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BigNaturals #21 Posted Mar 13 2018 - 03:50


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the buffs  dont matter when you have a tumor the size of the tank on top that everyone aims at and can pen from across the map lol

_Tsavo_ #22 Posted Mar 13 2018 - 03:51


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View Postmlinke, on Mar 12 2018 - 21:45, said:

You can do whatever you want with those tanks but ban thrm from pub matches. 


And why should this be considered?

_Midas #23 Posted Mar 13 2018 - 04:11

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Making the 95e6 even more worthless, well-played WG, well-played.

trondd #24 Posted Mar 13 2018 - 04:28


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View PostCornish_Pirate, on Mar 13 2018 - 00:23, said:


it might be a nerf but they are giving it better dpm than a Super Conq


They could give it the DPM of the badger and it still wouldnt be useful with that accuracy nerf. They need to fix the real problem, the massive commanders hatch. That plus the engine it all it really needs tbh

NaturalBourneKiller #25 Posted Mar 13 2018 - 04:30


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I like the concepts expressed in the article for the tanks.  The issue with the VK is the weak point when sidescraping and the (main) issue with the T95E6 is the giant weak tumor.  No point in having 10 degrees of gun depression if the top of the turret is an enormous weak point.  

Joel47 #26 Posted Mar 13 2018 - 04:41


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Agreed -- the E6 is like a T110E5 with less armor. In the current meta a (small) DPM buff will help, but not enough to make it a viable tier 10 if you like winning.

Dig_Baddy #27 Posted Mar 13 2018 - 05:07

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WG: The overall reason for these changes is to make the game more enjoyable, but we can’t do it without your feedback. Please tell us what you think in the forum.

make the game more enjoyable...

So far all they have done is make the game harder to play and instead of making the game fun like games are supposed to do all this game does is cause stress for players. Glad i'm leaving. Won't have to stress over the idiots of pub games and retarded crap like arty..

Want to make your game fun? Try fixing it instead of breaking it even more with more crap OP prems or retarded tanks.

You say you fix the game but all you do is break it even more.

Making pointless changes or changes that weren't needed.

If you bring one tank that's too OP. What do you do? WG: Ahh we won't nerf the 1 vehicle to balance the game again. We will just bring more OP tanks in to even it out. Hence breaking it further..

if you really do care about your players. Start listening to them instead of just being greedy for money..

LeftSock #28 Posted Mar 13 2018 - 06:30


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Whaaaat? No buff for the Obj 907? :trollface:

Dirizon #29 Posted Mar 13 2018 - 07:00


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View PostLeftSock, on Mar 13 2018 - 01:00, said:

What? No buff for the Obj 907? 


lt was the only one ever buffed to begin with

conliver #30 Posted Mar 13 2018 - 07:02


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can we get some changes to the 907 or is that already too good?


Jak_Atackka #31 Posted Mar 13 2018 - 10:06


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I really like what they're doing with the M60, having it lean into its existing advantages over the Fatton by being faster and more accurate. This should give it a useful role, and as a fan of that exact playstyle I might have to prioritize it.


I like what they're doing with the 121B - instead of making it a boring copy of the 121, it's a light-medium hybrid. Sure you could just bump up the rate of fire and call it good, but then it'd just be a 121 with 390 alpha, a 121Boring. My only concern is that this could make the WZ-132-1 irrelevant; however, tier 10 LTs are not in a good place right now, so if it outclasses the WZ it's mostly the WZ's fault.


I really need to see the T95E6 in practice - it could theoretically work as a brawler like the T110E5, but I'm not convinced. I suspect it'll fail as much in that role as it does in its current one. As it is, the E5 isn't a particularly good brawler, and the T95E6's crappy armor profile will hold it back a lot. I don't think Wargaming knows what to do with this tank, but I really can't blame them - it's hard to do anything useful with that armor profile.


I don't think the VK 72.01 K needs much in the way of buffs, because of all 5 tier 10 CW reward tanks, it's the only one that's balanced (907 is too strong, M60 is a bit weak, 121B and T95E6 are godawful). I don't mind tightening up the gun handling a bit to make it more comfortable, but giving it better gold pen AND better hitpoints on top of that? It'll just be straight up superior to the E 100. Sure, the E 100 has struggled a bit, but I don't think this is a good idea.

ray_lovejoy #32 Posted Mar 13 2018 - 10:12


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Once again they have found a way to kick people in the teeth. As a reward tank it will only be given to the top clans and the top players. It will not be given to all the others who pay to play the game and are in the lower rated clans making this game possible to exist. So i say hats off and a boot to the head!


KONGOL #33 Posted Mar 13 2018 - 11:06


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Good news!!  :)

Critical_hit_chatbanned #34 Posted Mar 13 2018 - 12:37


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You can tell the people who don't have these tanks...they are far from OP tanks, the reward tanks, 907 excluded, are the worst T10's in the game. These "buffs" make them almost playable but like said by many here, the weak points are massive!!! The VK use to be playable with speed and less players playing them so not everyone knew about the weak point but that's lessened over time and they nerf the crap out of the speed. 


907 does seem to be a slightly better 140 but not by a lot....Russian mediums are just good all round tanks. Currently, again outside of the 907, if you don't have a reward tank you are most likely a less frustrated player then someone who has one and is trying to make it work :)



Panzerwoody #35 Posted Mar 13 2018 - 13:45


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View Postbravo9er, on Mar 12 2018 - 23:44, said:


You might want to go read the developer's conference notes from last month.  They say they're going to make reward tanks available for purchase with bonds for everyone.  I'm pretty sure they're talking about these.


​Hmmmm......didn't hear about this. After the "purchase the reward" fiasco from the last campaign I have made sure to hoard all my bonds. This could make it worthwhile.


Senor_Mandingo #36 Posted Mar 13 2018 - 13:50


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I feel giving a med tank like the 121B more base view range than any tank other than a tier 10 light will make them more worthless than they are now.


I still do not understand why the t8 light tanks atm have less base view range than t8 med/heavy  prem tanks atm.  my cdc and t26e5 both have more view range than my wz132 lol


seems the small corridor maps favor heavy tanks atm.  maybe consider making new maps and/or fixing the broke maps we have now.  would be nice to see maps like original ones that were playable by all tanks not just heavy's.   


Homer_von_Wiesengrund #37 Posted Mar 13 2018 - 14:17


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View PostJak_Atackka, on Mar 13 2018 - 09:06, said:

I don't think the VK 72.01 K needs much in the way of buffs, because of all 5 tier 10 CW reward tanks, it's the only one that's balanced (907 is too strong, M60 is a bit weak, 121B and T95E6 are godawful). I don't mind tightening up the gun handling a bit to make it more comfortable, but giving it better gold pen AND better hitpoints on top of that? It'll just be straight up superior to the E 100. Sure, the E 100 has struggled a bit, but I don't think this is a good idea.


You tell me with a straight face that the E100 is worth it's salt in anything other than perhaps Himmelsdorf: because as a clan that runs only German tanks in clan wars, I can tell you right now that in anything other than pub matches where you're actually facing a player that knows what they're doing, that the E100 is outclassed in almost every way possible. So having that considered, and considering the rest of the reward tanks are (generally, the T95E6 is terrible) better than their counterparts, the buffs to a VK 72.01 make sense. There's still the Maus that outclasses it in the tech tree, all players will need to deal with it is an extra shot, if at all. This is hardly going to make the tank unbalanced. 

Nemanja89 #38 Posted Mar 13 2018 - 14:52


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Obj 907 alredy recived buff last year, it recived +10mm at front +15 at side and better roof on turret


RoysToy #39 Posted Mar 13 2018 - 15:00


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Forget about the tanks for now, bring back old maps add new ones...

alvinn #40 Posted Mar 13 2018 - 15:10

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About damn time the M60 and 121b got some love. Long needed improvements.

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