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madgiecool #81 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 02:20

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View PostQuemapueblos, on Jan 12 2018 - 07:20, said:

Take a break from the festive Holiday Ops. hustle to get up to speed on the changes coming to USSR vehicles! Update 9.22 will take on the nation’s least-played tanks, revitalizing them through an injection of new vehicles, structural re-shuffles, and several comebacks.

Read the full article here

 

 

Would it have been possible to find a better quality pic with the English names?

 

Ty for the info and the update 

 

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War_is_Hell #82 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 03:05

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I don't think taking a tank out of the game that is actually real and putting in some blueprint never built tank is the right approach.  Yeah the su-122-54 is meh but removing it completely is the wrong way to go.

mlinke #83 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 04:14

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View PostWar_is_Hell, on Jan 13 2018 - 03:05, said:

I don't think taking a tank out of the game that is actually real and putting in some blueprint never built tank is the right approach.  Yeah the su-122-54 is meh but removing it completely is the wrong way to go.

 

as I understand they are removing one medium too

Diacom #84 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 04:29

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View Postmlinke, on Jan 12 2018 - 20:14, said:

 

as I understand they are removing one medium too

 

You're understanding is wrong, better go back and check again.

grego34 #85 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 04:52

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so when is this 9.22 update coming out?  i need time to finish getting my T-10

Gunadie #86 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 04:53

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View PostLeeJDM, on Jan 12 2018 - 02:47, said:

I don't want SU122-54  ..... i don't like him, for me they can replace, its the only tank i didn't do on this game, and i'm really happy with the changes...

 

They need to buff the armor front and side.

The initial proposal saw this tank moved to tier 8 with a 50% buff to the frontal armor

They (WG) have known it was poorly done from the beginning (or close to it)

I would love this tank if it was balanced properly for its tier

Having 100 mm of frontal armor at tier 9 was completely wrong as was the "historical" crap gun depression that keep players from playing these tanks



Gunadie #87 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 04:59

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View PostPaul_1986, on Jan 12 2018 - 10:48, said:

263 was fine. No one complained that it was a bad TD. The issue was the crap grind through 7-8-9. All you had to do was increase gun arc, elevation and accuracy on these TD's and instead you add a crap looking Tier X and cripple the 263 as you move it to teir 9. Yeah, I'm sure people will flock to this line now.

 

They have some retarded notion that the crappy gun elevation is an inherent feature they should keep.

They are to stupid to realize that the crappy gun arc is what is killing the desire to play these tanks!!



mworthy #88 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 05:28

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i rather they buff the SU-122-54 then get rid of it, i mean i actually like the tank even with its faults but really them doing this kinda makes it worthless to grind that much for it if they are just going to get rid of it

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View PostSpectreHD, on Jan 12 2018 - 09:48, said:

So obviously the self proclaimed [edited] head of balance that knows best, Murazor, threw a hissy fit when you guys decided not to change the 263 is probably the reason we are still getting the 268 4. So the least you can do is give the 268 - 4 the same 130mm gun with the same stats as it is on the current Tier 10 263.

 

I sure hope to God when the devs decide to screw around with the US tree, you guys actually use your brains and do things properly. The devs already made the dumb decision to make the M60 a CW reward vehicle all those years back so now is the time to not screw up again. There better be an M60A1 in the US tree because it rightfully should be to top off the Pershing-Patton medium tank line. Let's not mention the T95E6 which could have been a second medium line Tier X. But no. Another CW reward vehicle.

 

Bloody brilliant team you guys have making these decisions.

 

+1 - What they should do is get rid of the T20, then downtier the M26, M46, and M48. The M60A1 would be on top. Or you could split the end of the M46 line with one going to the M48 and one going to the M60A1. But we're talking WG here, they won't do anything with American tanks...

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View Post_Ancesium_, on Jan 13 2018 - 00:42, said:

 

+1 - What they should do is get rid of the T20, then downtier the M26, M46, and M48. The M60A1 would be on top. Or you could split the end of the M46 line with one going to the M48 and one going to the M60A1. But we're talking WG here, they won't do anything with American tanks...

 

tbh i like the T20 but i can see the sense in that, at least the T20 was built and had a prototype, granted it had the same gun as the sherman since it was designed to replace it

Edited by mworthy, Jan 13 2018 - 07:00.


madgiecool #91 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 09:14

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View PostGaussDeath, on Jan 12 2018 - 10:04, said:

PLEASE, let us keep the SU-155-54 as a special premium.

 

100% agree.

 

I'd rather see the SU-122-54 made into a prem than some others.

 

Oh snap!   You made the Death Star into a prem because players really enjoy  hate 1 shot and death.  Wasn't that the main reason for the arty stun feature?  To remove the high alpha.

So what's the deal?  Why does it look like the SU-122-54 getting removed, and yet we still have to deal with Death Star's?



themusgrat #92 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 12:45

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This is so bad, but that's what we should be expecting.

 

Not a single WG employee who has any say will read this thread or hear about it. Everyone wasting their time complaining.



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View Postthemusgrat, on Jan 13 2018 - 19:45, said:

This is so bad, but that's what we should be expecting.

 

Not a single WG employee who has any say will read this thread or hear about it. Everyone wasting their time complaining.

 

Oh they did. Even the Russian players had their disagreement heard and WG decided not to change the 263. But then they have a stubborn, clueless muppet who thinks he knows it all in charge of balance. Considering said person's personality, no doubt he made a hissy fit to get the 263 change to go through.

BAKATARE #94 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 15:14

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What ETA does this update have, if any?  I want to know how much time I got to grind....

Roundrockballers #95 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 16:42

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So should we uncheck our T-10 accelerate crew training and start stock piling xp?

 



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Ya.  And the same for the IS.

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View PostSlatherer, on Jan 13 2018 - 16:10, said:

Ya. And the same for the IS.

 

I did that and am also grinding my obj  416....

grego34 #98 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 17:24

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why must war gaming take away a favorite we have?  why can't they give us a option to keep it like its our option to either buy a premium tank or not??  I myself don't ever want the 416 but  there are others that love that tank and went to extremes to get it and now to lose it maybe??   I thought this was a game for players to go to extremes to get a favorite tank and have fun, not to have it taken away from us because the Head honcho thinks its no good for us.

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There are several reasons why these high end tanks are getting changed and little has to do with balance or homogenization of the lines.

 

They are picking the high tiered tanks to make you grind again, and spend free XP.  They are taking away tanks with good guns that don't need to fire gold rounds and replacing them with mediocre guns that will need gold and have worse accuracy (so you miss more).

 

They are doing this right before the HD patch to have people log on and see the new tanks and try to grind them.  This is a way to get people playing without offering a deal or special.

 

While having new tanks isn't a bad idea, I think the new tanks are blah compared to the older ones.  The 263 is a great unique TD.  It is very hard to play but it can snipe and it can brawl.  It is an arty pinata, but it is different.  The tier 9 of that line, the SU-122-54 is also very hard to play.  It has high DPM, an accurate gun and needs to be played like a tier 9 E25 IMO, by exploiting view range and staying mobile.  I never liked it because i couldn't play it properly, but it is a unique and fun tank to play, as was the tier X 263.

 

They are ignoring players again however because they already made up their minds.  They will revamp each country in the same fashion as they have been.  They want you to grind away and use your free XP without creating an entirely new line.  They are also adding tier 8 through 10s, like they did with the French heavy line addition.  They are making all of the tank lines for each country the same.

 

Change is good, but just make the 263 remain like you did with the British tier X TD, and create a new tier 9.  No one wants to play another 750 alpha TD brawler with bad accuracy in a different line.  We already have about 10 of those.



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Can we get some kind of response from a WG-type-person about this SU-122-54 as a "special vehicle" kerfuffle?

 

I personally fall into the special vehicle category. It costs WG zero, it doesn't leave a game breaking vehicle in the game, and it makes all SU-122-54 owners happy. Where's the downside? Sad folks who never got one? Same thing applies to any removed vehicle becoming special, so WG has already come down on our side.

 

ON ANOTHER NOTE...

What gives with the two tier 10 placeholders? Are the lines going to be capped at tier 9 until further notice?


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