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Crabybaby #1 Posted Jan 11 2018 - 03:51

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Disclaimer: The main focus of this post is to suggest future free content for the game that will increase variety, not to support the idea of introducing overpowered Super-Heavies, so if you feel as though these tanks will be over powered, please tell what you would change about them (And please don't say "Don't put them in", since it will make me ignore your comment since saying such a thing is rather immature).

 

I was browsing around on the Internet a few hours ago looking into Soviet heavy tanks that could be the tier 10 WG plans to introduce after the T-10 in 9.22, when I came across something completely unrelated (because it's the Internet), a TON of KV-4 designs that never saw the light of day.  It turns out, there were many designs designated under the name KV-4, and you can find them here:  http://forum.worldof...ign-proposals/ 

 

So I have decided to give my say as to which ones would be best suited for succeeding the KV-4 at Tier 9-10, as well as some which could make up a complete Super-Heavy line leading up to them, however most of these would only be practical with the introduction of multi-turret functionality.

 

 

 

As a side note, if I were to change anything about the T-150, it would be to increase the upper front plate and the hull side to 100 millimeters.

 

 

First off, the changes to the KV-3 will be increasing the armor values to 150 millimeters on the upper plate, 120 millimeters on the lower plate, 180 millimeters on the turret front, and 120 millimeters on the hull side.  The top speed should also be deceased to 30 kph.

 

 

Changes to the KV-4 will be much more extreme.  First off, our current KV-4 is actually a combination of all of the KV-4 design proposals, so the current version will need to be replaced, most likely by the KV-4 Kruchenykh, since it's design greatly resembles the current KV 4.  This KV-4 will have 180 millimeters of armor on the entire front, 150 on the side, and 120 in the rear, and the turret armor will be 230 millimeters thick on the front, 180 on the front half of the side, 150 on the rear half of the side, and 100 in the turret rear.  The mini turret on top will be 200 millimeters thick on the front, 150 on the side, and 80 in the rear.  The mobility stats will be identical to the current KV-4.  As for the gun, it will use both the KV-4's current 107 millimeter, as well as a 122 millimeter.  This will either be the BL 9 currently used on the IS-3, T-10, and ST-1, or the BL-13 currently used on the Obj 252 U (also, if this gun is given to the KV-4, it will also be give to the ST-1 for the sake of an easy grind).

 

 

 

As for which new tanks the KV-4 will lead to, they will be the KV-4 Tseits at Tier 9, and the KV-4 Mikailov at Tier 10.

 

 

(All non-italicized is quoted directly from Hall of KV-4)

 

Tseits’ proposal
Specifications: (direct from Battlefield.ru’s data sheet)

Length: 8.35m
Width: 4.03m
Height: 3.62m
Ground clearance: 0.55m
Combat weight: 90 tons

Engine: Diesel M-40 outputting 1200hp
Radio: 10-R series
Crew: 7

Armor:
Hull: 130/125/125
Turret: 140 (cylindrical)

Armaments:
1x 107mm Zis-6
2x 7.62mm DT

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Some changes I would make to make it more suited for Tier 9 would include giving it the option to use a 130 millimeter gun with 490 alpha (similar to the IS-7's), as well as increasing the armor values to 220 millimeters on the upper plate, 180 millimeters on lower plate, 240 millimeters on the turret front, and 160 millimeters on the hull side.  The cupola will be 210 millimeters thick.  Of course its weight will be increased to around 210-230 tons, and its top speed will be 30 kph.  Also, it would get access to the 107 millimeter gun currently used by the KV-4, as well as whichever 122 millimeter gun I suggested above that will be given to the KV-4.

 

While yes these aren't "historical", most of the stuff in this game isn't exactly historical anyway, so honestly that shouldn't be a concern.

 

 

 

 

 

Mikhailov’s proposal
Specifications: (direct from Battlefield.ru’s data sheet)
Length: 9.m
Width: 3.6m
Height: 3.m
Ground clearance: 0.5m
Combat weight: 86 tons

Engine: Diesel M-40 outputting 1200hp
Radio: 10-R series
Crew: 5
Max fuel load: 2800 litres (located next to the engine position and ½ way across the turret ring)

Armor:
Hull: 180/150/130
Turret: 140 (conical)

Armaments:
1x 107mm Zis-6
2x 7.62mm DT
1x 45mm 20-K

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Some changes I would make to make it more suited for Tier 10 would include giving it either a 130 millimeter gun with 550 alpha (Similar to the Obj 263), or a 152 millimeter gun with 650 alpha (similar to what the upcoming Obj 705A will have), as well as increasing the armor values to 240 millimeters on the upper plate, 210 millimeters on the lower plate, 260 millimeters on the turret front, and 170 millimeters on the hull side.  Of course the weight of the tank will also be increased to around 130-150 tons, and the top speed will be 30 kph.

 

While yes these aren't "historical", most of the stuff in this game isn't exactly historical anyway, so honestly that shouldn't be a concern.

 

 

 

Now as for the Super-Heavy line that will also lead to the new Tier 9 and 10, I won't go into as much detail for now as multi-turret function will be required, but I do have the general structure figured out.

 

Tier 2:

T-24

 

Tier 3:

T-35

 

Tier 4:

T-100

 

Tier 5:

SMK

 

Tier 6:

T-100 Z

 

Tier 7:

KV-4 Pereverzev

 

Tier 8:

KV-4 Ferdoreko

 

 

 

If I have time in the next few days, I will add a poll as well as more detailed stats for the Super-Heavy line.

 

Feel free to comment what you would do differently if you introduced these tanks.


Edited by Crabybaby, Jan 11 2018 - 23:13.


SenaKashiwazaki #2 Posted Jan 11 2018 - 03:59

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God these tanks are...... Beautiful..... 

What would I change?

For Mikhailov’s proposal I would put a 130MM gun on it.... 

Why? Well..... Big guns for a Big tank. Makes it look more cute! :) 



Dogg_zilla #3 Posted Jan 11 2018 - 04:08

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Well, the Germans have the Maus and E100, so it would only be fair. 

 

Just joking, those should be tier 11, and these would actually be a nice addition. 

 

Return and buff the 183 and Chieftain to make them tier 11, and buff one of the American heavies and one TD to be tier 11. 

 

It would help pull the tier X away from tier 8 games if there was a tier 11. 

 

Tier X currently has the biggest disparity of any tier, and some of the tanks really do need to be separated into tier 11. 

 

Or if they dont want a tier 11, add a fifth category of tank for them, which counts the super heavy tanks and TDs as two tanks instead of one. 

 

 



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We shall call it...the DERP Limo

 

 

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Crabybaby #5 Posted Jan 11 2018 - 14:50

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View PostSenaKashiwazaki, on Jan 11 2018 - 02:59, said:

God these tanks are...... Beautiful..... 

What would I change?

For Mikhailov’s proposal I would put a 130MM gun on it.... 

Why? Well..... Big guns for a Big tank. Makes it look more cute! :) 

 

If you like big guns on big tanks, well I found this little gem made by the same guy that made the models seen above:

 

Edit: It isn't letting post the picture for some reason, but it's the KV 4 Mikailov with twin 152 millimeter guns.

 



SenaKashiwazaki #6 Posted Jan 11 2018 - 19:32

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View PostCrabybaby, on Jan 11 2018 - 08:50, said:

 

If you like big guns on big tanks, well I found this little gem made by the same guy that made the models seen above:

 

Edit: It isn't letting post the picture for some reason, but it's the KV 4 Mikailov with twin 152 millimeter guns.

 

 

That would be amazing...... :ohmy:

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View PostCrabybaby, on Jan 11 2018 - 14:50, said:

 

If you like big guns on big tanks, well I found this little gem made by the same guy that made the models seen above:

 

Edit: It isn't letting post the picture for some reason, but it's the KV 4 Mikailov with twin 152 millimeter guns.

 

 

use Imgur

 

https://imgur.com/


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Crabybaby #8 Posted Jan 11 2018 - 22:45

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Here is a pic of all of the KV-4 variants for anyone wondering what they all look like (with a KV 1 for scale):

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Btw I didn't make any of these images.  All credit go to Giganaut: https://giganaut.deviantart.com/


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View PostSenaKashiwazaki, on Jan 11 2018 - 18:32, said:

 

That would be amazing...... :ohmy:

 

Got it to work, so here you go:

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View PostCrabybaby, on Jan 11 2018 - 16:46, said:

 

Got it to work, so here you go:

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It's beautiful.... Really makes me wonder what it would look like with a KV-4 turret.... Prob quite decent looking. 




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