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Ratnikk #1 Posted Apr 11 2018 - 09:08

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Do i even need to explain myself for this? Im sure you guys at WG have stats on the performance of vehicles. Im sure you can see how pretty much anyone can use this ''TD'', if we can even call it a TD, and become a super duper ultra delux unicum. I know your biggest fanbase is Russian but come on. Is everyone gonna have to grind these new soviet tanks just to have fun in this game?

Scorpiany #2 Posted Apr 11 2018 - 09:11

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There's simply no excuse for the Obj. 268 v4 to be as powerful as it is. All of the server stats show it outperforming all other vehicles at Tier 10, in all of the various measurable metrics. It should have been nerfed during the supertest; yet somehow here it is in live matches ruining battles.

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View PostScorpiany, on Apr 11 2018 - 16:11, said:

There's simply no excuse for the Obj. 268 v4 to be as powerful as it is. All of the server stats show it outperforming all other vehicles at Tier 10, in all of the various measurable metrics. It should have been nerfed during the supertest; yet somehow here it is in live matches ruining battles.

 

Yeah, by all accounts, it shouldn't make it past supertest at its current state unless they changed something in supertesting like say allowing the use of premium ammo. This is of course stupid since it will mess up balance since apart from the last year or so, supertesters were told not to use premium ammo and most of the vehicles in the game are not balanced with premium ammo in the equation. So suddenly having this vehicle which appear to be balanced with everyone firing premium ammo in this game has caused it to perform way to well.

 

Also goes to show how useless public test is.

 

Imagine if my JPE-100 moved almost as good or have frontal armour as resistant as the 264 v4. The 268 v4 has too much good and little bad. And what bad it has is not even severe enough to be considered a disadvantage.



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this vehicle advantage is only speed (forward and backward)

D3aZnUtZ #5 Posted Apr 11 2018 - 10:22

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I am fairly new to the game, But my dad has played since it came out to open beta, I am sure they will nerf it at some point, Look at other release tanks, the Waffen T10,

or the 110E5 when it came out \, all cried over them, and eventually they got nerfed, Or removed.



Viper69 #6 Posted Apr 11 2018 - 10:55

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View PostHog_pz, on Apr 11 2018 - 04:08, said:

this vehicle advantage is only speed (forward and backward)

 

really?

General_Lee_Miserable #7 Posted Apr 11 2018 - 12:50

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View PostScorpiany, on Apr 11 2018 - 09:11, said:

There's simply no excuse for the Obj. 268 v4 to be as powerful as it is. All of the server stats show it outperforming all other vehicles at Tier 10, in all of the various measurable metrics. It should have been nerfed during the supertest; yet somehow here it is in live matches ruining battles.

 

This is incorrect. The recent statistics show the 907 outperforming the V4, yet that one is overlooked because it's an OP CW reward tank. God forbid us non elite clan plebeians have something that can compete with that at T10. 

_Promote_Synergy_ #8 Posted Apr 11 2018 - 13:16

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View PostHog_pz, on Apr 11 2018 - 09:08, said:

this vehicle advantage is only speed (forward and backward)

 

It has stupid armor. Weighs a ton and can ram+shotgun mediums almost one shotting them. Pretty freaking OP.

TwixOps #9 Posted Apr 11 2018 - 13:34

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View PostViper69, on Apr 11 2018 - 05:55, said:

 

really?

Well... yeah.   Don't get me wrong, the v4 is overpowered, incredibly so, but it is the vehicles speed and maneuverability that makes it so.  Take away the [edited]speed and what do you have? A reasonably well armored TD with a lackluster gun.  Make it actually handle like a 70 ton tank and it would be balanced.  



CapPhrases #10 Posted Apr 11 2018 - 13:41

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"a nerf unlikely but a buff probable" -WG 2018

Scorpiany #11 Posted Apr 11 2018 - 14:00

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View PostGeneral_Lee_Miserable, on Apr 11 2018 - 03:50, said:

 

This is incorrect. The recent statistics show the 907 outperforming the V4, yet that one is overlooked because it's an OP CW reward tank. God forbid us non elite clan plebeians have something that can compete with that at T10. 

 

 

Obj. 907 only outperforms it because it's a CW reward tank; which generally only good players will receive. The Obj. 268 v4 is a tank that anyone can get, and yet it's still winning 57% of its battles.



Da_Craw #12 Posted Apr 11 2018 - 14:07

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View PostGeneral_Lee_Miserable, on Apr 11 2018 - 05:50, said:

 

This is incorrect. The recent statistics show the 907 outperforming the V4, yet that one is overlooked because it's an OP CW reward tank. God forbid us non elite clan plebeians have something that can compete with that at T10. 

 

You are using the wrong metric.  Use the tank curves from Wot-News.  The 907 is merely good.  The 268-4 is insane.

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View PostDa_Craw, on Apr 11 2018 - 14:07, said:

 

You are using the wrong metric.  Use the tank curves from Wot-News.  The 907 is merely good.  The 268-4 is insane.

 

I use vbaddict. 

General_Lee_Miserable #14 Posted Apr 11 2018 - 15:11

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View PostScorpiany, on Apr 11 2018 - 14:00, said:

 

 

Obj. 907 only outperforms it because it's a CW reward tank; which generally only good players will receive. The Obj. 268 v4 is a tank that anyone can get, and yet it's still winning 57% of its battles.

 

I see 47%ers running around in reward tanks now. It's not just the "elite" players getting these, as least not in recent history. 



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Well that tank its for sure op, like the Defender and its insane low plate armor...

Da_Craw #16 Posted Apr 12 2018 - 19:41

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View PostGeneral_Lee_Miserable, on Apr 11 2018 - 08:10, said:

 

I use vbaddict. 

 

The problem with vbaddict is that it only gives you the overall numbers.  They are useful for a lot of things, but in assessing performace of a tank, the tank curves that show how the WR of the tank compares to the WR of the player gives a more thorough picture, especially for rarely played tanks like reward tanks.

Ich_bin_Hass #17 Posted Apr 12 2018 - 23:07

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View PostViper69, on Apr 11 2018 - 03:55, said:

 

really?

 

Yeah my thought too !

Edited by Ich_bin_Hass, Apr 12 2018 - 23:11.


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View PostTwixOps, on Apr 11 2018 - 06:34, said:

Well... yeah.   Don't get me wrong, the v4 is overpowered, incredibly so, but it is the vehicles speed and maneuverability that makes it so.  Take away the [edited]speed and what do you have? A reasonably well armored TD with a lackluster gun.  Make it actually handle like a 70 ton tank and it would be balanced.  

 

Agreed. It's as fast as some mediums. Don't even try to get close as a heavy tank as it backs up faster than most heavies moves forward.

Edited by Ich_bin_Hass, Apr 12 2018 - 23:10.


Machisman #19 Posted Apr 16 2018 - 19:47

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This is plain and simple tactics used by wargaming. Release a new OP tank and every other player will login to research the tank line. Leave the tank OP for sometime and nerf the hell out of it. All this just to make sure ppl play this game. Obviously every nerf or buff happens when there is a new patch. Nerf one tank and buff another tank to make it OP and the cycle continues.

 

Ex: WTFE100, T110E5, Grille and now Obj 268V4... more tanks will be added soon to this category.

 

7 years of WOT and things have been getting better. Lets see how they progress. 


Edited by Machisman, Apr 16 2018 - 19:48.


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View PostMachisman, on Apr 16 2018 - 08:47, said:

This is plain and simple tactics used by wargaming. Release a new OP tank and every other player will login to research the tank line. Leave the tank OP for sometime and nerf the hell out of it. All this just to make sure ppl play this game. Obviously every nerf or buff happens when there is a new patch. Nerf one tank and buff another tank to make it OP and the cycle continues.

 

Ex: WTFE100, T110E5, Grille and now Obj 268V4... more tanks will be added soon to this category.

 

7 years of WOT and things have been getting better. Lets see how they progress. 

 

This ... its a proven model for WG with an arguable history of past "OP" tanks as historical confirmation ... but perhaps even more importantly, with this model, its fairly easy to see the profit potential for a perpetual cycling of "OP" tank offerings for as long as the game continues.  






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