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Kenshin2kx #41 Posted Apr 10 2018 - 21:40

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View Postspud_tuber, on Apr 09 2018 - 08:13, said:

He means the lower strip of the lower plate.  At range or if the 268.4 is cresting, it can be penned.  At closer range on relatively flat ground, angle makes it also nearly impenetrable.  Of course, as fast as the 268.4 moves, and as small a target as that strip is, good luck hitting it when the conditions are right to pen.  

 

This for frontal ... now the cupolas are (relatively) less armored but fairly flat ... but that tiny LLFP (Lower Lower Front Plate) is by far the thinnest (if also the smallest) ... best bet is either track it or wait for a cresting 268-4 ... if a slope or crest is taken  at speed, the soft underbelly is momentarily exposed.  Otherwise, upon detection ... move away from frontal engagements and try for circling for a side or rear view/shot.

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Easiest way to destroy 268v4 is to drain the oil.  Engine will sieze very quickly.

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View PostFlakKnight, on Apr 10 2018 - 11:38, said:

Easiest way to destroy 268v4 is to drain the oil. Engine will sieze very quickly.

 

:D ... dammit, I knew I forgot something ... and so obvious too ... the drain the oil out of your enemies tank while they are not looking consumable ...  :great:

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View Postagtdetructor, on Apr 08 2018 - 14:31, said:

Look at this battle, I can not damage it, using GOLD does not work, I only have 325mm and its effective armor is 340mm, what do I do when I see this TD? Run away ? Pray? Why does WG do this?

 

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4285523#ruinberg-carroptus-amx_50_foch_b

 

It is a known FACT 268 V4's love green peas. So here's what you do....

 

You dig a hole (bigger than the 268 of course)

Fill the hole with ashes

Line the rim of the hole with the green peas those 268's just LOVE

 

When the 268 comes over to take a pea, Kick him in the ash hole!



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View PostWingnuttz33, on Apr 10 2018 - 11:56, said:

 

It is a known FACT 268 V4's love green peas. So here's what you do....

 

You dig a hole (bigger than the 268 of course)

Fill the hole with ashes

Line the rim of the hole with the green peas those 268's just LOVE

 

When the 268 comes over to take a pea, Kick him in the ash hole!

 

Okay plus 1 for you good sir ... made me spit up my coffee, but the chuckle was worth it.

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View PostNissan_PRO4X, on Apr 10 2018 - 11:49, said:

Best Strat 

 

Press ESC

Leave Battle

Go to Garage

Play another battle

 

Hope no 268 v4

 

4 games in a row, the enemy team had 1 more 268 v4 than us

 

i lost all 4 battles. 57% global winrate is no lie



EdibleEmpire #47 Posted Apr 11 2018 - 02:32

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It's insane that people are defending this TD. Anyone who has it is putting up stats that blow any of their other Tier 10s out of the water and somehow in the minds of these people it's not an OP tank?

 

You've been playing months to years at other tanks but you suddenly out of the blue just mastered the Object 268 V4 in 1-3 months?

 

Its weakspots are tiny for a fast moving tank. It reverses fast. It moves forward fast. It's small and low profile for what it is.

 

Even Quickybaby was smart enough to realize "hey, even though the DPM isn't great, DPM doesn't matter that much and if you look at how well players perform on it, it's totally broken when look at win rate, DPG, experience, damaged blocked, etc..."

 

 



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The problem isn't the fact it doesn't have weak spots, it is too damn maneuverable to hit them, it needs a reverse speed nerf seriously bad, like the one they gave the hellcat for similar reasons years back, it can poke up over a ridge and shoot with little risk as it can get out before you notice.

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View PostEdibleEmpire, on Apr 10 2018 - 20:32, said:

It's insane that people are defending this TD. Anyone who has it is putting up stats that blow any of their other Tier 10s out of the water and somehow in the minds of these people it's not an OP tank?

 

You've been playing months to years at other tanks but you suddenly out of the blue just mastered the Object 268 V4 in 1-3 months?

 

Its weakspots are tiny for a fast moving tank. It reverses fast. It moves forward fast. It's small and low profile for what it is.

 

Even Quickybaby was smart enough to realize "hey, even though the DPM isn't great, DPM doesn't matter that much and if you look at how well players perform on it, it's totally broken when look at win rate, DPG, experience, damaged blocked, etc..."

 

 

 

Not defending it.  Just giving tips on how to engage it since you know.  It exists.  Most tier 9s (with top gun researched) and 10s can engage it frontally if they aren't being driven by a complete potato.  

 

Tier 8s?  Good luck unless you are in a big honking TD or have a nice HE round.



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View PostHurk, on Apr 11 2018 - 10:24, said:

 

Is that suppose to make it seem that it is an answer to the current issue? Hit that tiny thing on a vehicle that mobile?

 

Lets compare it to some other Tier X TDs.

 

 

 

 


 

Out of these TDs, the T110E3 and Badger are the toughest vs the APCR of the Foch B. But then none of these TDs are remotely as fast as the 268 V4 and the E3 needs to be hull down. And they have weakspots that are far larger. Even worse for the E4 and JPE-100 the end up having more parts of their armour becoming significantly weaker in addition to their usual weakspots. At least the E4 has a turret but what does the JPE-100 have? Its big gun doesn't make up for its deficiencies at all especially when most of its super structure becomes significantly weaker.

 

Doesn't help it is only a 50-55% chance to pen the weakpoint of the 268 V4 with standard ammo. Should be at least 70% with standard ammo. Tier X standard ammo have far better chances with the weakspots on these Tier X TDs.


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This is why artillery is in the game.  Track him, keep him tracked, and call down the fire.

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View PostHurk, on Apr 10 2018 - 16:24, said:

 

This ... and the  'underbelly' as the TD crests a hill or begins a quick decent ... and depending on vehicle ... the thoughts of maneuvering for side and back shots since its traverse and reload are ... not good.

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View PostBogart1943, on Apr 09 2018 - 05:36, said:

 

This^  I kill them frontally all the time.  You just need to know where to shoot.  It really pisses them off too.  Hax.

 

Show me replay of you owning said tank.

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View PostEdibleEmpire, on Apr 11 2018 - 02:32, said:

It's insane that people are defending this TD. Anyone who has it is putting up stats that blow any of their other Tier 10s out of the water and somehow in the minds of these people it's not an OP tank?

 

You've been playing months to years at other tanks but you suddenly out of the blue just mastered the Object 268 V4 in 1-3 months?

 

Its weakspots are tiny for a fast moving tank. It reverses fast. It moves forward fast. It's small and low profile for what it is.

 

Even Quickybaby was smart enough to realize "hey, even though the DPM isn't great, DPM doesn't matter that much and if you look at how well players perform on it, it's totally broken when look at win rate, DPG, experience, damaged blocked, etc..."

 

 

 

Learn to play.  I own these tanks in my BT-7 all the time.    Just track him and flank him.  Piece of cake.  These tanks are always played by lone wolf tpe players.

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View PostReinmand, on Apr 11 2018 - 08:33, said:

 

Learn to play.  I own these tanks in my BT-7 all the time.    Just track him and flank him.  Piece of cake.  These tanks are always played by lone wolf tpe players.

 

This is a very good point ... while not an absolute rule ... I've come across a similar 'behavioral' mindset for the early adopters of this vehicle (including myself in retrospect) ... a potential temptation to start off "lone wolf" ... which is unwise in almost any vehicle in WoT ... and particularly bad for a turretless design with poor traverse speed.  As predictable, the tracks are fairly vulnerable by virtue of basic design constraint ... so two or more tanks can make it very hard for the -4 merely by attacking from different angles (ideally) with the though of further mobility paralysis in the form of tracking.  The frontal armor is tough, no doubt ... but things like being able to bring the cannon to bear outside of its gimble arc ... is significant as a defining limit when in combat.

 

That said, if this type platoons or is in a group ... it becomes MUCH harder to crack with anything but the largest doom cannons ... but then again, who doesn't at least pause in the present of such Hellbores?  







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