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DoctorThe19th #1 Posted Jan 12 2018 - 03:54

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honestly feeling like my recent WR and WN8 are going up while the total WR and WN8 stay the same or possibly going down..

how do I increase the total WR & WN8 to at least 50%? What's the best non scummy method?



Kamahl1234 #2 Posted Jan 12 2018 - 03:56

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Your totals will go towards whatever your recents are. 

 

So they're going up, you just have a long way to go as you have to fight thousands of battles of results to do so. 

 

 

 

Basically, keep doing what you're doing, and you'll get there eventually. The only way to speed it up is to get even better and win even more. 



churchill50 #3 Posted Jan 12 2018 - 04:09

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Your overall Wn8 and WR will eventually get to your recent Wn8 and WR. However, you are fighting 13k battles of playing at your overall stats, so it's going to take a while for your newly improved performance to bring them up.

The only real way to increase your overall Wn8 and WR more quickly (that's not dirty) would be to get better recent Wn8 and WR, which means improving further.



holdmecloserTonyDanza #4 Posted Jan 12 2018 - 04:11

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stay alive do damage...its really that simple

HisNameWasSethRich #5 Posted Jan 12 2018 - 04:15

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Buttknuckle #6 Posted Jan 12 2018 - 04:15

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Increasing overalls is slow once you start getting a lot of battles. It just math. Your overalls are 3% lower than your target of 50% while your recent is 3% over. If you continue to play at your current win rate you will need to play another 13K games to get to 50%.  There is no way to speed this up, scummy or otherwise, other than playing better.

 

I suggest you stop worrying about your overalls and focus on the recent. The overall will catch up eventually.



dominator_98 #7 Posted Jan 12 2018 - 04:22

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Here's the quick maths:

 

You have 13,000 battles at 750 wn8. If you play another 13,000 at your current 1050, your overalls will only be 900. That's why people reroll.

 

If you keep getting better, your recents will continue to improve and they will drag your overalls faster.



_kumicho_ #8 Posted Jan 12 2018 - 04:24

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the biggest change i made to my play is focusing on map awareness and staying alive. honestly... the basic play is so simple, but not easy. You need to be paying attention to the map to maximize the number of shots your going to be able to take... While im still learning this, ive seen great results in staying alive to shoot more shots by simply watching the minimap (theres another post solely on this...) and trying to be where i should be for the tank class. Where should you be? Where are you going to get shooting angles? where can you hide most of your tank and still get shots? where can you catch someone in a side or rear while they're engaged with teammates?

 

and patience. No need to rush, have a plan.

 

 



Cola_Uruguay #9 Posted Jan 12 2018 - 04:25

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You need to double your damage output somehow, you are doing in avg 498 damage at tier 5.92, that would be better off at around a thousand, find ways to get that extra damage and not only your wn8 will improve massivey but your wr will also go up dramatically from a rather lacking 53% recent

Gang_Starr #10 Posted Jan 12 2018 - 04:26

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It's impossible for your overalls to be going down if your recents are going up, that's not how math works...

Cola_Uruguay #11 Posted Jan 12 2018 - 04:29

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View PostGang_Starr, on Jan 12 2018 - 04:26, said:

It's impossible for your overalls to be going down if your recents are going up, that's not how math works...

 

this is THE post i would not advice being condescending in

T2Easy4ME #12 Posted Jan 12 2018 - 04:30

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Platoon with real purples. They'll learn you.

Slatherer #13 Posted Jan 12 2018 - 04:32

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Your totals will hardly go up, posts above clearly lay that out.  You can significantly increase your recents by playing about 4 games a day, strive for 50 to 75% winrate.  Do this for 2 months.  Watch your recent wr skyrocket.

moon111 #14 Posted Jan 12 2018 - 04:49

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There are players that do nothing.  There are players that are overly aggressive and die too soon.   There are players that are cautious, but can be smart about the damage they dish out.  Then there's players that slowly spend their hit points for the entire course of the game.  Of course they're not being completely reckless, but for most part, they are usually winning the exchange or failing that, going one for one with their exchange.  I also notice higher wn8 players aren't the best at flexing.  I see their minimap and they're less likely to go help out somewhere else.  To do so, takes their gun out of the game for that time period.  Unless they need to do so for more damage.  skill4ltu is one of the best players I've watched to keep his gun singing constantly and conserving just enough hit points to last the game.

 

 



DoctorThe19th #15 Posted Jan 12 2018 - 05:21

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View PostGang_Starr, on Jan 11 2018 - 19:26, said:

It's impossible for your overalls to be going down if your recents are going up, that's not how math works...

 

I haven't paid attention all that well but I feel like my overall wn8 went down a little. Probably wrong.

 

however thanks to anyone who gave helpful advice.

looks like I just have to worry about the recents instead of the overalls.



n00bfarmer #16 Posted Jan 12 2018 - 07:39

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Your recents are not that far above your overall so it will rise slowly. If you were able to play at a 2000 wn8 level and 55% or over w/r, you would see quicker changes to your overalls. Only way to do that is to get much better. I have seen some players find a light tank they can do really well in and that will boost your wn8 fastest and if you play the tank well, you can win over 55% in them. Tier 7 light tanks seem to get really good match making for some reason and are top tier a lot more than other mid tiers. Boost your wn8 and w/r with a T71 or Wz 131 tank.

bigbear72us #17 Posted Jan 12 2018 - 16:18

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Also, since you are over 10k battles, it takes more wins to push that percentage higher.

Numerius_Titurius_Sophus #18 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 15:39

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The best way to get your WR up is to platoon with unicums.  Many of the people you see with very large WRs do exactly that...sometimes exclusively.  I am too lazy to link the chart but WRs above 50% means you are on the right side of the normal curve (WRs pretty much follows a Normal curve).  If you get North of 54% you are doing better than the vast majority of players.  

 

However, WR alone is subject to abuse (like platooting with unicums),  WN8 alone is subject to abuse (like farming, chai sniping etc.)

 

The 2 together mean something...though still subject to abuse - like camping on many missions then platooning with unicums to boost WR - the following usually applies:

 

High WR/High WN8 - A very good player.  Highly skilled.

Low WR/Low WN8 - A scrub...tomato...useless.

High WR/Low WN8 - a stat padding platooner.

Low WR/High WN8 - A camper/farmer.  Useless.  A parasite.  The damage he does is redundant meaning it would have been done by another friendly.

 

The above can be done for medium players,,,if you see someone with a WN8 of 1400 but a WR of 49% they would fall into Low WR/High WN8 above.

 



mattwong #19 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 16:20

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View PostDoctorThe19th, on Jan 11 2018 - 21:54, said:

honestly feeling like my recent WR and WN8 are going up while the total WR and WN8 stay the same or possibly going down..

how do I increase the total WR & WN8 to at least 50%? What's the best non scummy method?

 

Stop thinking about WN8.  Seriously, ignore it completely.  Pretend it doesn't exist.  It's a horrible standard and it hurts the game.

 

Wins are the only thing that matters.  Damaging the enemy is only important insofar as it helps produce wins, but there are plenty of other things people do to induce wins, such as establishing area control on maps, spotting, creating opportunities for teammates, resetting enemy base caps, etc.



dunniteowl #20 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 16:20

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I am responding to this:

High WR/High WN8 - A very good player.  Highly skilled.

Low WR/Low WN8 - A scrub...tomato...useless.

High WR/Low WN8 - a stat padding platooner.

Low WR/High WN8 - A camper/farmer.  Useless.  A parasite.

 

I think your 'classifications' leave something to be desired -- like any sense of logical evidence that you have it right?  Those two numbers alone tell you two things:

 

What kind of damage player they are (high WN8 is based primarily on damage) and what kind of team player they are (high WR means more skilled at making a team win -- that includes something of a team playing concept, even if it's using your team mates to your best advantage when they are not skilled).

 

Stat padding or your opinion on their base motives for hitting those numbers lack any support in reality for your premises.  Therefore, I call that part into question and offer that, maybe if you simply based it on a level of game/comprehension skill/ability without the dross of why they reach those points personally, you'd probably be onto something.

 

GL, HF & HSYBF


Edited by dunniteowl, Jan 13 2018 - 16:31.





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