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1TrunkMonkey #161 Posted Today, 06:40 AM

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The whole reason I've been slogging the OBJ 430 line was for the OBJ 430.  Now, just as I researched and bought the OBJ 430 II, WG is gonna switch the 430 to a line I haven't worked.  The rear-turreted tanks are hard...I don't like them, but the goal was there.  Now, no way will I continue that line...WHAT a waste of my time to get to the 430.  To boot, I gotta start over at Tier 7 to go after the OBJ430.  

 

If I'd a known this, I'd have used the OBJ416 research to get the T54.  Now I am SOL and stuck with a tank I really don't wish to play and out XP I could have used elsewhere.  

 

It would be good if there was some way to get back to the 430 w/o having to damn near start over.  No, I can't earn that much xp that quickly...to research the 430...or I would.

 

And yes, I am bitchin', I ain't great, but that was a lot of pain in the a44 and obj 416.

 

 

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memo_941 #162 Posted Today, 07:07 AM

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I would like to get compensated for my Obj.430 with the upcoming tier 10 replacement... Thank you very much.

And btw, almost everyone can guess that SU-122-54 will be a tier 8 premium tank... WG just doesn't want to give it away freely...



Violent_Pacifist #163 Posted Today, 04:07 PM

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Sounds like the 430U is merely a 121...

Edited by Violent_Pacifist, Today, 04:34 PM.


Kirito_San_SAO #164 Posted Today, 05:51 PM

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As someone who loved the 430 for the dpm, troll armor and speed, this is just a huge slap to the face. You basically demolished the strengths the 430 had and now you give us a tank that is slower, has worse gun handling, and a longer reload. 

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View Post1TrunkMonkey, on Jan 20 2018 - 00:40, said:

The whole reason I've been slogging the OBJ 430 line was for the OBJ 430.  Now, just as I researched and bought the OBJ 430 II, WG is gonna switch the 430 to a line I haven't worked.  The rear-turreted tanks are hard...I don't like them, but the goal was there.  Now, no way will I continue that line...

 

Hi,

 

They "try" to find a new tier 10 following the 430II so keep that tank. As you said, if you want to get the 430, either you grind it now or wait for 9.22 and start from T-44.

 

Cheers.

 

 



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View PostKirito_San_SAO, on Jan 20 2018 - 11:51, said:

As someone who loved the 430 for the dpm, troll armor and speed, this is just a huge slap to the face. You basically demolished the strengths the 430 had and now you give us a tank that is slower, has worse gun handling, and a longer reload. 

 

Hi,

 

You are right, the 430 was the Russian T10 medium I wanted to have (that DPM....) but I understand their ideas. You should admit that you see more Obj 140/T62 than it in both pub games/CW, this is perhaps the goal they follow.

 

Cheers.

 

 



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El IS-6 mejoren el Promedio de penetracion por ahora el IS-6 , 175mm y casi no puedo penetrar en tanques pesados  tengo que utilizar caññones premiums pero ahora voy muy mal ya que tengo el IS-6 .

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View Postjpli, on Jan 20 2018 - 09:58, said:

Hi,

 

You are right, the 430 was the Russian T10 medium I wanted to have (that DPM....) but I understand their ideas. You should admit that you see more Obj 140/T62 than it in both pub games/CW, this is perhaps the goal they follow.

 

Cheers.

 

It might be that you see more of the 140 and 62 because they were here before the 430.  As the tech trees continue to expand, it can get harder to keep up with the new tanks, especially when you already enjoy the ones you have.   As an example, the Russian TDs have been around in one form or another since Day 1.  Chinese TDs though are fairly recent additions, so it makes sense that there are more Russian TDs around, discounting the fact that there the Russian TDs have 2 lines vs 1 Chinese.

 

I've had the Obj 430 for a while but haven't played it much.   Grinding up several lines at the same time netted me the opportunity to buy several tier 10s at once and so my game is "suffering" from having an abundance of tanks to choose from.   I think playing those rear turrent mediums kind of wore me out as well, as I didn't really enjoy them and was just glad to finally get past them.  Anyway, this change makes me reluctant to play it now as I don't want to put some time in, get a good feel for the 430 only to have it changed up and moved to tier 9.  I'd rather put my time into a tier 10 that has no changes being made to it.



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Hi,

 

I tested the "new" OBJ 263 on test server and I've the feeling it performs better than the SU-122-54 (at least armor works).

Now about the 430U, the question is : "do we absolutely need a new line when they are already late balancing old ones" ?

 

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View PostAltwar, on Jan 20 2018 - 13:08, said:

Anyway, this change makes me reluctant to play it now as I don't want to put some time in, get a good feel for the 430 only to have it changed up and moved to tier 9.  I'd rather put my time into a tier 10 that has no changes being made to it.

 

Hi,

Sadly we have no proof they'll keep all Tier 10 as they are now.

They wanted a few months ago to change the BC25T but hopefully for us, the volley of batons they received on the Russian server dissuaded them from continuing in this direction.

 

Logically, they would change one between OBJ140/T62A as they are now pretty similar.

 

Cheers.

 



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Good job killing the 263 line.  You have made it useless.  SU-100M1 was a keeper for me.  I sold it due to the changes, it's useless now.

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View Postjpli, on Jan 20 2018 - 19:15, said:

 

Hi,

Sadly we have no proof they'll keep all Tier 10 as they are now.

They wanted a few months ago to change the BC25T but hopefully for us, the volley of batons they received on the Russian server dissuaded them from continuing in this direction.

 

Logically, they would change one between OBJ140/T62A as they are now pretty similar.

 

Cheers.

 

 

With all these changes I've stopped going past tier 7 for now.  It's useless, you get into a tank you like and they change it.

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These last updates have been really sad.  They have been promising us new maps for 3 years now, and they only released one for tier 10's and are only working on new maps for grand battles that you get once every 20 tier 10 games.  When is WG going to pull their heads out of their [edited]  and fix this game with new and updated maps?  Remember the Cyprus conference WG?  Remember what was said?  Remember what you said you would do?  No wonder so many people have left this game since then, 0 results on the new maps.  You keep wasting time with all these new tanks, your killing your own game.

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Original resized.jpgHello,

first off... First test on the test server with the Object 430U i felt that this tank was great after playing one round... however, my dpm is 3634 in my Original 430 right now... they lowered it to about 2500 dpm on the 430U and gave it less accuracy .35 on 430 to .37 on 430U.... My opinion on the 122 gun in this game is that I hate this [edited]gun unless you have a more accurate version... I am really bummed, the 430 is one of my favorite tanks and they are making it worse and replacing it with something that only has more appealing armor and not much else and lowering my overall dpm on BOTH tanks. 430U is a great tank and a great idea, however what you doing with my original 430 is BS and if anything WG should make the original 430 a tier 10 premium and not change it. At least keep it as a tier 10 and modify your lines.. Overall i am sick and tired of grinding for tanks that i really want and come to really love playing after earning them... And then WG swoops in AGAIN to nerf or replace my favorite crapall together with crapi would have never grinded for. Honestly i am afraid to keep advancing on this game as you advance to a tank that you want and then it is replaced and nerfed in many ways... then just takes up space in my garage in the long run.. Can i get all my XP back for the German Grille 15 line for example? (THATS AN OBVIOUS NO) goes from laserbeam death cannon with some armor to sidescrape and play in cities vs heavies, to a now paper armor everywhere tank and stripped of autoloader... u only got to keep the laserbeam accuracy. Great now with only one shot and then a long reload i have to hide and snipe to get a good game in it. i kinda got off track there.. but my point should be clear. It is not fair to grind for something you really want and then be changed to something different.. At least do what you did with the badger and 183, and then fill in your gaps with new tanks instead of nerfing another tier 10.






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