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BillT #1 Posted Mar 01 2018 - 22:24

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For the second time in two days WG has abruptly deleted a thread accusing them of banning players for using illegal mods, when the players claim the mods were downloaded from WOT's own mod site.   In another thread, people are talking about WG's horrendously bad record of communicating with their customers.

 

WG folks: This is a great example.   The threads you deleted have raised a LOT of concern, even among steadfast customers like me who are skeptical about wild claims.   By deleting them you have only made us more concerned.  If you think deleting those threads improves your image, you've got it dead wrong.

You really need to make a statement here on the forums about why, specifically, you deleted those threads.  Were the posters lying?  Can a player can be banned for a mod they downloaded from your mod hub?  Do we need to delete old python logs and clean our registries to avoid improper bans?  What's the appeal process if we contest a ban?

 

Right now it feels like I'm playing Russian roulette.  (sic)



el_mucho_dingdong #2 Posted Mar 01 2018 - 22:32

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_Tsavo_ #3 Posted Mar 01 2018 - 22:35

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Classic WG, there will be no discontentment, you will accept anything and everything we say and you will be happy about it.

 

WG, doing their level best to bungle things up.



Whisky_A_Go_Go #4 Posted Mar 01 2018 - 22:37

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View PostBillT, on Mar 01 2018 - 16:24, said:

For the second time in two days WG has abruptly deleted a thread accusing them of banning players for using illegal mods, when the players claim the mods were downloaded from WOT's own mod site.   In another thread, people are talking about WG's horrendously bad record of communicating with their customers.

 

WG folks: This is a great example.   The threads you deleted have raised a LOT of concern, even among steadfast customers like me who are skeptical about wild claims.   By deleting them you have only made us more concerned.  If you think deleting those threads improves your image, you've got it dead wrong.

You really need to make a statement here on the forums about why, specifically, you deleted those threads.  Were the posters lying?  Can a player can be banned for a mod they downloaded from your mod hub?  Do we need to delete old python logs and clean our registries to avoid improper bans?  What's the appeal process if we contest a ban?

 

Right now it feels like I'm playing Russian roulette.  (sic)

 

They're actually up to about 7 threads deleted at this point, but who is counting?

Whisky_A_Go_Go #5 Posted Mar 01 2018 - 22:37

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View Post_Tsavo, on Mar 01 2018 - 16:35, said:

Classic WG, there will be no discontentment, you will accept anything and everything we say and you will be happy about it.

 

WG, doing their level best to bungle things up.

 

That's twice in two days I've completely agreed with you. I'm beginning to think I'm in the Twilight Zone.

Chalybos #6 Posted Mar 01 2018 - 22:38

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I'll be honest, right now the way they're handling things is leaving me 100% not inclined to log in.

I've seen threads and topics that they've left sitting and festering for days before locking, threads that were solely created to get players riled up and trolled, and they were left alone, unless someone's individual comments were over the line.  And even then, they didn't delete the threads.

This?  Nah, this does not give me the slightest bit of confidence right now, and I'm one to let a company have a considerable bit of leeway as to how they run their company.  The way the last day has looked though, I'm just not feeling encouraged in the slightest bit.  And that's what drives nails into coffins.



Silencer021 #7 Posted Mar 01 2018 - 22:38

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Just wait until they start changing past news articles, oh wait that already happens.

Chalybos #8 Posted Mar 01 2018 - 22:38

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Wait ... when this gets deleted, do I get my upvotes back? :unsure:

Kamahl1234 #9 Posted Mar 01 2018 - 22:39

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Note, these threads claiming this, but why would those players be singled out if they downloaded the same mods from the same location as many others? A lot of people have tried this new mod offering system.

 

I feel there's more to it than the players claim or may think, and unless I see concrete proof that something is properly wrong, I can't blame a company for not allowing sensationalized posts decrying a newly released system. 



Whisky_A_Go_Go #10 Posted Mar 01 2018 - 22:40

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View PostChalybos, on Mar 01 2018 - 16:38, said:

I'll be honest, right now the way they're handling things is leaving me 100% not inclined to log in.

 

I actually logged in today for the first time in quite a while. I just wanted to see if I was banned because I always used Aslain's.

 

I wasn't. But then again, I was three patches behind and hadn't installed anything in so long that I guess that made me safe by default.



_Promote_Synergy_ #11 Posted Mar 01 2018 - 22:44

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Post it all over Reddit where they can't reach it.

_Gungrave_ #12 Posted Mar 01 2018 - 22:50

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View PostChalybos, on Mar 01 2018 - 22:38, said:

I'll be honest, right now the way they're handling things is leaving me 100% not inclined to log in.

 

Well if/when they respond to all of this they're sure to post on the forums because unlike reddit they can't get downvoted here.

Nunya_000 #13 Posted Mar 01 2018 - 22:51

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scHnuuudle_bop #14 Posted Mar 01 2018 - 22:59

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Players complain about illegal MOD's, WG  does something, now they are in trouble for trying to fix things.  They may not communicate well, but it seems like a good indicator they listen.

 

 Aslain's works just fine, and it has been said, it takes more than one instance of breaking the rules to get kicked out.

MOD's are one of the more brilliant moves this company made. Open source code, lots of tinkering, and presto, free programming.

 

 

 



24_inch_pythons #15 Posted Mar 01 2018 - 22:59

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View PostChalybos, on Mar 01 2018 - 15:38, said:

Wait ... when this gets deleted, do I get my upvotes back? :unsure:

 

​Yes, any upvotes you get on a deleted thread are yours to keep.

24_inch_pythons #16 Posted Mar 01 2018 - 23:01

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View PostKamahl1234, on Mar 01 2018 - 15:39, said:

Note, these threads claiming this, but why would those players be singled out if they downloaded the same mods from the same location as many others? A lot of people have tried this new mod offering system.

 

I feel there's more to it than the players claim or may think, and unless I see concrete proof that something is properly wrong, I can't blame a company for not allowing sensationalized posts decrying a newly released system. 

 

​It looks like -possibly- Wargaming is looking at registry entries. Entries that may be very old, potentially.

Cognitive_Dissonance #17 Posted Mar 01 2018 - 23:03

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View PostSilencer021, on Mar 01 2018 - 15:38, said:

Just wait until they start changing past news articles, oh wait that already happens.

 

i.e. like when the Defender was supposed to go on sale?

 



dominator_98 #18 Posted Mar 01 2018 - 23:05

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View Post_Promote_Synergy_, on Mar 01 2018 - 15:44, said:

Post it all over Reddit where they can't reach it.

 

^^ This. 

shinglefoot #19 Posted Mar 01 2018 - 23:07

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     Deletions will continue until morale improves comrade...

 

 

Damn posted before I saw Nunya's...:(


Edited by shinglefoot, Mar 01 2018 - 23:09.


CabbageMechanic #20 Posted Mar 01 2018 - 23:17

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Threads discussing disciplinary actions will continue to be removed and/or closed, they are against forum rules.

I am working internally on several of the larger questions regarding the mod portal and mod legality, and hope to have a proper detailed response for all soon.

In the meantime, regarding the claims that people are being banned for mods they just downloaded from the portal, the answer is a definitive no.  The process for determining which accounts need to appear on ban lists is long and deeply involved, and the list itself was finalized before the mod portal even went live.

We will be responding in more detail to this issue soon.


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Edited by CabbageMechanic, Mar 01 2018 - 23:18.





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