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Daigensui #21 Posted Jan 27 2018 - 09:33

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View PostCmdr_Adama_BSG75, on Jan 26 2018 - 18:32, said:

Not another damn autoloader. If you are gonna do this silly stuff, then buff the damn Tiger 1. The most feared tank of WW2 and its gotta face tanks made 10-15 years later. STUPID. How a Tiger 1 and a T-29 end up on the same battlefield is beyond wishful thinking, its a fantasy. And to put it up against tier IX heavies is a freaking JOKE. You guys spend all this time and effort on making historically accurate looking tanks, then place them against tanks that weren't even dreamed of at the time they were made. I started playing this game years ago because of the allure of playing a Tiger. I soon found out its a PAPER Tiger. Same with the 131 and the HT-6, they should NOT be seeing the armor on tier VIIIs. You get into a tier VIII battle in those and you just better go hide. Same in a Tiger 1 at tier IX. 

And now you want to make another tank line. As an autoloader. May as well allow 5 arties per game. When are we going to see the"Tank Girl" tank?

 

Tiger rant over. You wanted feedback, you got it.

View Postdocroberts, on Jan 26 2018 - 19:24, said:

Can I have my WT E100 back now or give this pile of junk Grill a turret . And while your at it fix tier 8 mm and make it were I can bounce back and forth from the NA server to the EU without losing my tanks . We have no playerbase now since everyone got fed up and the game play is beyond stupid . 

 

Why is it that it is always the bad players whining about such trivial things.



_Mendes_ #22 Posted Jan 27 2018 - 13:42

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E ai esse do video vai ser um premium ou da linha que vocês estão montando por que ser for um premium seria o certo coloca ele nem que seja por um dia de aluguel para todos experimentarem pra saber se vale a pena gasta o dinheiro nesse ja que o senhores removerem o do site do worldostanks o torneios........

WoundedRaccoon #23 Posted Jan 27 2018 - 14:10

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I've been looking forward to this tank line.  I can't wait to run about with a M13/40.  How about a Semovente TD?

Snohoe #24 Posted Jan 27 2018 - 14:28

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So around when's the prem coming out? I've wanted a tank with a system like this forever.

MajorRenegade #25 Posted Jan 27 2018 - 15:50

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Since they're using a new kind of autoloader. Will we be able to mount a gun rammer?

flaviosquilla #26 Posted Jan 27 2018 - 15:53

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Will this tank be realeased before the christmas female crew expire?

BigNaturals #27 Posted Jan 27 2018 - 16:03

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little late on telling us to use our holiday girl crew, who keeps girls in the barracks for a new tech tree? lol guess we need new missions to get more girls or let us use gold to retrain to a new nation

y_KnT #28 Posted Jan 27 2018 - 16:22

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View Postflaviosquilla, on Jan 27 2018 - 06:53, said:

Will this tank be realeased before the christmas female crew expire?

 

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This seems like it could be an interesting mechanic. However, do we really need a new nation, with several lines, and a new gun mechanic now? T8 matchmaking is still crappy, the old maps are still looking like they are, (Not Hd, and quite repetitive). Furthermore, grand battles still only has one map. (Full disclosure, I do not own a T10 tank, I just know several people who want a new map for the grand battles). I feel like this could wait for a while after the "1.0" update unless it releases new maps (I have heard nothing about that). Also, I am a little concerned about the viability of true autoloading tanks, especially mediums. Comparing this tank to other autoloading mediums, who would want to play the others? Unless it is a tank with better mobility, armor, etc these new tanks seem to be a lot more flexible. Just my 2 cents Wargaming. 

Deputy276 #30 Posted Jan 27 2018 - 16:42

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View PostMikosah, on Jan 26 2018 - 19:09, said:

So WG shamelessly copied AW's auto-refill mechanics. Not a bad idea, but careful with balancing. It'll be very easy for this to render existing guns obsolete.

 

As soon as I read it I immediately thought of the Merkava in AW. I guess imitation IS the sincerest form of flattery. But I guess original thought has disappeared from WG. 

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What I would really like to see in all the auto loaders is the ability to reload just the fired rounds. Apparently to reload an auto loader in the real world you would first offload all remaining rounds in the clip and then load from scratch. Why not just give every round a time to load so if you say fired 2 rounds out of a 6 round clip it wouldn't take 30 sec to reload a clip but 10 seconds to reload the 2 rounds. Changing ammo type would still be a full reload unless the game mechanics were changed so you could choose between a full clip change or back filling the clip with the new type of ammo. Say your shooting AP rounds and your clip is half empty you could choose to reload just a half clip of HEAT rounds for half the reload, the first 3 rounds would be AP followed by 3 HEAT rounds.

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New maps, more maps, less fictitious over-powered tanks!

LawBear #33 Posted Jan 27 2018 - 17:06

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Hmmm, Italian tanks. One forward speed and seven reverse speeds?

Daigensui #34 Posted Jan 27 2018 - 17:08

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View PostMikosah, on Jan 26 2018 - 19:09, said:

So WG shamelessly copied AW's auto-refill mechanics. Not a bad idea, but careful with balancing. It'll be very easy for this to render existing guns obsolete.

View PostDeputy276, on Jan 27 2018 - 07:42, said:

As soon as I read it I immediately thought of the Merkava in AW. I guess imitation IS the sincerest form of flattery. But I guess original thought has disappeared from WG. 

 

This is just a modification of the original proposal for STB-1. If anything Snail is the copycat.

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Wait a minute now. They have the nerve to say it was hard to make these tanks because there were no models to go on? Are kidding me? That's a joke right?  Look at the Japanese heavy line. Completely fake past the tier 5/6. My god Italian tanks actually existed! Don't hand of this bull you had to "work hard" on a design. 

 

But I am glad to see Italian tanks! Always wondered why there wasn't even a premium. Someone at management must have had issues with Italians ;)

 

So auto-reloading huh? Sounds like [edited]. I'm assuming this negates gun rammer equipment? Also how do select HE VS AP VS premium round?



Striker_70 #36 Posted Jan 27 2018 - 18:38

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This is going to require a lot of testing before it's released.  Hopefully they don't try to rush it out too quickly.  There's going to be a fine line between making this new mechanic worthless or extremely OP.

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View PostCartwright, on Jan 27 2018 - 09:52, said:

What I would really like to see in all the auto loaders is the ability to reload just the fired rounds. Apparently to reload an auto loader in the real world you would first offload all remaining rounds in the clip and then load from scratch. Why not just give every round a time to load so if you say fired 2 rounds out of a 6 round clip it wouldn't take 30 sec to reload a clip but 10 seconds to reload the 2 rounds. Changing ammo type would still be a full reload unless the game mechanics were changed so you could choose between a full clip change or back filling the clip with the new type of ammo. Say your shooting AP rounds and your clip is half empty you could choose to reload just a half clip of HEAT rounds for half the reload, the first 3 rounds would be AP followed by 3 HEAT rounds.

Because the original autoloaders were french, and the majority of the reload time was simulating the time it would take the crew to simply swap pre loaded drums irl.  Think of the French drums like a bigger version of the 50 round drums on a Thompson submachinegun.  I'm not sure if different ammo types could even be loaded in the same drum.

 

The american autoloaders simply had their mechanics copied from the french.  But the american system was actually more like a revolver cyclinder than a tommy gun drum, and if it had been introduced first, would have probably been more similar to this new italian system  in model.



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View PostStriker_70, on Jan 27 2018 - 11:38, said:

This is going to require a lot of testing before it's released.  Hopefully they don't try to rush it out too quickly.  There's going to be a fine line between making this new mechanic worthless or extremely OP.

This was my exact thought, especially after running some quick and dirty numbers on the current state of the T8 prem's dpm and burst. (See last post on first page)



Deputy276 #39 Posted Jan 27 2018 - 19:10

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View PostDaigensui, on Jan 27 2018 - 10:08, said:

 

This is just a modification of the original proposal for STB-1. If anything Snail is the copycat.

 

So they never brought it out. Still makes them a  copycat. Just because you have a good idea but sit on your butt and do nothing about it, doesn't mean you get the credit for it. First out gets the credit.

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is this tank/tech tree on the sandbox right now




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