket293 #8 Posted Dec 29 2017 - 01:02

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Having a highly skilled crew with Deadeye will help those odds.. Good players probably have better crews.

rich73 #9 Posted Dec 29 2017 - 01:07

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View PostJackson120, on Dec 28 2017 - 15:40, said:

 

Yes, it is a coincidence. There is absolutely no way to manipulate RNG for any individual or group. RNG is what's behind these critically damaging shots.

 

No..its WGng.There is no more rng left.

_Inadequate #10 Posted Dec 29 2017 - 01:15

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View Postthe_dude_76, on Dec 28 2017 - 18:47, said:

 

No, it's not a coincidence. They understand where to shoot your tank to maximize the possibility of a crit hit. If you know where the ammo rack is on a tank and you shoot that spot there is a greater chance of destroying that ammo rack than if you just point and shoot anywhere on a tank.

 

Obviously shooting specific places will increase the likelihood of hitting specific modules. My point is that the OP's question seems to insinuate that better players get better RNG. My answer was addressing that.

Edited by Jackson120, Dec 29 2017 - 01:16.


ThePigSheFlies #11 Posted Dec 29 2017 - 01:19

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watch good players stream.  fulcrous is on right now, former officer in vilin, and currently in mahou.  he's running mod free, as he pretty much always does, because it's also a requirement for gold league.  https://www.twitch.tv/fulcrous

 

pay attention to what he's aiming at - e.g.  an IS7 got spun sideways after it was already tracked, so instead of aiming at the sprocket to retrack it like he might normally do, he had side shots at the area where the fuel tanks / ammo racks are located.

 

he's played long enough that he knows the common locations of most modules, and shockingly he thus also manages to do module or crew damage...

 

that being said, there aren't any "top clans" - wargaming killed off clans with clanwars 2.0 and the campaign grinds.  they drove a nail into the game by buffing arty against mediums and lights, and forcing them to brawl in tiny funnel maps, while also keeping RNG in the game while still trying to foster an "eSports" ...

 



KanataKonoe #12 Posted Dec 29 2017 - 01:45

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Just a coincidence.... RNG decides if you break a module or not.... Deadeye crew skill increases that chance. 

Kerosedge #13 Posted Dec 29 2017 - 01:57

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Yeah they know where to shoot you. This is not good mojo at work, just research.

TheGrizzlay #14 Posted Dec 29 2017 - 02:21

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It is not a coincidence. The best players know where to aim to hit modules.

 

A really good NA streamer often aims for areas of the tank that can catch fire. It's funny because when he does this, he sometimes says "fire hack activate!". It's hilarious when a fire actually happens after he does this live on stream. That's when he tells us he has a voice activated fire hack lol.

 

But in all seriousness, it just illustrates how great players decide on shot placement.



the_dude_76 #15 Posted Dec 29 2017 - 02:27

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View PostJackson120, on Dec 29 2017 - 00:15, said:

 

Obviously shooting specific places will increase the likelihood of hitting specific modules. My point is that the OP's question seems to insinuate that better players get better RNG. My answer was addressing that.

 

Well it still isn't a coincidence regardless of what he was insinuating.... 

Kamahl1234 #16 Posted Dec 29 2017 - 02:37

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View PostJackson120, on Dec 28 2017 - 23:40, said:

 

Yes, it is a coincidence. There is absolutely no way to manipulate RNG for any individual or group. RNG is what's behind these critically damaging shots.

 

Well that and a knowledge of where these modules are, so you can try to put more rounds into them, in hopes of increasing the rolls for RNG being favorable. 

HOTA_CHATON #17 Posted Dec 29 2017 - 03:17

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View PostJackson120, on Dec 28 2017 - 17:40, said:

 

Yes, it is a coincidence. There is absolutely no way to manipulate RNG for any individual or group. RNG is what's behind these critically damaging shots.

 

​Oh really, you don't say?  How many times have we seen competition where the teams have manipulated the out come of the series?  Stream sniping, Twitch & You Tube live sniping and such.  Shall I go on?  And oh yes, the grand finale that most everyone denies, the actual hacking of the servers.  Why do you think we are prompted to change our passwords and such so much and why they used to pay us to do so?  Do you finally get the hint?  Yes the out comes are manipulated, of that, you can bet your bottom dollar.  If War Gaming doesn't want certain teams and people to win, they can and do fix it to their desires.  You can attempt to label me tin foil all you want but better than you, in that past, have tried and failed as everything we differed on has come 100% true and been exposed.  I am still here and they no longer play the game or have been permanently banned from the forums.  Good night all.

the_dude_76 #18 Posted Dec 29 2017 - 05:34

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View PostHOTA_CHATON, on Dec 29 2017 - 02:17, said:

 

​  You can attempt to label me tin foil all you want but better than you, in that past, have tried and failed as everything we differed on has come 100% true and been exposed.  I am still here and they no longer play the game or have been permanently banned from the forums.  Good night all.

 

How would you label yourself?? How would you label someone who plays a game that they think is rigged against them and gives money to a company they they think cheats them?? 



Markd73 #19 Posted Dec 29 2017 - 09:34

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View PostHOTA_CHATON, on Dec 29 2017 - 02:17, said:

 

​Oh really, you don't say?  How many times have we seen competition where the teams have manipulated the out come of the series?  Stream sniping, Twitch & You Tube live sniping and such.  Shall I go on?  And oh yes, the grand finale that most everyone denies, the actual hacking of the servers.  Why do you think we are prompted to change our passwords and such so much and why they used to pay us to do so?  Do you finally get the hint?  Yes the out comes are manipulated, of that, you can bet your bottom dollar.  If War Gaming doesn't want certain teams and people to win, they can and do fix it to their desires.  You can attempt to label me tin foil all you want but better than you, in that past, have tried and failed as everything we differed on has come 100% true and been exposed.  I am still here and they no longer play the game or have been permanently banned from the forums.  Good night all.

Without actual (you know) evidence I am calling confirmation bias.



Ericmopar #20 Posted Dec 29 2017 - 10:07

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View PostMarkd73, on Dec 29 2017 - 00:34, said:

Without actual (you know) evidence I am calling confirmation bias.

 

Actually they have some points...

First of all, it's really weird that they ask you to change your password so often. I grew up and worked in Silicon Valley, and changing a password so often is just strange.

 

Second of all, Quicky Baby himself has exposed at least one Aim-Bot in use in game.

He discovered it when some Bozo sent him a video of his miraculous game, for Quicky Baby to post on his YouTube channel.

 

In Blitz at least, hit skins which would violate the EULA and give a person an advantage, are rampant on late night streams. Any reasonable human would know those incidents have to be the tip of the iceberg in the WG games.

 


Edited by Ericmopar, Dec 29 2017 - 10:10.





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