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Poll: This Russian MONSTER the 268 4 needs serious down grading. (51 members have cast votes)

Too FREAKING FAST and MANEUVERABLE to hit so hard.

  1. Do to it, what you did to the ELC bis. Make it a SLUG and degrade it's gun. (34 votes [66.67%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 66.67%

  2. Naw let it continue to RAMPAGE across WoT's and cause people to stop paying to get RAPED ! (17 votes [33.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

Reduce the reload time and give more than just one TINY place on the front to pen this MONSTER ?

  1. Naw leave then only place to pen one TINY spot on the top that's 250mm thick. (18 votes [35.29%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 35.29%

  2. Please give people a chance to pen this MONSTER ! (33 votes [64.71%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 64.71%

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Ich_bin_Hass #21 Posted Apr 11 2018 - 17:55

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View PostKingofDragons, on Apr 11 2018 - 10:48, said:

IF it's so OP why is it in 57th place at 46.57 % survival rate while the M56 scorpion is in 4th place at 54.57%..

 

If it's so OP why is it in 14th place for damage dealt while the FV4005 is first or 8th at 1.297 kills per game.... 21 st in damage dealt / damage received ...

 

You are spreading fake news on how good this TD is..

 

 

 

Seems you're in the minority in your opinion.

Edited by Ich_bin_Hass, Apr 11 2018 - 17:56.


TristanXD6 #22 Posted Apr 11 2018 - 18:02

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View PostIch_bin_Hass, on Apr 11 2018 - 07:47, said:

 

It reloads so fast. Yes it hit as hard as the JPZ E-100

 

It doesn't hit as hard as a Jagd E-100. The Obj 268 v4 has way lower alpha with it's 152mm than the Jagd E-100's 17cm gun.

 

If you want to write criticism, please be accurate with your description.


Edited by TristanXD6, Apr 12 2018 - 04:12.


Ich_bin_Hass #23 Posted Apr 11 2018 - 18:03

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View PostTwixOps, on Apr 11 2018 - 10:47, said:

 

 

650 =/= 1050

 

 

It gets off 3.5 rpm = 2275   JPZ E 100 2.3 = 2415 a diff of 140. WOW what a big difference !



TwixOps #24 Posted Apr 11 2018 - 18:05

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View PostIch_bin_Hass, on Apr 11 2018 - 13:03, said:

 

 

It gets off 3.5 rpm = 2275   JPZ E 100 2.3 = 2415 a diff of 140. WOW what a big difference !

 

Yeah, and a T-62 gets 2912.  Does that mean that a T-62 hits significantly harder than a Jadgpanzer?

Ich_bin_Hass #25 Posted Apr 11 2018 - 18:05

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View PostTristanXD6, on Apr 11 2018 - 11:02, said:

 

It doesn't hit as hard as a Jagd E-100. The Obj 268 v4 has way lower alpha with it's 152mm then the Jagd E-100's 17cm gun.

 

If you want to write criticism, please be accurate with your description.

 

It gets off 3.5 rpm = 2275   JPZ E 100 2.3 = 2415 a diff of 140. WOW what a big difference !

Ich_bin_Hass #26 Posted Apr 11 2018 - 18:06

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View PostTwixOps, on Apr 11 2018 - 11:05, said:

 

Yeah, and a T-62 gets 2912.  Does that mean that a T-62 hits significantly harder than a Jadgpanzer?

 

Apples and oranges. We're talking about the 268 4 and TD's not mediums. Does the T-62A have the armor the 268 4 has ? No. I can pen a T-62A from the front easily.

Edited by Ich_bin_Hass, Apr 11 2018 - 18:10.


TwixOps #27 Posted Apr 11 2018 - 18:08

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View PostIch_bin_Hass, on Apr 11 2018 - 13:06, said:

 

Apples and oranges. We're talking about the 268 4 not mediums.

 

But according to you, the T-62 hits harder than a Jadgpanzer.  A medium that hits harder than a TD is clearly Op so we should be talking about it.  

Animul #28 Posted Apr 11 2018 - 18:10

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Its really not that OP, just takes a couple of brain cells to handle it.

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View PostIch_bin_Hass, on Apr 11 2018 - 09:05, said:

 

It gets off 3.5 rpm = 2275   JPZ E 100 2.3 = 2415 a diff of 140. WOW what a big difference !

 

The sarcasm isn't indearing (really, it's pathetic), and you're missing the point that many people are making.

 

When you say a gun 'hits hard', that specifically refers to how hard it hits with a single shot. The Jagd E-100 has a huge amount of alpha with a low ROF. The Obj 268 v4 has much lower alpha, but has a better ROF.

 

The issue with the Obj 268 v4 isn't the gun. It's the combination of incredible armor that has almost no usable weakspots and great mobility.

 

On a different note, if you want people to take you seriously, stop acting like a child, and actually post something that's brings value here.

 

P.S. It really says something about you that you choose to use the exact same response to two different players :teethhappy:


Edited by TristanXD6, Apr 12 2018 - 04:11.


raymee101 #30 Posted Apr 11 2018 - 18:11

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its not that its op in pub matches cause dealing with one is not that bad in such a situation.  The problem is in clan matches when you can just flood 6 or 7 down a flank and demolish normal players that dont use premium ammo.  With premium ammo you can pen its lower area fairly easy and the t bar up top is easy pen with regular rounds if you aim.  In a rush mode they are nasty though.  I gotta thank Bam for giving me some pointers on fighting those recently, as right after i took out 2 of them at same time with my 907 to get my last medium mission upgraded with honors.  I encourage others to look at how the higher skilled players are handling these "op" tanks and try to follow their lead and learn from their skill.

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View PostIch_bin_Hass, on Apr 11 2018 - 15:26, said:

Are you tired of a Russian MONSTROSITY that moves like a medium tank both forward and backwards. Hit's like a Jpz E-100. Reloads faster than any other TD and is almost impervious from the front except for a TINY part atop the OP'd armored front that's still 250mm thick. Yes I'm talking about the 268 4. The brand new Russian OP'd TERROR RAMPAGING through WoT's !

 

and another forum crybaby posting about an OP tank that according to all stats is NOT OP.    :popcorn:

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View PostKingofDragons, on Apr 11 2018 - 10:48, said:

IF it's so OP why is it in 57th place at 46.57 % survival rate while the M56 scorpion is in 4th place at 54.57%..

 

If it's so OP why is it in 14th place for damage dealt while the FV4005 is first or 8th at 1.297 kills per game.... 21 st in damage dealt / damage received ...

 

You are spreading fake news on how good this TD is..

 

 

 

Winrate my dude, it's the highest of any tier 10 TD by over 7%. That gap is HUGE. It also has the highest winrate of any tech tree tier 10, almost 3% higher than the 430U, which is also OP. 

 

The tank's survival rate is low because they're at the front of the fight. If the FV4005 was played as aggressively as the 268-4, it would have a 5% survival rate. But surviving doesn't matter because they tank the damage for their superheavies, and win games instead of redlining.

 

You handpicked like 2 stats it doesn't excel in, as opposed to looking at the stat that matters. Having a 268-4 on your team gives you a 7% higher chance to win.



Cognitive_Dissonance #33 Posted Apr 11 2018 - 18:15

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View PostIch_bin_Hass, on Apr 11 2018 - 11:05, said:

 

It gets off 3.5 rpm = 2275   JPZ E 100 2.3 = 2415 a diff of 140. WOW what a big difference !

 

These are theoretical numbers, with no limit imposed by RNG, or adversaries that go hull down or angle.

 

There is a big difference between theoretical RPM and damage, as compared to a live game where RNG, vehicle mechanics, team dynamics, tier etc all come into play.



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View Postdominator_98, on Apr 11 2018 - 11:14, said:

 

Winrate my dude, it's the highest of any tier 10 TD by over 7%. That gap is HUGE. It also has the highest winrate of any tech tree tier 10, almost 3% higher than the 430U, which is also OP. 

 

The tank's survival rate is low because they're at the front of the fight. If the FV4005 was played as aggressively as the 268-4, it would have a 5% survival rate. But surviving doesn't matter because they tank the damage for their superheavies, and win games instead of redlining.

 

You handpicked like 2 stats it doesn't excel in, as opposed to looking at the stat that matters. Having a 268-4 on your team gives you a 7% higher chance to win.

 

If I am not mistaken, did not the Defender (however briefly) buck the trends initially, but then subside? Or am I remembering this wrong?

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View PostBolted_On, on Apr 11 2018 - 11:13, said:

 

and another forum crybaby posting about an OP tank that according to all stats is NOT OP.    :popcorn:

 

Except according to several stats, it's pretty darn OP.

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View PostBolted_On, on Apr 11 2018 - 13:13, said:

 

and another forum crybaby posting about an OP tank that according to all stats is NOT OP.    :popcorn:

 

 

It kinda is though.  



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View PostCognitive_Dissonance, on Apr 11 2018 - 11:16, said:

 

If I am not mistaken, did not the Defender (however briefly) buck the trends initially, but then subside? Or am I remembering this wrong?

 

252U is still up high on WR, and that stat is from the last 30 days, so the first month of hype and people not knowing how to kill it is already out of the system. It may come down from 57%, but I doubt it will go below 54% until it gets nerfed.

 

Edit: When was the last time a tech tree tank spiked in winrate as hard as the 268-4?


Edited by dominator_98, Apr 11 2018 - 18:24.


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View PostCognitive_Dissonance, on Apr 11 2018 - 09:16, said:

 

If I am not mistaken, did not the Defender (however briefly) buck the trends initially, but then subside? Or am I remembering this wrong?

 

That's not a good example to use, seeing how the Defender is still an overpowered tank when compared to the competition.

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View PostAnimul, on Apr 11 2018 - 11:10, said:

Its really not that OP, just takes a couple of brain cells to handle it.

 

You got one right ? LOL Always the insults from those that have this OP'd MONSTER.

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Frankly, there's no point to arguing whether or not the tank is OP, the stats say it is, and those who say it isn't and argue  it's WR stat is meaningless are the same types who say the E25 and Defender are balanced. They can't be reasoned with.




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