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FlakKnight #21 Posted Mar 05 2018 - 04:24

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Make it bigger than the M48 first then we can reconsider.

spud_tuber #22 Posted Mar 05 2018 - 04:29

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View PostFlakKnight, on Mar 04 2018 - 21:24, said:

Make it bigger than the M48 first then we can reconsider.

Well, M48 has better VR, DPM, turret armor, camo, standard pen, gun handling, gun depression, and mobility.  It gives up 10 alpha, 10 gold pen, hull armor,  some HP(200?), and I guess the size difference so it can get all that.  Personally, I'm not so sure the M48 didn't get the better end of that deal.  



Morty__ #23 Posted Mar 05 2018 - 05:08

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View PostEmperorJuliusCaesar, on Mar 04 2018 - 22:21, said:

 

It was overpowered and over-performing, that's why it had to get nerfed.  By server stats, it's still doing well, it's just not OP anymore.  Sorry your OP tank got made fair and balanced.

 

It’s just not true that it’s still doing well:

http://www.vbaddict.net/statistics.php?tier=10&tanktype=0&nation=0&premium=0&modeid=0&team=0&battles=1000&groupby=0&fieldname=damage_dealt&server=

 

Only one heavy deals less dmg and it’s the IS-4

 

I think there’s an avg of 5-6 super conqs in every ranked battle these days and there are virtually no E5s

Hurk #24 Posted Mar 05 2018 - 05:17

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View PostEmperorJuliusCaesar, on Mar 04 2018 - 20:21, said:

It was overpowered and over-performing, that's why it had to get nerfed.  By server stats, it's still doing well, it's just not OP anymore.  Sorry your OP tank got made fair and balanced.

the tumor makes it unworkable for people below 55% win rate... IE like 85% + of the player base. 

it needs a small mobility nerf, and the hat needs to be reshaped into a proper beak that is troll like it should be, along with the armor model fixed so that the 132mm weakspots are replaced with 152mm like the armor is supposed to be. 

 

this is not doing well. this is imbalanced. 

its under performing for all but the best of players. 



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View PostHurk, on Mar 04 2018 - 22:17, said:

the tumor makes it unworkable for people below 55% win rate... IE like 85% + of the player base. 

it needs a small mobility nerf, and the hat needs to be reshaped into a proper beak that is troll like it should be, along with the armor model fixed so that the 132mm weakspots are replaced with 152mm like the armor is supposed to be. 

 

this is not doing well. this is imbalanced. 

its under performing for all but the best of players. 

How do its most similar competitors stack up?   Things like 113, S conq, etc?  Or to the recently buffed nato meds like the Patton,  Cent AX, or amx 30?



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The E5 has a 46.04% recent win rate on the NA server. That's the 2nd worst at tier 10 only ahead of the Rheinmetall Panzerwagen (44th out of 45 listed tanks). There's no question that the E5 has been nerfed into one of the very worst tier 10s in the game. 

Dirty_Camel #27 Posted Mar 05 2018 - 06:57

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View PostOcean_Grown, on Mar 05 2018 - 00:50, said:

Lets face it. the T110E5 is too weak.  Im getting sick any tank honey shotting my cupola. I have had this tank for a long time. and every update it gets weaker and weaker, because of garbage players who dont know how to flank. As a main T110E5 pilot, i am getting punished for whiney players. this is enough.  I have 7 perks, and the right upgrades, and absolutely never sit still in face to face combat, or in any combat for that matter.  None of my tactics work anymore, as literally anything can pen the cupola. I can work with a weak lower plate.  The entire front of the cupola can be just shot to **** no matter what angle i have on the opposing tank.  Make the T110E5 great again! quit catering to whiney players who dont know how to pilot a tank and flank!

 

^^^^^ sold it as soon as they made it garbage. One day it was a beast, the next every t8 on the planet was penning me like a T1 heavy..... Rip E5

EmperorJuliusCaesar #28 Posted Mar 05 2018 - 07:17

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View PostMorty__, on Mar 04 2018 - 20:08, said:

View PostEmperorJuliusCaesar, on Mar 04 2018 - 22:21, said:

 

It was overpowered and over-performing, that's why it had to get nerfed.  By server stats, it's still doing well, it's just not OP anymore.  Sorry your OP tank got made fair and balanced.

 

It’s just not true that it’s still doing well:

http://www.vbaddict.net/statistics.php?tier=10&tanktype=0&nation=0&premium=0&modeid=0&team=0&battles=1000&groupby=0&fieldname=damage_dealt&server=

 

Only one heavy deals less dmg and it’s the IS-4

 

I think there’s an avg of 5-6 super conqs in every ranked battle these days and there are virtually no E5s

 

That's because a lot of lower skill people got it to have an OP tank, now that it's not OP, they don't know how to play it.



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View PostMountainLion1, on Mar 05 2018 - 10:46, said:

I hear WOT is putting in a new Tier X Russian heavy tank in a couple of months, it is a captured E5 with all the weak spots missing off it.

 

Bigger engine, 199mm main gun although the dispersion has been worsened by 0.00001. So not OP really. LOL

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View PostHurk, on Mar 05 2018 - 12:17, said:

the tumor makes it unworkable for people below 55% win rate... IE like 85% + of the player base. 

it needs a small mobility nerf, and the hat needs to be reshaped into a proper beak that is troll like it should be, along with the armor model fixed so that the 132mm weakspots are replaced with 152mm like the armor is supposed to be. 

 

this is not doing well. this is imbalanced. 

its under performing for all but the best of players. 

 

I disagree on the mobility nerf. Heck, it could get a reverse speed buff even since the T110E5 is more heavium than a pure heavy.

 

That said, I think a buff it should get is a gun depression buff. It is after all a specified requirement of the T110 proposal. The fact that it is -8 and made to have similar appearance to the M103 is laughable as the T42 project, which became the M103, was a rival project to the T110 project.

 

Also, a change would be to alter the cupola of the T110E5 to look like the ones on the E3 and E4.

 

 



spinax22 #31 Posted Mar 05 2018 - 09:07

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View PostFireplace4, on Mar 05 2018 - 02:53, said:

 

Then why try to say that I was whining about trying to make it overpowered when you admit that it would not be overpowered in the current meta (even if the cupola was invincible to gold rounds and the lower plate was invincible to standard rounds)?

 

I'm saying it would make it overpowered, but it wouldn't matter anyway because T10 gameplay is boring.

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View PostKnightOfEris, on Mar 04 2018 - 18:50, said:

I don't see why the T110E5 should be nerfed when an abomination like the Object 268-4 is allowed to enter the game; thank God there's no Russian bias on the part of the developers.

 

This may be my new sig...

 



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View PostAudie_L_Murphy, on Mar 04 2018 - 22:19, said:

13 battles and you have a tier 10...nice!

 

wow.

ROFL...lol... ha ha ha.



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View PostSpectreHD, on Mar 04 2018 - 23:39, said:

 

I disagree on the mobility nerf. Heck, it could get a reverse speed buff even since the T110E5 is more heavium than a pure heavy.

 

That said, I think a buff it should get is a gun depression buff. It is after all a specified requirement of the T110 proposal. The fact that it is -8 and made to have similar appearance to the M103 is laughable as the T42 project, which became the M103, was a rival project to the T110 project.

 

Also, a change would be to alter the cupola of the T110E5 to look like the ones on the E3 and E4.

 

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the entire E110 proposal set was -10, the e3/e4/e5 should all be -10. it was one of the specific design requirements. 

and yes, the "hat" on all of them should be the same. the issue with the E5 hat is its armor model shape: 

 

here is the e3 hat: the e4 hat:  (with the proper 152mm armor instead of the 275 of the e3)

 

then there is the crap e5 hat: with a fake 209.5 armor that its not supposed to have. the e5 should have the same hat as the e4. 

 

this is how bad the e5 hat is:  the ENTIRE FRONT OF THE GUN IS GHOST ROUND IE you cannot actually hit the tank from the side. your shell will ghost through the gun. 

 

then there is the weakspot: the armor is supposed to be 152mm, yet this piece is only 127mm. 



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The Irony and total hypocrisy of the nerf and explanation for it , compared to what happened soon after with new tanks and the IS7 , buff. Then crowning it off , the new RU line , was not  lost on the players who are now off doing things other than playing WOT .

Edited by ledhed14, Mar 05 2018 - 23:35.


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View PostMountainLion1, on Mar 04 2018 - 18:46, said:

I hear WOT is putting in a new Tier X Russian heavy tank in a couple of months, it is a captured E5 with all the weak spots missing off it.

 

Sure! We are all awaiting to see what the T10 tier nine gives birth to, lol.

Come on Baby, come on!


Edited by IVilKilU, Mar 06 2018 - 00:55.


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they are Russians why dont you think they make it [edited]? because its american! look at how many Russian tanks they have now 12 t 10s! they are Bias against Americans  and their tanks all they want is our money!! and yes its underpowered bad but they dont eant you to play nothin but thier [edited]Russians tanks! thats why i dont play as much and aftet this new patch Russian tanks will be GOD like


Edited by haraka, Mar 06 2018 - 01:50.


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if you look at the e series tanks, the basic thing you learn, is whoever actually did the armor model was a complete failure at it. they are not right, they rarely match the tank skin. 

 

the e3 has 76mm weakspots not present on the rest. 

 

the e4/e5 get the weird turret ring hull bulges that they do not need to fit the turrets, the e5 gets spaced armor around its, but the e4 doesnt for some reason.  and they are also 76mm weakspots, as well as UFP 76mm weakspots for the e4 there is also the overall failure of the armor model which should match the E3, but does not, the UFP is 210/180 instead of 305/210 of the e3. the LFP is 150/120  instead of 200/170 of the E3, a complete fabrication over the e5, but inexplicably has 180mm strong spots where the E3 had 76mm weakspots

 

the e5 gets the stupid hat, frontal hull and a 250/190 ufp, really making the e4 look stupid. However, again, with a stupid change, the e5 gets a 50mm roof front, unlike the 76mm roofs on the e3/e4 

 

the documents for the E series on clear on one thing... the frontal armor should be ~127mm at 60 degrees. so the entire tank used for all three is wrong. they are using the T57 hull, derived from the M103, and NOT the E series hull. 

 

basically, as designed, the E series tanks should be ~tier 8/9 tanks. however, their implementation in game is a disaster, because we dont have them... instead we have a bad mating of the M103 and the idea of the E series. 

 



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It's completely reasonable that they should buff E5, and E4 in fact, so they don't have these unreasonable weak spots.  They should at least be a challenge to penetrate from the front.  Currently it's no problem at all for most tanks, from what I've seen.

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The tank is weak that isn't a lie it does need to be buffed I went all the way to the M103 and I decided not to get it considering the advice that I am getting. 





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