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McChaffee #41 Posted Apr 16 2018 - 16:21

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View PostBattlecryGWJ, on Apr 16 2018 - 15:18, said:

 

I have a fond memories of spamming HE at Mauses from my M6.

 

Things were simple back then.

24cups #42 Posted Apr 16 2018 - 16:21

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View Post__WarChild__, on Apr 16 2018 - 10:19, said:

 

1) I earned that camo - literally LOSING my way up the rung from Levels 13-17.  But, luckily for me, in Ranked Battles you get rewarded for being the #1 Loser :great:

 

2) One day I might send you my masters thesis.

Sorry to say but it's the internet.  Everyone can claim to have a Master's degree. 



__WarChild__ #43 Posted Apr 16 2018 - 16:24

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View Post24cups, on Apr 16 2018 - 09:21, said:

Sorry to say but it's the internet.  Everyone can claim to have a Master's degree. 

 

True, but I have a PhD.  So where's your internet on that, huh!  

 

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LintinPocket #44 Posted Apr 16 2018 - 16:24

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View PostQUACK_PoT, on Apr 16 2018 - 08:53, said:

Wargaming is a business. They really want as many people as possible to be successful or at least happy playing this game because that equals more money in their pockets. To think that they came up with a programmed way to mess with us would really be counter productive to running this business.

 

Happy doesn't exactly describe the philosophy of the FTP marketing strategy. Challenged with 50 to 51% underachieving stimulates the "need" to be better. Since that requires work it preys on the lazy or unskilled by the purchase system to get better. It also has a tier system, extra items ( Prem tanks) that are marketed in a way you think its the key to being that War God without working at it. Basically money is generated because of lazy no work ethic buying skill. Problem is there are no tanks or items that will actually make you better to any extent so it becomes a perpetual cycle hence cash flow. Been written about hundreds of times as the FTP money wagon concept. So the idea that a system is programed isnt far fetched but with skill you overcome it or dont.

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Genada #45 Posted Apr 16 2018 - 16:27

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I do not know if it is rigged or not but there is matches are pretty much auto win or auto loss matches due to poor match making.

 

I think that's the real issue that leads to people thinking the game is rigged, the horrible match making. Stacking teams so that one team stands next to no chance and when that happens to people in streaks it leads people to think the game is rigged.



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you need to learn what rigging is before you post

__WarChild__ #47 Posted Apr 16 2018 - 16:33

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View PostSwedishEOD, on Apr 16 2018 - 09:08, said:

 

Yes we get the same random MM as anyone else , or do you really think the MM is out to get you?

Over enough number of battles you and I will have had the same percentage of "good" and "bad" teams....

So what is your definition of "random" since I appear to have the "wrong" idea about it...

 

I would like to side bar here that I didn't intend to sound like I was saying you personally were "wrong."  I was really making a general statement that everyone talks as though it is all exactly the same, and that is statistically impossible.  I don't believe there's a conspiracy against me or anything of the sort.  I just don't understand why my streaks are losing streaks and I can count on 3 fingers the times I've had 5+ win streaks (insert comments about my skills here, etc. etc.)

 

 

NOTEWORTHY:  I have the ultimate respect for the G Clan and all its members.  It is the only superior clan where I've yet to come across at least 1 bad apple.  I don't know how you guys can cram all that skill into one person, but it is truly impressive to watch on the battlefield.  Kudos to you, Sir!



Dead_Zombie #48 Posted Apr 16 2018 - 16:35

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WG has said that they adjust your tank(s) based on whether u have been high,mid or low tier to often (doesn't matter if u won or loss though), and with that, it DOES take out the random in random battles., anybody that can't comprehend that needs to go back to school. only way to beat that, is to play tier 10

24cups #49 Posted Apr 16 2018 - 16:36

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View Post__WarChild__, on Apr 16 2018 - 10:24, said:

 

True, but I have a PhD.  So where's your internet on that, huh!  

 

:girl:

Again anyone can claim to have one.  I'm not saying you don't but saying you do is just your word and on these forums bs is king.



__WarChild__ #50 Posted Apr 16 2018 - 16:37

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View Post24cups, on Apr 16 2018 - 09:36, said:

Again anyone can claim to have one.  I'm not saying you don't but saying you do is just your word and on these forums bs is king.

 

Well, in the interest of fairness, my PhD is in Linguistics and has nothing to do with math. Nor did my masters thesis, but I thought it sounded like a good response :trollface:

24cups #51 Posted Apr 16 2018 - 16:39

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View Post__WarChild__, on Apr 16 2018 - 10:37, said:

 

Well, in the interest of fairness, my PhD is in Linguistics and has nothing to do with math. Nor did my masters thesis, but I thought it sounded like a good response :trollface:

Now that did get a laugh out of me. 



SwedishEOD #52 Posted Apr 16 2018 - 16:40

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View PostKnuckle_Dragin_Drooler, on Apr 16 2018 - 16:35, said:

WG has said that they adjust your tank(s) based on whether u have been high,mid or low tier to often (doesn't matter if u won or loss though), and with that, it DOES take out the random in random battles., anybody that can't comprehend that needs to go back to school. only way to beat that, is to play tier 10

 

So they adjust it differently for each of us?

If they adjust it equally for everyone it doesn't matter since we all still get the same MM.

Or is this just another of those ideas that Unicums get the easy mode MM and is always top tier and all us others get shafted?

As long as MM is doing the same thing for all of us the only thing different is your own personal performance , and yes I know that is a topic many players on these forums tend to shy away from.... 



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View Post__WarChild__, on Apr 16 2018 - 07:37, said:

 

Well, in the interest of fairness, my PhD is in Linguistics......

 

You have a PhD in pasta?  :trollface:



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View PostNunya_000, on Apr 16 2018 - 09:42, said:

 

You have a PhD in pasta?  :trollface:

 

Man, I wish I did.  One, I love to eat Italian.  Two, master chefs/restaurant owners make 5 times what I do.  Should have gone to culinary school and made my Momma proud!  :popcorn:

dunniteowl #55 Posted Apr 16 2018 - 16:45

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Second, Wg introduced 3/5/7-style matchmaker templating...and it, combined with the tier shifting started forcing everyone down to mid & bottom tier...

 

So tell me, then:  If everyone is forced down into the mid and bottom tiers in this scenario -- just who is it that's got those top tier spots?  Please don't tell me it's aliens.  I think we deserve to have irrefutable proof that those top tier slots are being botted in these cases (except when you are personally top tier then the other five units are botted, not you) where everyone is being forced down.

 

End the oppression!

 

GL, HF & HSYBF



Nunya_000 #56 Posted Apr 16 2018 - 16:49

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View Post__WarChild__, on Apr 16 2018 - 07:33, said:

 

I just don't understand why my streaks are losing streaks and I can count on 3 fingers the times I've had 5+ win streaks (insert comments about my skills here, etc. etc.)

 

People do not get as frustrated when they are winning so they do not notice winning streaks as often.  The other weekend I was able to play about 15 battles.  After about the first 10, I realized that I did not remember losing a battle.  Looked at my stats and saw I was on a 10-0 streak that I was not even aware of.  Lost the next battle.



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View PostKnuckle_Dragin_Drooler, on Apr 16 2018 - 09:35, said:

 anybody that can't comprehend that needs to go back to school. only way to beat that, is to play tier 10

 

Go figure the only way to beat that is play tanks that break your wallet.....just throwing that out there :P



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Went 7 for 10 Friday and 15 of 19 Saturday.  So much for x5 excuse. Even Sunday's 17 of 34 was acceptable.

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View Post__WarChild__, on Apr 16 2018 - 09:33, said:

I just don't understand why my streaks are losing streaks and I can count on 3 fingers the times I've had 5+ win streaks

 

That's actually fairly simple to understand.  When you're losing its easy to go on tilt, you keep chasing a win, but you're making bad decisions while doing it.  When you get a winning streak going, its also easy to fall into the feeling that you're invincible so you do things you shouldn't whether its taking bade trades in damage or not altering your strategy to better suit what your team is doing.

 

Sure, these streaks aren't entirely up to you as the teams have to have a certain level of fail or even simple mediocrity to them to not make up for the bad decisions made by a single player, but that player still has influence over the outcome.  Regardless, what I've noticed in watching people play is that this game is about decision making.  Better players tend to consistently make better decisions (positioning, trades, when to rush a flank, when to call it a night, etc), while average players tend to be more inconsistent (potentially making decisions that can be advantageous *if* their team takes advantage).



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View PostMacDaddyMatty, on Apr 16 2018 - 09:20, said:

 

 

If everyone is bottom tier, who is getting the mid and top tier spots?

Spoiler

 

 

 

View Postdunniteowl, on Apr 16 2018 - 10:45, said:

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Second, Wg introduced 3/5/7-style matchmaker templating...and it, combined with the tier shifting started forcing everyone down to mid & bottom tier...

 

So tell me, then:  If everyone is forced down into the mid and bottom tiers in this scenario -- just who is it that's got those top tier spots?  Please don't tell me it's aliens.  I think we deserve to have irrefutable proof that those top tier slots are being botted in these cases (except when you are personally top tier then the other five units are botted, not you) where everyone is being forced down.

 

End the oppression!

 

GL, HF & HSYBF

 

wow!

We think alike.

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