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Poll: Does MT15 for the T28HTC need reworked? (37 members have cast votes)

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Does MT15 need worked to something that fits the current way the game is played?

  1. Yes it does, the current mission doesn't fit the game currently (12 votes [32.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 32.43%

  2. No, its just fine the way it is (25 votes [67.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 67.57%

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SleeperAssasssin #1 Posted Jan 14 2018 - 06:44

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I have been trying to get this mission done for a long time and I have found 2 reasons why this mission needs changed. And to clarify, the mission requirements are 1k damage to TDs and 2 TDs destroyed.

 

1) There aren't enough TDs in games to give you much of a chance to get the damage or kills you need. Many of the games I get there are 2 maybe 3 TDs in them if I'm lucky. There have been LOTS of games with 1 or no TDs at all in them as well. Making them throw away games as far as the mission goes.

 

2) This mission makes you play the matches in a way you normally wouldn't play a MT. Due to the low MT count I find myself drawn after TDs like a bug to a bug zapper (usually with the same outcome since they have friends). It forces us to push after TDs as hard as we can since there are so few in the matches that we need to do roughly half of each of the 2 we go for's health assuming its higher tiers. This makes me play overly aggressive to push for them, and leaves me out to get surrounded and killed. If there were more TDs in matches it wouldn't be as big of a deal. And at lower tiers (T5 or so) there are more TDs but their health is so low you have to do all the damage to 2 or them and half another most of the time.

 

WG please look at this mission. I got to that mission first of all on this set and its the last one I have left due to how the game plays it just doesn't fit and makes people play in a way that they wouldn't normally play and hurts the rest of the team.

 

Thank you,

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Ferdinand910 #2 Posted Jan 14 2018 - 06:47

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To be Honest, if you play higher tier game, 7-10, you will see more than enough TD's... was running 8's with a clan mate tonight and there are more than enough TD's running around at high tiers to do 1k and 2 TD kills

SleeperAssasssin #3 Posted Jan 14 2018 - 06:49

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View PostFerdinand910, on Jan 14 2018 - 06:47, said:

To be Honest, if you play higher tier game, 7-10, you will see more than enough TD's... was running 8's with a clan mate tonight and there are more than enough TD's running around at high tiers to do 1k and 2 TD kills

 

I have ran a lot of T8s and T10s, usually only seeing 2 or 3 TDs and again, I have to play far to aggressive because I need to do a majority of the damage to each of them to do it.

Heiden49 #4 Posted Jan 14 2018 - 06:59

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I can +1 to sleeper here, after playing for 5-9hrs a day for more than a week in tier 8's and 9's we saw on average 2-3 TD's per battle and usually have a T95 or something higher tiered like a tortoise or a Jagdpanzer E100. Not saying its impossible but i dont think it should be so hard it has to be a new year goal.

 



AMSRocker #5 Posted Jan 14 2018 - 07:33

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There are a few missions that are VERY situational! Too situational to say the least

SenaKashiwazaki #6 Posted Jan 14 2018 - 08:03

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I've been playing T6... sometimes see 6-8 TDS per game.... Maybe i'm just lucky?

The_Wreckege #7 Posted Jan 14 2018 - 08:21

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Wait till you get to the 260. You gotta do 3.5k to Tds, luckily I did it but I lost and never ever did it again :(

 

Keep trying higher tiers, you'll get it eventually, it's easier to do 1k damage to tds there (8+)


Edited by The_Wreckege, Jan 14 2018 - 08:21.


Saint_Metagross #8 Posted Jan 14 2018 - 08:51

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View PostFerdinand910, on Jan 13 2018 - 21:47, said:

To be Honest, if you play higher tier game, 7-10, you will see more than enough TD's... was running 8's with a clan mate tonight and there are more than enough TD's running around at high tiers to do 1k and 2 TD kills

 

Not entirely true, for  a week now, I've been playing with tier 8 MTs trying to complete this mission.  The most TD's I've ever seen in a single match was three of them.  Never got to shot them for they were typically killed before I could even shot them once.  Three is not enough to give you a chance to get them, when your teams typically have four or five MTs.



Mokoma #9 Posted Jan 14 2018 - 09:28

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This issue with MT15 isn't that it's impossible to do (it's extremely possible), it's that it makes no sense as a capstone mission. The 15th mission of a set is suppose to represent mastery of the intended role of the class, which (arguably, I suppose) each do..with the glaring exception of MT15, which is an entirely illogical final mission. Not only does it cause people to play in ways that are both selfish and apart from the normal manner in which they would do so (symptoms enough of a bad mission as though that may be), it makes utterly no sense as an exceptional performance in the MT role. It could fit, maybe, as one of the lower missions (although it would still be a bad mission), but not as the 15th. I've always strongly suggested that it be replaced with a more fitting mission, one that actually represents the MT role.

SleeperAssasssin #10 Posted Jan 14 2018 - 10:08

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View PostLord_Hiney, on Jan 14 2018 - 09:28, said:

This issue with MT15 isn't that it's impossible to do (it's extremely possible), it's that it makes no sense as a capstone mission. The 15th mission of a set is suppose to represent mastery of the intended role of the class, which (arguably, I suppose) each do..with the glaring exception of MT15, which is an entirely illogical final mission. Not only does it cause people to play in ways that are both selfish and apart from the normal manner in which they would do so (symptoms enough of a bad mission as though that may be), it makes utterly no sense as an exceptional performance in the MT role. It could fit, maybe, as one of the lower missions (although it would still be a bad mission), but not as the 15th. I've always strongly suggested that it be replaced with a more fitting mission, one that actually represents the MT role.

 

Completely agree with what you said about it. It makes MTs play far outside how they normally would. I think this would fit a LT mission better as LTs find openings in the lines and get to the guys in the back and cause havok.

SleeperAssasssin #11 Posted Jan 14 2018 - 10:08

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View PostSenaKashiwazaki, on Jan 14 2018 - 08:03, said:

I've been playing T6... sometimes see 6-8 TDS per game.... Maybe i'm just lucky?

 

Unlucky seems like my running theme in games sometimes lol.

Canoodian #12 Posted Jan 14 2018 - 11:35

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As someone who has the 260, and has completed that mission, I dont think its harder than many of the other missions. I will say, its far more luck dependant than the td or heavy missions, but its not drastically so. Basically, I could see a change, but its not impossible.

 

That being said, you talk about changing the way you play. The thing is, you arent forced to. Dont do that, and instead only change  the general locations you plan to go to, skewing towards tds, and your clean up routes. Blindly rushing will just have you frustrated, when instead you should be aiming for a decent game + tds, rather than tds above all else, as the latter doesnt seem to work for you. I mean clearly itll take longer to do the less skilled you are, but you want to give yourself the best chances with what you have, and thats not yoloing till you get lucky. 



_Gungrave_ #13 Posted Jan 14 2018 - 12:17

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The way you do missions is you always select the most annoying ones first and just play the game normally ignoring missions unless its one where you cap with a heavy as that one is beyond stupid.

 

The more you actively concentrate on completing missions the harder they become due to you throwing the game repeatedly trying to complete a mission. It is better for you and the team if you simply play normally. Better to just let the missions fall as they may as you will enjoy the game more and when a mission is completed its a nice random thing to cheer you up.

 

I say this as someone who has 45 out of 70 Obj 260 missions finished right now and have completed them all passively by just playing normally while grinding tanks.


Edited by _Gungrave_, Jan 14 2018 - 14:22.


Firemoth #14 Posted Jan 14 2018 - 13:30

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play a cheese autoloader like skoda T50 or T54E1. you only need 1 clip on a TD to get your damage requirement and you can use your big clip dmg + fast reload to finish them off fast.

 

i did my MT15.3 in my T54e1 by clipping an E4 and killing him AND clipping a FV183 and killing him too.


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BattleshipBob27 #15 Posted Jan 14 2018 - 14:20

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It’s an easy mission to do. Unless you’re trying it at T4-5. I did it in my T-34-85 in a solo game.
Try platooning with two other players in TDs. Then MM will give you more TDs to shoot at. Make sure your friend don’t shoot TDs that you can saving that HP for you.
The next one for 3.5k I did in the T50 auto loader and needed the platoon to get it.

Redcoat #16 Posted Jan 14 2018 - 14:57

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You guys realize that some of these missions are supposed to be a challenge, right? I mean, for the reward tank to mean something, some of the missions actually have to take some time, effort and luck to accomplish. You shouldn't get them just because you want to. The HTC is not a participation trophy.

 

This mission is eminently doable... It might take a week or two to get the right circumstance, the right battle, but it will happen... 



Marchosia #17 Posted Jan 14 2018 - 15:12

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did MT15.1, 15.2, and 15.3 all with a either a crommy or T34-85.

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View PostSleeperAssasssin, on Jan 14 2018 - 00:44, said:

I have been trying to get this mission done for a long time and I have found 2 reasons why this mission needs changed. And to clarify, the mission requirements are 1k damage to TDs and 2 TDs destroyed.

 

1) There aren't enough TDs in games to give you much of a chance to get the damage or kills you need. Many of the games I get there are 2 maybe 3 TDs in them if I'm lucky. There have been LOTS of games with 1 or no TDs at all in them as well. Making them throw away games as far as the mission goes.

 

 

lol, if only that was the case...



Bubba187 #19 Posted Jan 14 2018 - 17:32

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Platoon with someone playing a td, that will ensure at least one on the other side usually.  Don't try to get all the damage and kills on td's early on, but rather look for an opportunistic push that you can get in and take them out.  Recognize which maps might be easier for this.  It is really situational, but I found it to actually be easier than the MT missions requiring SPG damage and kills.  Auto loaders are great for late game clean up or strong pushes.  Just have to time the point you move in aggressively, or where you snipe from.

 

I found that a lot of those situational missions caused me to play horribly when I finally came across the right circumstances.  Most of those situational ones I ended up completing through normal gameplay rather than getting giddy because there were a bunch of td's on the other side and making bad plays to try and complete the mission.



SturmEnte #20 Posted Jan 14 2018 - 17:53

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Some of the missions are too situational.  The challenge should come from a skill requirement not from a place of random chance.  Those are the ones I skipped when I could.

Get into an autoloader if you have one.  The Skoda T25 would work well for the mission.  The higher tiers have more HP though, so the 1,000 damage is easier to get.  Also, I never see a lack of TDs at tier 10 whenever I play it.




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