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Panzer_As_DN #1 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 01:06

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I find this tank to be super enjoyable simply due to the fact that no matter the map or situation this tank has what it takes to excel. It snipes better than any other medium in the game and certainly better than any Heavy. It can relocate and flank easily filling in where needed, brawls pretty well for a medium and did I mention this guns accuracy? It's like a "freaking laser gun." Oh, and the ramming ability is an aspect of this tanks abilities that should not be overlooked and really gives it an extra dimension that no other medium has and really gives it that extra layer of capability to be utilized when the opportunity presents itself and it can be devastating to opposing mediums and even a lot of heavies. So, what do you guys think, is the E50m the most versatile tank in the game? Where would you rank it as far as versatility goes?

chxrokee #2 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 01:10

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yeah it's a phenomenal tank, i really enjoy it.

the only thing that affects its versatility for me is the turret. can't use several hull down positions due to weak turret



nasfan #3 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 01:12

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The E50M is a great tank.  The E50 was my favorite tier 9, as well.  +1

Panzer_As_DN #4 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 01:46

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I cannot think of a more versatile tier ten tank. Just can't do it.

Dirizon #5 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 01:48

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The problem E5OM has with its usefulness, is that it is a fantasy tank. It is a random battles, 3/5/7 tank. It excels when and where its semi-useful armour can lay beatdowns to tier 8s, whereas things like STB1, Leo, AMX3O, TVP suffer penetrations and damage taken. Sturdy side armour for a med, wide tracks even let it reverse out and bait and side scrape, which M48A and Cent A X have trouble with. And in relation to soviet meds, as they are tough too, it trades better for 32O vs 39O, making it seem more a heavy in T8-9 matches, especially because of the higher health. It carries alot of ammunition, and is plenty fast for public battles where competition will be less and only limited to 3 T X. It is extremely versatile, and even features a radioman to get situational awareness fast.

 

 

However, that is where the success and versatility ends. In competition, in grands and ranked, E5OM reveals its true colours and nature, its true struggles. What commander ever calls for an E5OM. Its massive size does not lend well as a medium. When and where against other dominant X tanks, it cannot serve anymore as a fake fast heavy (less alpha, poorer HP, less armour) Its slow acceleration, turning, poor terrain resists bog it down, meaning other meds swiftly react faster. Poor camo mean E5OM serves atrociously as a backup scout or dashing cover to cover. It does not even sport 1Om extra view range other meds feature, meaning worse camo + less spotting range. Poor turret armour hurts its supposed good armour Profile, essentially a tier 8 turret, with no longer T8 to fight. It has a terrible flat turret. And the woeful DPM, with no improvement from the T9, worst among Meds, and worse than even some heavy tanks is a huge blow. That nice side armour among 8s is also old news, and nothing special T X. Accuracy doesn't matter, as most CW warfare is shorter range using gold ammo, long range can't reliably pick out weakness nor do enemies in CW competition allow themselves to be exposed. Practical averageness and versatility  no longer means anything, when 113 does that role a tonne better. And the benefit of situational awareness runs out because of CW T X tanks having final well trained crews getting it with their commanders anyway without a radioman, and other radioman crew skills suck.

 

Make no mistake, a great pub and platoon tank. Make no mistake, an awful and terrible competition tank. 



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View PostDavidN28, on Jan 13 2018 - 00:46, said:

I cannot think of a more versatile tier ten tank. Just can't do it.

 

I really like the E50M.   Get controlled impact on the driver and have a blast in pubs.   It is not used very much in CW except for situations where you need a well armored sniper.   And even in that role there are some better options.

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View PostDavidN28, on Jan 12 2018 - 20:16, said:

I cannot think of a more versatile tier ten tank. Just can't do it.

 

121, T62A, 14O, 43O, 9O7, 113   are all more versatile. I would even include Cent A X and WZ5A as more versatile. 

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I definitely agree that the E50M is a great tank. I am looking forward to picking one up at some point (just not to grinding the tier 7 and 8 in the line).

 

However, I'm not sure I would call it the most versatile tier 10 medium tank. I think that title should go to the Object 140 instead (or possibly the Object 907).

There are two things that the E 50M is missing that keep it from being called the most versatile tier 10 medium in my book. Those things are turret armor and camo.

 

However, as I said, I still believe the E 50M is a very good tank, even if it isn't the most versatile.



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Scorpion G is my favorite "tier 10 medium" tank. No armor but 490 damage and 60 kph is great.

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Panzer_As_DN #10 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 02:13

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I don't believe the soviet mediums are as versatile they can go hull down better that's about it. What am I missing here?

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View PostDavidN28, on Jan 12 2018 - 18:13, said:

I don't believe the soviet mediums are as versatile they can go hull down better that's about it. What am I missing here?

 

Let's compare then shall we.

The RU meds win in DPM, gun handling, turning speed, turret armor, and camo.

The E 50M wins in alpha, pen, and hull armor.

They're about even in mobility other than the traverse speed (E 50M has 3 higher power/weight, but loses massively in terrain resistances).



Panzer_As_DN #12 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 02:21

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E50m guns are more accurate, less dispersion. Idk, I'm omw to the T-62A ill have a better understanding then also. But I pull off shots with my E50m gun that are basically needle threads that i'll be surprised if the T-62A can do the same. I can focus on hatches at distances that have been impossible thus far in any other tank.

 


Edited by DavidN28, Jan 13 2018 - 02:35.


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View PostDavidN28, on Jan 12 2018 - 18:21, said:

E50m guns are more accurate, less dispersion also. Idk, I'm omw to the T-62A ill have a better understanding then also. But I pull off shots with my E50m gun that are basically needle threads that i'll be surprised if the T-62A can do the same. I can focus on hatches at distances that have been impossible thus far in any other tank.

 

 

Yes, the E 50M wins on accuracy, by 0.5 (0.29 accuracy for the E50M, vs 0.34 for the Object 140). However, the E 50M does not have better dispersion values. The E 50M has 0.13/0.13/0.08 vs the Object 140's 0.08/0.08/0.10.

 

I'm not saying your opinion is wrong. The E 50M is undoubtedly a very good and versatile tank. I just prefer the Object 140 for versatility.


Edited by churchill50, Jan 13 2018 - 02:49.


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DPM, turret armor is what kills me, still like it

Dirizon #15 Posted Jan 13 2018 - 08:33

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Accuracy won't matter. A superheavy meta, and WG WoT idea on minimizing frontal weakness, and post accuracy P8.7 changes means shooting is utterly random, and weak spots are fewer/smaller. Late tier heavy tanks are faster, like WZ5A, 113, lS7 meaning sniping them isn't reliable, and they aren't blind like lS3 - they offer full 39O-4OOm view ranges. Then there are the Pen losses, over 4-5OOm sniping ranges. So, when HEAT starts getting used often, and it does, accuracy less apparent, especially because of soviet med RoF

 

Accuracy is a horrid balancing metric. Lemmingrush talks about its ineffectiveness in a Leopard clip. DPM and gun control, AKA getting ready to fire quicker and faster, are far more important and reliable. 



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View PostDavidN28, on Jan 13 2018 - 00:06, said:

I find this tank to be super enjoyable simply due to the fact that no matter the map or situation this tank has what it takes to excel. It snipes better than any other medium in the game and certainly better than any Heavy. It can relocate and flank easily filling in where needed, brawls pretty well for a medium and did I mention this guns accuracy? It's like a "freaking laser gun." Oh, and the ramming ability is an aspect of this tanks abilities that should not be overlooked and really gives it an extra dimension that no other medium has and really gives it that extra layer of capability to be utilized when the opportunity presents itself and it can be devastating to opposing mediums and even a lot of heavies. So, what do you guys think, is the E50m the most versatile tank in the game? Where would you rank it as far as versatility goes?

 

There's another way you could look at this, and that is that the E50M is actually equally bad at everything.  It's an entirely middle of the road tank, the only thing special about it is it's unusual size and weight (and possibly it's TD style sniper-cannon).  Everything else is fairly average compared to other tierX medium tanks.  This means that, in some other area, most other tier X mediums have an edge over the E50M.  Weather it be view range, traverse speed, or something else.

 

Call me a pessimist :P



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View Poststarbomber, on Jan 13 2018 - 10:21, said:

 

There's another way you could look at this, and that is that the E50M is actually equally bad at everything.  It's an entirely middle of the road tank, the only thing special about it is it's unusual size and weight (and possibly it's TD style sniper-cannon).  Everything else is fairly average compared to other tierX medium tanks.  This means that, in some other area, most other tier X mediums have an edge over the E50M.  Weather it be view range, traverse speed, or something else.

 

Call me a pessimist :P

 

​Except for the fact that when you play it you find that it is not bad. :rolleyes:

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View PostDavidN28, on Jan 13 2018 - 09:28, said:

 

Except for the fact that when you play it you find that it is not bad. 

 

Trust me. l play it, and try my best to do moderately well in it. l hate it. lt is very bad at anything except dealing with T8-9.

My worst, least favourite T X.

 



Panzer_As_DN #19 Posted Jan 16 2018 - 00:05

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View PostDirizon, on Jan 14 2018 - 08:30, said:

 

Trust me. l play it, and try my best to do moderately well in it. l hate it. lt is very bad at anything except dealing with T8-9.

My worst, least favourite T X.

 

 

​That's unfortunate for you, but that doesn't hold true for everyone.

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It's hard to argue with the Obj 140/T62a firing every 5.45 seconds (5.22 with food) along with it's hovertank abilities and much greater turret/camo.

 

I want to like the E50M, but that's why my grind towards it has slowed (literally like 2 battles away from the E50M in exp) and lines I hadn't even started prior are supplanting it (Japanese, French and Czech)...






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