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Red_Ensign #21 Posted Apr 09 2018 - 19:11

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spud_tuber #22 Posted Apr 09 2018 - 19:13

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View Postconan_the_tank, on Apr 09 2018 - 12:01, said:

 

What tier-8 you driving, man?  I need to get one of those.

The lower plate of the 268 v4 is 340-350mm effective.

He means the lower strip of the lower plate.  At range or if the 268.4 is cresting, it can be penned.  At closer range on relatively flat ground, angle makes it also nearly impenetrable.  Of course, as fast as the 268.4 moves, and as small a target as that strip is, good luck hitting it when the conditions are right to pen.  



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View Postspud_tuber, on Apr 09 2018 - 13:13, said:

He means the lower strip of the lower plate.  At range or if the 268.4 is cresting, it can be penned.  At closer range on relatively flat ground, angle makes it also nearly impenetrable.  Of course, as fast as the 268.4 moves, and as small a target as that strip is, good luck hitting it when the conditions are right to pen.  

 

even with a German gun at close range its 30-70 to hit it

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awildseaking #24 Posted Apr 09 2018 - 20:12

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Hope he does something really stupid and lets you get a bit below him so UFP becomes ~320mm effective, then load gold. A non braindead V4 player will never show you LFP and Foch is one of the worst TDs for accurate shots, but it is the only frontal weakspot for you unless the former occurs.

 

You should always have gold loaded in any Foch btw. 257mm is unusuable at T10.


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It spanks the tank or it gets the hose that is how.

EdibleEmpire #26 Posted Apr 09 2018 - 22:11

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I know people are trying to give good advice here but it's total crap that your options in dealing with that tank are "flank him or get him at an angle" or "load gold and hope for decent rng as you try to snipe his cupola".

 

Yeah flanking is the way to go or getting it at an angle... but the thing is a turretless TD so by design it won't be facing you at a weird angle to start the fight (it's noob friendly in other words). The only other tank I can really think of without an easy to hit weakspot that requires careful play would be the Type 5 and it's the size of a boat, is super slow and turns slow. The Obj268V4 has none of those drawbacks. Instead they nerf DPM which doesn't really matter much in most situations. DPM has to be one of the more overrated things in World of Tanks. Obviously you don't want trash DPM but the Obj268V4 DPM is not trash, it's below average which is completely workable. You very rarely need to shoot on reload.


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Well we all know it’s probably a bit too tough frontally but it is what it is, deal with it or leave it alone.  How u deal with it is flanking and weak spots or gold rounds if none of that is feasible leave it alone and go somewhere else until that is feasible.  If I am fighting a hull down tank that I can’t own I pull back and make him come after me or I go somewhere else.  It is that simple.

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View Posthardicon, on Apr 09 2018 - 16:16, said:

Well we all know it’s probably a bit too tough frontally but it is what it is, deal with it or leave it alone. How u deal with it is flanking and weak spots or gold rounds if none of that is feasible leave it alone and go somewhere else until that is feasible. If I am fighting a hull down tank that I can’t own I pull back and make him come after me or I go somewhere else. It is that simple.

 

Exactly.  Not like you can do much to a hull down IS-7 either besides load HE and tickle his commander.

 

Just pull back and make them come to you.   If you are behind a corner a turretless TD can not shoot you without exposing his drive wheel for a second.  Let him push.



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View PostKevlar1972, on Apr 09 2018 - 20:12, said:

 

Exactly.  Not like you can do much to a hull down IS-7 either besides load HE and tickle his commander.

 

Just pull back and make them come to you.   If you are behind a corner a turretless TD can not shoot you without exposing his drive wheel for a second.  Let him push.

 

The key here is "hull down IS7" and you can pen the hull cheeks with heat. And that's if you can't shoot the lower plate which is rarely a problem.

 

Can you do either of those two things on the Obj268V4? Can you shoot the lower plate and reliably penetrate it? Nope. Can you reliably hit and pen a large weakspot on the front of the hull? Nope.



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View PostEdibleEmpire, on Apr 09 2018 - 20:32, said:

 

The key here is "hull down IS7" and you can pen the hull cheeks with heat. And that's if you can't shoot the lower plate which is rarely a problem.

 

Can you do either of those two things on the Obj268V4? Can you shoot the lower plate and reliably penetrate it? Nope. Can you reliably hit and pen a large weakspot on the front of the hull? Nope.

 

Most tier 10s can easily pen the cupola of the v4.  Most of my tier 9s have no problem.  So it can't even go hull down at medium to short range.  Those same tanks have never penned an IS7 even on the side of his turret!



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View PostKevlar1972, on Apr 09 2018 - 19:42, said:

 

Most tier 10s can easily pen the cupola of the v4.  Most of my tier 9s have no problem.  So it can't even go hull down at medium to short range.  Those same tanks have never penned an IS7 even on the side of his turret!

I've never even been able to hit the cupola on the V4.  It's not like they sit still and let you aim..



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The best tactic I have found with this tank ... is either very large caliber HE at distance ... or a combination of tracking/immobilization for perpetual damage or  side and rear shots (and depending on rate of fire) 

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View Postagtdetructor, on Apr 08 2018 - 19:31, said:

Look at this battle, I can not damage it, using GOLD does not work, I only have 325mm and its effective armor is 340mm, what do I do when I see this TD? Run away ? Pray? Why does WG do this?

 

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4285523#ruinberg-carroptus-amx_50_foch_b

 

It puts the lotion on it's skin, or it gets the hose again.



agtdetructor #34 Posted Apr 10 2018 - 06:14

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View Post24_inch_pythons, on Apr 08 2018 - 21:25, said:

Why don't you hit its weakspot?

 

View PostBogart1943, on Apr 09 2018 - 05:36, said:

 

This^  I kill them frontally all the time.  You just need to know where to shoot.  It really pisses them off too.  Hax.

https://tanks.gg/tank/obj-268-4/model



agtdetructor #35 Posted Apr 10 2018 - 06:18

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View Postawildseaking, on Apr 09 2018 - 20:12, said:

Hope he does something really stupid and lets you get a bit below him so UFP becomes ~320mm effective, then load gold. A non braindead V4 player will never show you LFP and Foch is one of the worst TDs for accurate shots, but it is the only frontal weakspot for you unless the former occurs.

 

You should always have gold loaded in any Foch btw. 257mm is unusuable at T10.

 

 

I suffer a lot when I play in X-tier battles, I really think it's a decent TD in an average battle tier X-VIII I can cause 4k damage, but it's very obsolete compared to other TD



Nissan_PRO4X #36 Posted Apr 10 2018 - 11:49

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Best Strat 

 

Press ESC

Leave Battle

Go to Garage

Play another battle

 

Hope no 268 v4



minneerminneer #37 Posted Apr 10 2018 - 15:19

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This is why I love wot I can play my 268 4 and no one knows the 200mm frontal weakspot but I'm just going to keep that to myself so I can keep ROFL stomping in it :)

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View Postminneerminneer, on Apr 10 2018 - 15:19, said:

This is why I love wot I can play my 268 4 and no one knows the 200mm frontal weakspot but I'm just going to keep that to myself so I can keep ROFL stomping in it :)

 

 

If you can see the replay you will notice that I shot 3 times at the weak point but because the inclination is automatic rebound, that weak point is only enjoyed by tall tanks with good gun depression, for my Foch B the tank does not have any weak points frontally

 

https://tanks.gg/tank/obj-268-4/model?vm=live  The purple can not be penetrated, it's the same mechanic that makes your shots bounce off a 257 obj and the Strv


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IDK, I got tired of them so I started shooting the little do-hickey thats on top ...( bar type thing ) and watched the HP's falling off.

 

felt good, gonna do it some more.



gideon_an #40 Posted Apr 10 2018 - 21:26

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Flip him on his back and watch him die.







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